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	<title>Comments on: Data ain&#8217;t just for geeks anymore</title>
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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; 129 Wallace</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161927</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; 129 Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161901</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. Assuming you can do graphs with x, y and z axes, does this mean you could create 5 dimensional graphs using time and colour?</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua W. Burton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161897</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua W. Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cambodian and Rwandan genocides stand out shockingly when animated, on several axes.  (One dot leaves the pack in a disturbing plummet, and you find yourself hovering over it, concerned.  &quot;Hey, what&#039;s wrong with you, little fella...?  Who is this, anyway -- &lt;i&gt;ohhh.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;) But two &quot;false positives&quot; also stand out, namely the collapse of the Soviet bloc and the liberation of southern Africa (SA, Lesotho, Swaziland, Zimbabwe).  Both of the latter look almost indistinguishable from genocides by the blind financial and health measures we are graphing, which nicely underlines that statistics illuminate, but cannot replace, more qualitative historical analysis.  It&#039;s a pity Iraq isn&#039;t in the dataset.

There are all sorts of little entertainments hiding in the data, too.  Cheering Ireland on as it surges past the UK, for example, or watching Mexico rapidly catch up to its northern neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Cambodian and Rwandan genocides stand out shockingly when animated, on several axes.  (One dot leaves the pack in a disturbing plummet, and you find yourself hovering over it, concerned.  &#8220;Hey, what&#8217;s wrong with you, little fella&#8230;?  Who is this, anyway&#8212;<i>ohhh.</i>&#8220;) But two &#8220;false positives&#8221; also stand out, namely the collapse of the Soviet bloc and the liberation of southern Africa (SA, Lesotho, Swaziland, Zimbabwe).  Both of the latter look almost indistinguishable from genocides by the blind financial and health measures we are graphing, which nicely underlines that statistics illuminate, but cannot replace, more qualitative historical analysis.  It&#8217;s a pity Iraq isn&#8217;t in the dataset.</p>

	<p>There are all sorts of little entertainments hiding in the data, too.  Cheering Ireland on as it surges past the UK, for example, or watching Mexico rapidly catch up to its northern neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161855</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to check out the links in the update above. Scary, even more options!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Be sure to check out the links in the update above. Scary, even more options!</p>
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		<title>By: vivian</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161839</link>
		<dc:creator>vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, cool. Must force self to sleep now, play later. ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow, cool. Must force self to sleep now, play later. ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Maynard Handley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161823</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll once again plug this video 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7996617766640098677
which has the leader of the gapminder team explaining the project.

(Sadly it&#039;s hosted by google video which has totally jumped the shark when it comes to handling videos longer than about 5 minutes. Good luck playing it or downloading it without something going wrong every five minutes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ll once again plug this video<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7996617766640098677" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7996617766640098677</a><br />
which has the leader of the gapminder team explaining the project.</p>

	<p>(Sadly it&#8217;s hosted by google video which has totally jumped the shark when it comes to handling videos longer than about 5 minutes. Good luck playing it or downloading it without something going wrong every five minutes.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gardner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161820</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely done, Eszter.</description>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161816</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I realize it&#039;s not new, but I hadn&#039;t seen it before, which probably means that many others hadn&#039;t either so I thought it was worth a note. (I&#039;m not suggesting you were claiming otherwise.:)

What a great tool for teaching purposes. While I realize that a certain level of appreciation for this tool may require one to be a geek, the point of the post&#039;s title was to signal that in a presentation lots of students (or whatever audience) could get into and understand the material much better than trying to convey the information in other ways.  It makes material really accessible. Of course, it&#039;s still important that one use it with care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, I realize it&#8217;s not new, but I hadn&#8217;t seen it before, which probably means that many others hadn&#8217;t either so I thought it was worth a note. (I&#8217;m not suggesting you were claiming otherwise.:)</p>

	<p>What a great tool for teaching purposes. While I realize that a certain level of appreciation for this tool may require one to be a geek, the point of the post&#8217;s title was to signal that in a presentation lots of students (or whatever audience) could get into and understand the material much better than trying to convey the information in other ways.  It makes material really accessible. Of course, it&#8217;s still important that one use it with care.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/28/data-aint-just-for-geeks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-161810</link>
		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gapminder&#039;s stuff came out of a WHO-funded project at the Karolinska Institut.  They&#039;ve had various betas available on the web for some years - it was interesting to watch it grow in scope and flexibility (and I hope it&#039;s development is not finished yet).

Congrats to the WHO for realising there is a real public good aspect to accessible data analysis and doing something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gapminder&#8217;s stuff came out of a <span class="caps">WHO</span>-funded project at the Karolinska Institut.  They&#8217;ve had various betas available on the web for some years &#8211; it was interesting to watch it grow in scope and flexibility (and I hope it&#8217;s development is not finished yet).</p>

	<p>Congrats to the <span class="caps">WHO</span> for realising there is a real public good aspect to accessible data analysis and doing something about it.</p>
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