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	<title>Comments on: Gender Trouble</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162591</link>
		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I briefly thought Gareth was a female name, for some reason—probably because of Elizabeth and Gwyneth.&quot;

It can be: Birmingham Six lawyer Gareth Peirce is a woman. 
But then a lot of male names now seem to be female: Dana, Evelyn, Lindsay, Cameron...

&quot;Andrea&quot; in Italian is a man&#039;s name. I embarrassed myself once by asking to speak to Signora Andrea X - the man on the end of the phone said &quot;That&#039;s me&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I briefly thought Gareth was a female name, for some reason&#8212;probably because of Elizabeth and Gwyneth.&#8221;</p>

	<p>It can be: Birmingham Six lawyer Gareth Peirce is a woman.<br />
But then a lot of male names now seem to be female: Dana, Evelyn, Lindsay, Cameron&#8230;</p>

	<p>&#8220;Andrea&#8221; in Italian is a man&#8217;s name. I embarrassed myself once by asking to speak to Signora Andrea X &#8211; the man on the end of the phone said &#8220;That&#8217;s me&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162576</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 05:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a Sam Taylor Wood exhibition and asked the attendant a question about &quot;his&quot; photos.  Embarassingly, the piece in question was a self portrait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I went to a Sam Taylor Wood exhibition and asked the attendant a question about &#8220;his&#8221; photos.  Embarassingly, the piece in question was a self portrait.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162507</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran &quot;Kieran&quot; through several name gender recognition tools, and it isn&#039;t even remotely female.  More importantly, I ran it through a Bayes filter trained on the inflection of N. American names and Kieran even SOUNDS male.  

New York Times, heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I ran &#8220;Kieran&#8221; through several name gender recognition tools, and it isn&#8217;t even remotely female.  More importantly, I ran it through a Bayes filter trained on the inflection of N. American names and Kieran even <span class="caps">SOUNDS</span> male.</p>

	<p>New York Times, heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162487</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 12:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes well, Kieran, imagine the troubles you&#039;d have had, had you been named &#039;Enda&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes well, Kieran, imagine the troubles you&#8217;d have had, had you been named &#8216;Enda&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162479</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 08:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never had any idea what gender you subscribed to, and to my surprise now, I never cared or considered it up to this point. Do I get a cookie for not imposing my gender norms on the world of ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I never had any idea what gender you subscribed to, and to my surprise now, I never cared or considered it up to this point. Do I get a cookie for not imposing my gender norms on the world of ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162467</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t mean for that to seem so insulting (to women or Kieren or his parents), but your writing in combination with feminate name have always led me to assume you were a woman. Comment was meant to be fun, highlighting how fully stereotypes can fail us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Didn&#8217;t mean for that to seem so insulting (to women or Kieren or his parents), but your writing in combination with feminate name have always led me to assume you were a woman. Comment was meant to be fun, highlighting how fully stereotypes can fail us.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162466</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I never once suspected you were a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow! I never once suspected you were a man.</p>
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		<title>By: etat</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162409</link>
		<dc:creator>etat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Vivian Bird was a woman - until I came across his photograph on a dust jacket this morning.

And the Singh family across the road have a done a bit of assimilation by calling one son Eamonn - which, when I first heard him say it, I took to be a conventional Indian name....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought Vivian Bird was a woman &#8211; until I came across his photograph on a dust jacket this morning.</p>

	<p>And the Singh family across the road have a done a bit of assimilation by calling one son Eamonn &#8211; which, when I first heard him say it, I took to be a conventional Indian name&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162388</link>
		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiera Nearly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kiera Nearly?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162384</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Irish friend married a Chinese woman many years ago. Their first son was christened Liam, which a mutual Italian friend took to be a Chinese name &quot;Lee Yum&quot;.

But the best Irish name-play I&#039;ve heard (probably old news to the folks here) was another Irish friend who referred to Sinead O&#039;Connor as Shinehead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>An Irish friend married a Chinese woman many years ago. Their first son was christened Liam, which a mutual Italian friend took to be a Chinese name &#8220;Lee Yum&#8221;.</p>

	<p>But the best Irish name-play I&#8217;ve heard (probably old news to the folks here) was another Irish friend who referred to Sinead O&#8217;Connor as Shinehead.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162382</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you&#039;re not Ciaran. Then you&#039;d add pronunciation confusion (though I imagine Kieran isn&#039;t immune to that either).

Presumably some people think it&#039;s a variation of Karen.

I briefly thought Gareth was a female name, for some reason -- probably because of Elizabeth and Gwyneth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At least you&#8217;re not Ciaran. Then you&#8217;d add pronunciation confusion (though I imagine Kieran isn&#8217;t immune to that either).</p>

	<p>Presumably some people think it&#8217;s a variation of Karen.</p>

	<p>I briefly thought Gareth was a female name, for some reason&#8212;probably because of Elizabeth and Gwyneth.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryKaye</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162381</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryKaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also didn&#039;t know whether Kieran was a male or female name.  And, couldn&#039;t be sure of your academic discipline.  So I Googled you.  Problem solved.  An even easier solution would have been to follow the links attached to this website.  You&#039;d have thought the NY Times... Oh, well.  Maybe they need to hire a Mensa affiliate to figure stuff like that out.  Although a Mensa candidate would likely find my solution a little pedestrian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I also didn&#8217;t know whether Kieran was a male or female name.  And, couldn&#8217;t be sure of your academic discipline.  So I Googled you.  Problem solved.  An even easier solution would have been to follow the links attached to this website.  You&#8217;d have thought the <span class="caps">NY </span>Times&#8230; Oh, well.  Maybe they need to hire a Mensa affiliate to figure stuff like that out.  Although a Mensa candidate would likely find my solution a little pedestrian.</p>
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		<title>By: Baptiste</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162361</link>
		<dc:creator>Baptiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because my first name is ending with a &quot;-e&quot;, and because some think that French names with &quot;-e&quot;-endings are female names (such as Celine, Marie, Michelle, Danielle...), I get more than a few &quot;Mrs&quot;. I think that this misunderstanding might have helped the translation and publication of &lt;a href=&quot;http://coulmont.com/articles/#2005c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article (doi:10.1300/J155v09n01_17)&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Because my first name is ending with a &#8220;-e&#8221;, and because some think that French names with &#8220;-e&#8221;-endings are female names (such as Celine, Marie, Michelle, Danielle&#8230;), I get more than a few &#8220;Mrs&#8221;. I think that this misunderstanding might have helped the translation and publication of <a href="http://coulmont.com/articles/#2005c" rel="nofollow">this article (doi:10.1300/J155v09n01_17)</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162359</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would have been even better if you &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; turned out to be a woman, just one who answers the phone with an abnormally deep voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Would have been even better if you <em>had</em> turned out to be a woman, just one who answers the phone with an abnormally deep voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/06/30/gender-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-162355</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I had thought &quot;Kieran&quot; was a woman&#039;s name too, until I noticed how often commenters were using male pronouns to refer to you.  I suppose I had never known a Kieran before, and maybe wanted to believe that Crooked Timber was more gender-balanced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, I had thought &#8220;Kieran&#8221; was a woman&#8217;s name too, until I noticed how often commenters were using male pronouns to refer to you.  I suppose I had never known a Kieran before, and maybe wanted to believe that Crooked Timber was more gender-balanced?</p>
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