Comments on: Spam and Soccer http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:00:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maria http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158975 Maria Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:53:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158975 Kieran's thoughts on our 300+ overnight fans prompted me to undertake some extra-credit reading and finally start to get my head around link-spam. Anyone who's interested in this topic could do far worse than read a Stanford paper that appears to have been written with a senior Google person, setting out a <a href="http://airweb.cse.lehigh.edu/2005/gyongyi.pdf" rel="nofollow">taxonomy of web spam</a>. And also this one from Wellesley on <a href="http://cs.wellesley.edu/~pmetaxas/TR28-2004/spamPropTrust.pdf" rel="nofollow">how web spammers use social trust networks</a> in the arms race against search engines. Fascinating stuff. Kieran’s thoughts on our 300+ overnight fans prompted me to undertake some extra-credit reading and finally start to get my head around link-spam.

Anyone who’s interested in this topic could do far worse than read a Stanford paper that appears to have been written with a senior Google person, setting out a taxonomy of web spam. And also this one from Wellesley on how web spammers use social trust networks in the arms race against search engines. Fascinating stuff.

]]> By: pp http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158842 pp Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:30:21 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158842 ray, I am referring to them not being caught offisides. Your're right to the extent that uncontrolled play results in offsides etc. When playing a strong opponent you need to take some risks to force them into positioning errors The US attack needs to stretch the field by leading with through passes and letting their strikers use their speed. The US also didn't record a shot on goal in the game. ray,
I am referring to them not being caught offisides. Your’re right to the extent that uncontrolled play results in offsides etc. When playing a strong opponent you need to take some risks to force them into positioning errors The US attack needs to stretch the field by leading with through passes and letting their strikers use their speed. The US also didn’t record a shot on goal in the game.

]]> By: Ray http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158830 Ray Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:05:01 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158830 What? (I'm guessing you mean that they weren't caught offside. But that's a pretty bad indicator of whether you're attacking well or not, since poor attackers get caught offside all the time) What?

(I’m guessing you mean that they weren’t caught offside. But that’s a pretty bad indicator of whether you’re attacking well or not, since poor attackers get caught offside all the time)

]]> By: pp http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158817 pp Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:01:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158817 Well the US just got their tuckuses handed to them. Biggest problem is that they did not take a single offsides. No offsides means no offense. No offense means no second round. Well the US just got their tuckuses handed to them. Biggest problem is that they did not take a single offsides. No offsides means no offense. No offense means no second round.

]]> By: Kieran Healy http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158815 Kieran Healy Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:29:06 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158815 Further math-related comments will result in banning. Also, wolfson is banned. Further math-related comments will result in banning. Also, wolfson is banned.

]]> By: ben wolfson http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158814 ben wolfson Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:16:59 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158814 <em>the slightly more complex (n∗2)-(n-1)</em> So ... n+1? That actually seems simpler. the slightly more complex (n∗2)-(n-1)

So … n+1? That actually seems simpler.

]]> By: Brian http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158809 Brian Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:54:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158809 The Australia win was wonderful. Between supporting Australia and Liverpool, I've had a few stressful wins recently. It has all been worth the decade it has taken of my life I think. The Australia win was wonderful. Between supporting Australia and Liverpool, I’ve had a few stressful wins recently. It has all been worth the decade it has taken of my life I think.

]]> By: Kieran Healy http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158807 Kieran Healy Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:31:06 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158807 <i>I’m an ex-physicist. Is there some use of ∗ that I didn’t get the memo on?</i> Man, one tiny math joke and everyone's on your case. I’m an ex-physicist. Is there some use of ∗ that I didn’t get the memo on?

Man, one tiny math joke and everyone’s on your case.

]]> By: Jamie http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158806 Jamie Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:01:48 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158806 Wow, congratulations to the Socceroos! Trailing Japan 1-0 at minute 40 of the second half, Australia explodes in the final minutes to win 3-1. Wow, congratulations to the Socceroos! Trailing Japan 1-0 at minute 40 of the second half, Australia explodes in the final minutes to win 3-1.

]]> By: Rob G http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158804 Rob G Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:07:51 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158804 Yes Chris, England would approach Argentina just as they did Paraguay. C'est a rire. I'm an ex-physicist. Is there some use of ∗ that I didn't get the memo on? Yes Chris, England would approach Argentina just as they did Paraguay. C’est a rire.

I’m an ex-physicist. Is there some use of ∗ that I didn’t get the memo on?

]]> By: Anita Hendersen http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158795 Anita Hendersen Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:39:54 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158795 "The social value added by Google (including Blogspot) is declining fast and could easily become negative." You got that right. Google provides free blogs (via Blogspot) and then allows blog owners to share in the revenue from its AdSense program. The results: tens of thousands of useless blogs created in the hopes of generating a few pennies. It's a blight on the web. “The social value added by Google (including Blogspot) is declining fast and could easily become negative.” You got that right. Google provides free blogs (via Blogspot) and then allows blog owners to share in the revenue from its AdSense program. The results: tens of thousands of useless blogs created in the hopes of generating a few pennies. It’s a blight on the web.

]]> By: Kieran Healy http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158794 Kieran Healy Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:28:50 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158794 <em>So if n=0, there’s 1 functioning leg? No, because like I said the general case is just n∗2. Though at the rate they're going, England may indeed end up in some odd territory.</em> So if n=0, there’s 1 functioning leg?

No, because like I said the general case is just n∗2. Though at the rate they’re going, England may indeed end up in some odd territory.

]]> By: Ray http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158787 Ray Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:42:56 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158787 If Walcott didn't go on for Owen against Paraguay, he's unlikely ever to go on. If Walcott didn’t go on for Owen against Paraguay, he’s unlikely ever to go on.

]]> By: Tim Worstall http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158784 Tim Worstall Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:08:55 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158784 Rooney seems to have worked out how to get into the next match though: injure Walcott in training. Rooney seems to have worked out how to get into the next match though: injure Walcott in training.

]]> By: John Quiggin http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/comment-page-1/#comment-158783 John Quiggin Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:23:49 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/11/spam-and-soccer/#comment-158783 The social value added by Google (including Blogspot) is declining fast and could easily become negative. The social value added by Google (including Blogspot) is declining fast and could easily become negative.

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