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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162916</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuben, Bryan Robson played for England until 1991-92, when he would have been 34 or 35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Reuben, Bryan Robson played for England until 1991-92, when he would have been 34 or 35.</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162646</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly - so if you have the choice, you don&#039;t opt for someone who is likely to be some way past his prime at the next world cup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Exactly &#8211; so if you have the choice, you don&#8217;t opt for someone who is likely to be some way past his prime at the next world cup.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162621</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem is more with the idea that once you name a captain you can&#039;t drop him from the team and you can&#039;t pass the armband to someone else without creating a crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think the problem is more with the idea that once you name a captain you can&#8217;t drop him from the team and you can&#8217;t pass the armband to someone else without creating a crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162620</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else agree that the Beckham problem - great for the first few years of his captaincy, but then a liability at the end - is exactly why McLaren should choose John Terry over Gerrard? 

By the next world cup, Terry should still be in excellent form (29-year-old central defenders are often at their peak), whereas at 30 Gerrard will be very old for a marauding midfielder. Choosing Gerrard now invites the same type of problem Erickson had this time round with Beckham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Does anyone else agree that the Beckham problem &#8211; great for the first few years of his captaincy, but then a liability at the end &#8211; is exactly why McLaren should choose John Terry over Gerrard?</p>

	<p>By the next world cup, Terry should still be in excellent form (29-year-old central defenders are often at their peak), whereas at 30 Gerrard will be very old for a marauding midfielder. Choosing Gerrard now invites the same type of problem Erickson had this time round with Beckham.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackmormon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob G, Wax Banks, you&#039;re right that he had no easy role. Thanks for the vigorous defense--I&#039;ll look forward to watching more of Crouch&#039;s play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rob G, Wax Banks, you&#8217;re right that he had no easy role. Thanks for the vigorous defense&#8212;I&#8217;ll look forward to watching more of Crouch&#8217;s play.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162599</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A team full of David Beckhams would get wiped off the pitch. He can&#039;t run, he can&#039;t tackle, and he can&#039;t beat players. England weren&#039;t winning the admiration of the world before Saturday, and the certainly wouldn&#039;t with a team like that. 
Rooney, on the other hand, is a footballing natural, who can take your breath away, and it&#039;s flair like that that wins fans. 
Oh, btw &quot;DAVID BECKHAM has accumulated six red cards in his career: one for Manchester United , two for England (against Argentina and Austria) and three for Real Madrid. Beckham is the only official captain to be sent off in England’s history, the only England player to be sent off twice and only the tenth since internationals began in 1872.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A team full of David Beckhams would get wiped off the pitch. He can&#8217;t run, he can&#8217;t tackle, and he can&#8217;t beat players. England weren&#8217;t winning the admiration of the world before Saturday, and the certainly wouldn&#8217;t with a team like that.<br />
Rooney, on the other hand, is a footballing natural, who can take your breath away, and it&#8217;s flair like that that wins fans.<br />
Oh, btw &#8220;DAVID <span class="caps">BECKHAM</span> has accumulated six red cards in his career: one for Manchester United , two for England (against Argentina and Austria) and three for Real Madrid. Beckham is the only official captain to be sent off in England&#8217;s history, the only England player to be sent off twice and only the tenth since internationals began in 1872.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Newman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162594</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beckham is an honourable man.

I&#039;ll second that, and what&#039;s more, Wayne Rooney is a little thug. Previous red cards for shoving opposing players in the face after the whistle, etc. Sportswriters indulgently refer to his &quot;mercurial temperament&quot; but he should really be stripped of the national colours for dishonoring Queen and country. Except you&#039;d get laughed at in England for such high-minded pretension.

That said, look at the rest of this tournament: pocked and marred by turf-diving nancies and aggro assholes from every nation, fans everywhere disgusted by the cynical dishonest way the game is played now. If there was one nation poised better than any other to play good clean football it was Britain - Rooney is only the third Englishman sent off in a WC game, because there is a strong tradition of English fair play, etc.

England could have fielded an honourable side, and though they might not have lifted the trophy, they would have won the admiration of the world, for playing the game idealistically in a debased and cynical age. Instead they fielded a thorough blackguard, called upon him to be the English messiah, no less, and got an entirely predictable result.

