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		<title>By: Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Without pain on a plane</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/27/long-flight-little-time-zone-change/comment-page-1/#comment-167236</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber &#187; &#187; Without pain on a plane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thanks for the many helpful recommendations given in response to my request last week about enduring a long flight without losing too much of the next day. I suspect the lack of time-zone change from Chicago to Buenos Aires helped quite a bit, but I would like to think my master preparedness was useful, too. Below the fold I have summarized the list of recommendations for future reference. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Thanks for the many helpful recommendations given in response to my request last week about enduring a long flight without losing too much of the next day. I suspect the lack of time-zone change from Chicago to Buenos Aires helped quite a bit, but I would like to think my master preparedness was useful, too. Below the fold I have summarized the list of recommendations for future reference. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/27/long-flight-little-time-zone-change/comment-page-1/#comment-166646</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are enroute already, you might look for this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.finefretted.com/html/world_center_of_the_classical_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book&lt;/a&gt; about Argentina&#039;s renaissance of flamenco guitar music (&quot;folkloric guitar&quot;).  The link there is a precis about ten pages length by the principal author, who has a retail store in CA&#039;s Silicon Valley.  Next best thing to performing etudes on the plane.  Also on CD, see link on page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you are enroute already, you might look for this <a href="http://www.finefretted.com/html/world_center_of_the_classical_.html" rel="nofollow">book</a> about Argentina&#8217;s renaissance of flamenco guitar music (&#8220;folkloric guitar&#8221;).  The link there is a precis about ten pages length by the principal author, who has a retail store in CA&#8217;s Silicon Valley.  Next best thing to performing etudes on the plane.  Also on CD, see link on page.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slocum: that&#039;s interesting, because I don&#039;t know of many people who are suffer more from westbound flights. That might be the power of anecdote, but when you gain five hours on an eight-hour flight that leaves in the morning or early afternoon, the general effect is just that you have a &#039;long night&#039; and hit the next day running. Do you fly from the east coast or further west?

I&#039;ve never needed nasal sprays, but I do have a little spray bottle of rosewater nabbed from a biz-class goodiebag that I use to spritz my face during the flight, especially before landing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>slocum: that&#8217;s interesting, because I don&#8217;t know of many people who are suffer more from westbound flights. That might be the power of anecdote, but when you gain five hours on an eight-hour flight that leaves in the morning or early afternoon, the general effect is just that you have a &#8216;long night&#8217; and hit the next day running. Do you fly from the east coast or further west?</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve never needed nasal sprays, but I do have a little spray bottle of rosewater nabbed from a biz-class goodiebag that I use to spritz my face during the flight, especially before landing.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eszter, my apologies.  I&#039;ve looked at your flickr site and seen one or two other pics of you and had formed the idea that you were perhaps 5&#039;5&quot; or so.  Or perhaps ill-formed stereotypes about Eastern Europeans were overwhelming actual sensory impressions.  In any event, 5&#039;10&quot; is tall enough to make sleeping on a plane difficult.  Try to get the legs up if you can.  Poor circulation to the lower legs will keep you from sleeping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eszter, my apologies.  I&#8217;ve looked at your flickr site and seen one or two other pics of you and had formed the idea that you were perhaps 5&#8217;5&#8221; or so.  Or perhaps ill-formed stereotypes about Eastern Europeans were overwhelming actual sensory impressions.  In any event, 5&#8217;10&#8221; is tall enough to make sleeping on a plane difficult.  Try to get the legs up if you can.  Poor circulation to the lower legs will keep you from sleeping.</p>
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		<title>By: dipnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>dipnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know from personal experience, but they say a cigarette in the morning will reset one&#039;s body clock and defeat jet lag.

It only works, they say, if you&#039;re not already a tobacco addict.

No, I don&#039;t remember who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know from personal experience, but they say a cigarette in the morning will reset one&#8217;s body clock and defeat jet lag.</p>

