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	<title>Comments on: The Tomorrow People (not behind the sofa, out of the closet)</title>
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		<title>By: Matt McIrvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McIrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife has fond memories of watching Tomorrow People reruns on Nickelodeon (the original series, not the revival).  When they started coming out on DVD, she showed me some of them.

It&#039;s an odd, interesting show.  I have some of the queasy reaction to it that I always do when somebody uses the Odd John/Slan formula, which seems to be a mainstay of science fiction for kids: the invitation to fantasize that you&#039;re secretly a member of the new master race, and that&#039;s why you don&#039;t fit in.  At least in this case their intentions toward others are explicitly and necessarily benign, though as with Asimov&#039;s robots, you can always come up with interesting questions about what constitutes doing harm; but the casually insulting way they&#039;d talk about the &quot;saps&quot; sometimes gave me pause.

The show frequently had a surprisingly grim tone, set by the ominous opening theme music and surrealistic credits sequence; I know that if I&#039;d watched it as a kid, I&#039;d have thought I was being offered entry to something highly sophisticated and adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My wife has fond memories of watching Tomorrow People reruns on Nickelodeon (the original series, not the revival).  When they started coming out on <span class="caps">DVD</span>, she showed me some of them.</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s an odd, interesting show.  I have some of the queasy reaction to it that I always do when somebody uses the Odd John/Slan formula, which seems to be a mainstay of science fiction for kids: the invitation to fantasize that you&#8217;re secretly a member of the new master race, and that&#8217;s why you don&#8217;t fit in.  At least in this case their intentions toward others are explicitly and necessarily benign, though as with Asimov&#8217;s robots, you can always come up with interesting questions about what constitutes doing harm; but the casually insulting way they&#8217;d talk about the &#8220;saps&#8221; sometimes gave me pause.</p>

	<p>The show frequently had a surprisingly grim tone, set by the ominous opening theme music and surrealistic credits sequence; I know that if I&#8217;d watched it as a kid, I&#8217;d have thought I was being offered entry to something highly sophisticated and adult.</p>
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		<title>By: HK</title>
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		<dc:creator>HK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Leela was a savage, so, again, fair comment, but she was hardly complex.&quot;

A mistake some of the writers made subsequent to her introduction, but in the very first episode she appears in she is the only one of her tribe of savages who question the mystical pronouncements of the holy man and is willing to do something about it.  She does not have the benefit of being brought up in an advanced society, but she is clearly inquisitive and quick to adapt to the ideas she encountered in the wider universe and gains much from her travels with the Doctor.  Only the worse writers made the mistake of characterising her as a simple savage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Leela was a savage, so, again, fair comment, but she was hardly complex.&#8221;</p>

	<p>A mistake some of the writers made subsequent to her introduction, but in the very first episode she appears in she is the only one of her tribe of savages who question the mystical pronouncements of the holy man and is willing to do something about it.  She does not have the benefit of being brought up in an advanced society, but she is clearly inquisitive and quick to adapt to the ideas she encountered in the wider universe and gains much from her travels with the Doctor.  Only the worse writers made the mistake of characterising her as a simple savage.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Dodsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Dodsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This seems to be a British idiom I’m unfamiliar with; the “other side” of what?&lt;/i&gt;

In this case, ITV (the commercial channel, of which there was only one when The Tomorrow People was on) as opposed to the BBC, but it&#039;s not specific: &quot;This is rubbish. Turn over and see what&#039;s on the other side&quot;. 

A quick poll of my co-workers suggests that it&#039;s not still current. It presumably dates back to the 50s/60s when there were only two channels. 

Oh, and I should add that it&#039;s probably &#039;the other side&#039; as in &#039;the other side of the dial&#039; and not &#039;the other team&#039;, if that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>This seems to be a British idiom I&#8217;m unfamiliar with; the &#8220;other side&#8221; of what?</i></p>

	<p>In this case, <span class="caps">ITV </span>(the commercial channel, of which there was only one when The Tomorrow People was on) as opposed to the <span class="caps">BBC</span>, but it&#8217;s not specific: &#8220;This is rubbish. Turn over and see what&#8217;s on the other side&#8221;.</p>

	<p>A quick poll of my co-workers suggests that it&#8217;s not still current. It presumably dates back to the 50s/60s when there were only two channels.</p>