A team full of David Beckhams, now, that would be a team to watch. They might not win every match but they would surely restore the &quot;beautiful game.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Beckham is an honourable man.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ll second that, and what&#8217;s more, Wayne Rooney is a little thug. Previous red cards for shoving opposing players in the face after the whistle, etc. Sportswriters indulgently refer to his &#8220;mercurial temperament&#8221; but he should really be stripped of the national colours for dishonoring Queen and country. Except you&#8217;d get laughed at in England for such high-minded pretension.</p>

	<p>That said, look at the rest of this tournament: pocked and marred by turf-diving nancies and aggro assholes from every nation, fans everywhere disgusted by the cynical dishonest way the game is played now. If there was one nation poised better than any other to play good clean football it was Britain &#8211; Rooney is only the third Englishman sent off in a WC game, because there is a strong tradition of English fair play, etc.</p>

	<p>England could have fielded an honourable side, and though they might not have lifted the trophy, they would have won the admiration of the world, for playing the game idealistically in a debased and cynical age. Instead they fielded a thorough blackguard, called upon him to be the English messiah, no less, and got an entirely predictable result.</p>

	<p>A team full of David Beckhams, now, that would be a team to watch. They might not win every match but they would surely restore the &#8220;beautiful game.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Wax Banks</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162568</link>
		<dc:creator>Wax Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackmormon - I&#039;m with rob g, Crouch played his ass off in that match, and he had no simple job all alone in front. For a big man he&#039;s as agile as you could possibly want, excellent in the corner on the turnaround, and of course on setpieces he&#039;s deadly. Portugal scraped by.

(I&#039;m for eliminating penalty kicks entirely, myself. But I love marathon sporting events, and hate the arbitrariness of penalties.)

All the Beckham criticism rubs me the wrong way; he&#039;s a bit lazy and invisible much of the time but I&#039;ve never seen a footballer who can place the ball as precisely as he can, and his corners and free kicks must horrify his opponents. He&#039;s one of those players who can carry a game on his shoulders with only a moment&#039;s involvement.

The greatest living Englishman isn&#039;t Andrew Sullivan? Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jackmormon &#8211; I&#8217;m with rob g, Crouch played his ass off in that match, and he had no simple job all alone in front. For a big man he&#8217;s as agile as you could possibly want, excellent in the corner on the turnaround, and of course on setpieces he&#8217;s deadly. Portugal scraped by.</p>

	<p>(I&#8217;m for eliminating penalty kicks entirely, myself. But I love marathon sporting events, and hate the arbitrariness of penalties.)</p>

	<p>All the Beckham criticism rubs me the wrong way; he&#8217;s a bit lazy and invisible much of the time but I&#8217;ve never seen a footballer who can place the ball as precisely as he can, and his corners and free kicks must horrify his opponents. He&#8217;s one of those players who can carry a game on his shoulders with only a moment&#8217;s involvement.</p>

	<p>The greatest living Englishman isn&#8217;t Andrew Sullivan? Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kervick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162564</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kervick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dan, you present an odd list. Only two of the names on the list has advanced further than England.  And it contains no one from Portugal, who is more impotent than England striker-wise, and that was true even after Rooney was sent off.&lt;/i&gt;

I didn&#039;t mean to suggest that having a world class scorer guarantees a trip to the semis - only that lacking one makes it very difficult to advance that far.

I did mention &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; Ronaldos in my list - including Cristiano from Portugal.  Pauleta, Figo and C. Ronaldo all appear to me to be more dangerous scoring threats than anyone England had out there yesterday.  I&#039;m sure with Owen and a 100% Rooney, England would have a much more potent attack.  But I think Portugal has had the stronger side overall in this particular tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Dan, you present an odd list. Only two of the names on the list has advanced further than England.  And it contains no one from Portugal, who is more impotent than England striker-wise, and that was true even after Rooney was sent off.</i></p>

	<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest that having a world class scorer guarantees a trip to the semis &#8211; only that lacking one makes it very difficult to advance that far.</p>

	<p>I did mention <i>both</i> Ronaldos in my list &#8211; including Cristiano from Portugal.  Pauleta, Figo and C. Ronaldo all appear to me to be more dangerous scoring threats than anyone England had out there yesterday.  I&#8217;m sure with Owen and a 100% Rooney, England would have a much more potent attack.  But I think Portugal has had the stronger side overall in this particular tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162562</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackmormon, I&#039;ll resist the temptation to spell your name with one &quot;m&quot;. Given his assigned task as lone striker in a depleted side, Crouch performed admirably. He held up the ball and layed it off well when he could, showing no little skill. Ideally he&#039;d have a bit more acceleration, but as Rummy said &quot;the army you&#039;ve got&quot;, etc. 