	<p>Oh, and I should add that it&#8217;s probably &#8216;the other side&#8217; as in &#8216;the other side of the dial&#8217; and not &#8216;the other team&#8217;, if that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Farber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My parents were too liberal to prohibit us from watching the other side [...] if it was on the other side....&quot;

This seems to be a British idiom I&#039;m unfamiliar with; the &quot;other side&quot; of what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;My parents were too liberal to prohibit us from watching the other side [...] if it was on the other side&#8230;.&#8221;</p>

	<p>This seems to be a British idiom I&#8217;m unfamiliar with; the &#8220;other side&#8221; of what?</p>
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		<title>By: rjudel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjudel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomorrow People was crap. Sapphire &amp; Steel rules- a kind of noir version of Dr. Who. Weird and a little scary at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tomorrow People was crap. Sapphire &#038; Steel rules- a kind of noir version of Dr. Who. Weird and a little scary at times.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry

&quot;thanks for the links, which I’ll follow 
up. I wrote soemthing more elaboatre 
about this a couple of years ago, and 
will try to find the link.&quot;

That would be great. And thank you for
being interested. It seems like so many
people feel that there are so many more
important issues at hand, and don&#039;t realize
the link between the TV and the mess we&#039;re in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Harry</p>

	<p>&#8220;thanks for the links, which I&#8217;ll follow<br />
up. I wrote soemthing more elaboatre<br />
about this a couple of years ago, and<br />
will try to find the link.&#8221;</p>

	<p>That would be great. And thank you for<br />
being interested. It seems like so many<br />
people feel that there are so many more<br />
important issues at hand, and don&#8217;t realize<br />
the link between the TV and the mess we&#8217;re in.</p>
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		<title>By: harry b</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sasha -- I, too, watched some of the new early 90s  series from Australia, and was underwhelmed. I thought that might have reflected on the whole concept, till I saw the originals again.

robin -- ok, on Romana One. But Romana 2 didn&#039;t do much more than stand around looking pretty (not much screaming, I admit). Leela was a savage, so, again, fair comment, but she was hardly complex. Actually, Liz (from Jon Pertwee&#039;s first season) is probably a better counterxample to my general dismissal than either Leela or Romana (that may not be true -- nut saying it makes my seem nerdier than thou).

terry -- thanks for the links, which I&#039;ll follow up. I wrote soemthing more elaboatre about this a couple of years ago, and will try to find the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>sasha&#8212;I, too, watched some of the new early 90s  series from Australia, and was underwhelmed. I thought that might have reflected on the whole concept, till I saw the originals again.</p>

	<p>robin&#8212;ok, on Romana One. But Romana 2 didn&#8217;t do much more than stand around looking pretty (not much screaming, I admit). Leela was a savage, so, again, fair comment, but she was hardly complex. Actually, Liz (from Jon Pertwee&#8217;s first season) is probably a better counterxample to my general dismissal than either Leela or Romana (that may not be true&#8212;nut saying it makes my seem nerdier than thou).</p>

	<p>terry&#8212;thanks for the links, which I&#8217;ll follow up. I wrote soemthing more elaboatre about this a couple of years ago, and will try to find the link.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pictures were better on the wireless.  &quot;Charles Chilton&#039;s Journey into Space&quot;.  Yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The pictures were better on the wireless.  &#8220;Charles Chilton&#8217;s Journey into Space&#8221;.  Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Martens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Martens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to watch it on Nickelodeon.  My brother bought me the DVDs last year.  I have fond memories of Carol too.  I was a little shocked years later to find out she&#039;s roughly my mother&#039;s age.

Watching it as an adult, it seemed very strange to see the effects that I thought were cool and spooky and seem very cheesy now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I used to watch it on Nickelodeon.  My brother bought me the DVDs last year.  I have fond memories of Carol too.  I was a little shocked years later to find out she&#8217;s roughly my mother&#8217;s age.</p>

	<p>Watching it as an adult, it seemed very strange to see the effects that I thought were cool and spooky and seem very cheesy now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Brak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Brak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother wouldn&#039;t let me watch it until I was old enough not to be impressed by it.  I think it may have been the fetus in the opening credits that put her off.  Which is kind of understandable.  She had put up with three fetuses growing inside her by that point and was probably sick to death of them.  If only the opening credits had been campy and spacey I would have been allowed to watch it.  My mother would always say, &quot;You can watch the Tomorrow People tomorrow,&quot; which never impressed me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My mother wouldn&#8217;t let me watch it until I was old enough not to be impressed by it.  I think it may have been the fetus in the opening credits that put her off.  Which is kind of understandable.  She had put up with three fetuses growing inside her by that point and was probably sick to death of them.  If only the opening credits had been campy and spacey I would have been allowed to watch it.  My mother would always say, &#8220;You can watch the Tomorrow People tomorrow,&#8221; which never impressed me.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My strategy is less liberal; my kids watch only what we permit, and only when we permit it.&quot;

Good for you, it&#039;s so easy for parents to think that TV is just harmless fun.