Ray is right. Lennon always made England more threatening. Beckham is a one-trick pony.

All that said, my main beef with England was why they didn&#039;t dominate midfield, with Gerrard, Lampard, Cole and the (excellent) Hargreaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jackmormon, I&#8217;ll resist the temptation to spell your name with one &#8220;m&#8221;. Given his assigned task as lone striker in a depleted side, Crouch performed admirably. He held up the ball and layed it off well when he could, showing no little skill. Ideally he&#8217;d have a bit more acceleration, but as Rummy said &#8220;the army you&#8217;ve got&#8221;, etc.</p>

	<p>Ray is right. Lennon always made England more threatening. Beckham is a one-trick pony.</p>

	<p>All that said, my main beef with England was why they didn&#8217;t dominate midfield, with Gerrard, Lampard, Cole and the (excellent) Hargreaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 23:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beckham would probably play better if Posh didn&#039;t wear his balls for earrings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Beckham would probably play better if Posh didn&#8217;t wear his balls for earrings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackmormon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so Sunday was my first chance to watch English striker Crouch play--the gigantic gangly guy--and I was underimpressed. The Portuguese defenders seemed to be able to dribble through his legs, and he always seemed a half-second behind in every reaction. Was this just a bad match for him, or am I right in suspecting that his size and physique come with some limitations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Okay, so Sunday was my first chance to watch English striker Crouch play&#8212;the gigantic gangly guy&#8212;and I was underimpressed. The Portuguese defenders seemed to be able to dribble through his legs, and he always seemed a half-second behind in every reaction. Was this just a bad match for him, or am I right in suspecting that his size and physique come with some limitations?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Karreman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/02/the-armband-passes/comment-page-1/#comment-162543</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Karreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you present an odd list. Only two of the names on the list has advanced further than England. And it contains no one from Portugal, who is more impotent than England striker-wise, and that was true even after Rooney was sent off.  But they are in the semi-finals. At this stage,  it really is luck, tradition (compare England&#039;s penalties with Germany&#039;s) and the odd great move of the truly great footballer (aka Zidane) that makes the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan, you present an odd list. Only two of the names on the list has advanced further than England. And it contains no one from Portugal, who is more impotent than England striker-wise, and that was true even after Rooney was sent off.  But they are in the semi-finals. At this stage,  it really is luck, tradition (compare England&#8217;s penalties with Germany&#8217;s) and the odd great move of the truly great footballer (aka Zidane) that makes the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Thlayli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thlayli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Beckham shares his initials with another strong candidate for Greatest Living Englishman, David Bowie&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Bowie&quot; is a stage name, which David Jones adopted to avoid confusion with the Monkees singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Beckham shares his initials with another strong candidate for Greatest Living Englishman, David Bowie</i></p>

	<p>&#8220;Bowie&#8221; is a stage name, which David Jones adopted to avoid confusion with the Monkees singer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kervick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kervick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At least half of this England team is seriously good.&lt;/i&gt;

The overall quality of the team guaranteed competitive games and promising possessions.  But in soc-foot-cer-ball you need to have some players who can put the ball in the net. And in the World Cup you need world class scorers to beat world class defenders.

With no Owen and a hobbled Rooney, England had no world class finishers on its squad: no Klose, no Ronaldo, no Henry, no Ronaldinho, no the other Ronaldo, no Raul, no Shevchenko, no Robben.

Compare France.  France played a fine all-around game against Brazil, but in the end it was Zidane to Henry that made the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>At least half of this England team is seriously good.</i></p>

	<p>The overall quality of the team guaranteed competitive games and promising possessions.  But in soc-foot-cer-ball you need to have some players who can put the ball in the net. And in the World Cup you need world class scorers to beat world class defenders.</p>

	<p>With no Owen and a hobbled Rooney, England had no world class finishers on its squad: no Klose, no Ronaldo, no Henry, no Ronaldinho, no the other Ronaldo, no Raul, no Shevchenko, no Robben.</p>

	<p>Compare France.  France played a fine all-around game against Brazil, but in the end it was Zidane to Henry that made the difference.</p>
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