TV&#039;s Effect on Education 

&quot;No matter what your intelligence or social background, watching a lot of television during childhood means you are a lot less likely to have a degree by your mid-twenties, according 
to new University of Otago research.&quot; 

http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/2005/05-07-05_press_release.html 

&quot;Third graders with a bedroom television scored significantly lower on the Stanford Achievement Test than those without...&quot; 

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/tb/1303 

The difference between TV and every other activity is that during every other activity the brain is producting Beta (and even Gamma) brainwaves. While watching TV, on the other hand, the brain very quickly goes into Alpha brainwave mode.

http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h99c/h9951826/television.PDF

It is natural for the brain to produce Alpha brainwaves while daydreaming, but it is not natural (or healthy) for the brain to be in Alpha brainwave mode for hours per day, every day. This is espcially true for young children as their brains are still developing.

The invention of the printing press brought about the Age of Reason. The invention of TV has brought us the Age of Entertainment.

And there are more studies linking childhood TV viewing with low achievement. See: 

http://www.tvsmarter.com 
http://www.trashyourtv.com/node 
http://www.whitedot.org 
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;My strategy is less liberal; my kids watch only what we permit, and only when we permit it.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Good for you, it&#8217;s so easy for parents to think that TV is just harmless fun.</p>

	<p>TV&#8217;s Effect on Education</p>

	<p>&#8220;No matter what your intelligence or social background, watching a lot of television during childhood means you are a lot less likely to have a degree by your mid-twenties, according<br />
to new University of Otago research.&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/2005/05-07-05_press_release.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/2005/05-07-05_press_release.html</a></p>

	<p>&#8220;Third graders with a bedroom television scored significantly lower on the Stanford Achievement Test than those without&#8230;&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/tb/1303" rel="nofollow">http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/tb/1303</a></p>

	<p>The difference between TV and every other activity is that during every other activity the brain is producting Beta (and even Gamma) brainwaves. While watching TV, on the other hand, the brain very quickly goes into Alpha brainwave mode.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h99c/h9951826/television.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h99c/h9951826/television.PDF</a></p>

	<p>It is natural for the brain to produce Alpha brainwaves while daydreaming, but it is not natural (or healthy) for the brain to be in Alpha brainwave mode for hours per day, every day. This is espcially true for young children as their brains are still developing.</p>

	<p>The invention of the printing press brought about the Age of Reason. The invention of TV has brought us the Age of Entertainment.</p>

	<p>And there are more studies linking childhood TV viewing with low achievement. See:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.tvsmarter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvsmarter.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.trashyourtv.com/node" rel="nofollow">http://www.trashyourtv.com/node</a><br />
<a href="http://www.whitedot.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitedot.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.turnoffyourtv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.turnoffyourtv.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DonBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 04:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice pictures, thanks.  I did find several shots of her in the present, showing her to have remained quite lovely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nice pictures, thanks.  I did find several shots of her in the present, showing her to have remained quite lovely.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 04:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serious nerdom but re &quot;not just the screaming and whimpering characteristic of Doctor Who’s female companions prior to Ace&quot; ....

Leela? Romana?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Serious nerdom but re &#8220;not just the screaming and whimpering characteristic of Doctor Who&#8217;s female companions prior to Ace&#8221; &#8230;.</p>

	<p>Leela? Romana?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 03:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/tp/pics/carol.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;For donboy&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/tp/pics/carol.htm" rel="nofollow">For donboy</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha Volokh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha Volokh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 03:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, loved &lt;i&gt;The Tomorrow People&lt;/i&gt; (original 1970s series) when I watched it on Nickelodeon in the mid-1980s.  I recall once seeing an episode of the &quot;new generation&quot; (1990s) series and not being impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I, too, loved <i>The Tomorrow People</i> (original 1970s series) when I watched it on Nickelodeon in the mid-1980s.  I recall once seeing an episode of the &#8220;new generation&#8221; (1990s) series and not being impressed.</p>
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