	<p>It only works, they say, if you&#8217;re not already a tobacco addict.</p>

	<p>No, I don&#8217;t remember who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn from Sunnyvale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn from Sunnyvale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about filling a prescription for a modern sleeping pill: simply having them can help with insomnia. The &quot;what if I can&#039;t fall asleep?&quot; worry can make falling asleep harder. Being able to answer &quot;I&#039;ll just use the Ambien&quot; stops that line of worrying without even having to take the Ambien, I&#039;ve found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One thing about filling a prescription for a modern sleeping pill: simply having them can help with insomnia. The &#8220;what if I can&#8217;t fall asleep?&#8221; worry can make falling asleep harder. Being able to answer &#8220;I&#8217;ll just use the Ambien&#8221; stops that line of worrying without even having to take the Ambien, I&#8217;ve found.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, as for pills, anything that requires a prescription is probably going to be more trouble than its worth in my book.  As for over-the-counter options, I think Doug K is right that I would want to try something at home first.  But I appreciate knowing that these solutions work well for some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, as for pills, anything that requires a prescription is probably going to be more trouble than its worth in my book.  As for over-the-counter options, I think Doug K is right that I would want to try something at home first.  But I appreciate knowing that these solutions work well for some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>second Kevin&#039;s suggestion, a bit of sleep is paramount. I&#039;ve used Ambien quite successfully. Also Nyquil capsules will knock me out for the requisite 5-6 hours, with minimal aftereffects, but try this at home first. 

I fly Denver-Germany for work, Denver-Greece or South Africa or Perth (Oz) annually for family, so have practised this a lot.. 

With a bit of sleep and the minimal timezone change, you should be fine. I&#039;ve always wanted to visit Buenos Aires..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>second Kevin&#8217;s suggestion, a bit of sleep is paramount. I&#8217;ve used Ambien quite successfully. Also Nyquil capsules will knock me out for the requisite 5-6 hours, with minimal aftereffects, but try this at home first.</p>

	<p>I fly Denver-Germany for work, Denver-Greece or South Africa or Perth (Oz) annually for family, so have practised this a lot..</p>

	<p>With a bit of sleep and the minimal timezone change, you should be fine. I&#8217;ve always wanted to visit Buenos Aires..</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/07/27/long-flight-little-time-zone-change/comment-page-1/#comment-166494</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for some great advice.  I&#039;ve gone and bought noise canceling headphones. I&#039;ve been meaning to anyway so this was helpful encouragement. I also remembered to add eyemask, earplugs (depending on my preference at the moment:) and nasal spray to my bag. I have my mp3 player (not the &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/17/the-diepod/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diePod&lt;/a&gt;, of course.  I also have some snacks and water. So I think I&#039;m set.

I&#039;m always conflicted about whether window or aisle seat works better. I wish I had checked the plane layout more carefully before getting a seat. If it&#039;s just two seats then window may be okay. Otherwise, it starts to feel claustrophobic to have to bother two people to get up.  So I usually opt for an aisle seat. But yes, it is really annoying to be bumped all the time.

United Premier members (which I am) get free upgrades to economy plus seats, which tend to have considerably more legroom. I consider this a must. That way, if the person in front of you leans back, you still have some room.

JR mentioned &quot;Since you’re on the shorter side&quot;.  Is this supposed to pertain to me?  I don&#039;t consider my over 5&#039;10 height to be on the shorter side especially since most of that is attributable to long legs (as opposed to a long torso).  So no, I rarely have enough legroom. That&#039;s partly why Economy Plus is so important. Not having luggage underneat the seat in front of mine will allow me to stretch my legs, which can be helpful.

Thanks all, some great advice here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks everyone for some great advice.  I&#8217;ve gone and bought noise canceling headphones. I&#8217;ve been meaning to anyway so this was helpful encouragement. I also remembered to add eyemask, earplugs (depending on my preference at the moment:) and nasal spray to my bag. I have my mp3 player (not the <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/17/the-diepod/" rel="nofollow">diePod</a>, of course.  I also have some snacks and water. So I think I&#8217;m set.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m always conflicted about whether window or aisle seat works better. I wish I had checked the plane layout more carefully before getting a seat. If it&#8217;s just two seats then window may be okay. Otherwise, it starts to feel claustrophobic to have to bother two people to get up.  So I usually opt for an aisle seat. But yes, it is really annoying to be bumped all the time.</p>

	<p>United Premier members (which I am) get free upgrades to economy plus seats, which tend to have considerably more legroom. I consider this a must. That way, if the person in front of you leans back, you still have some room.</p>

	<p>JR mentioned &#8220;Since you&#8217;re on the shorter side&#8221;.  Is this supposed to pertain to me?  I don&#8217;t consider my over 5&#8217;10 height to be on the shorter side especially since most of that is attributable to long legs (as opposed to a long torso).  So no, I rarely have enough legroom. That&#8217;s partly why Economy Plus is so important. Not having luggage underneat the seat in front of mine will allow me to stretch my legs, which can be helpful.</p>

	<p>Thanks all, some great advice here!</p>
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		<title>By: jakeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jakeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve recently found useful in dealing with the dry air (along with bringing at least a quart or two of water on board with me) is a nasal spray.  I find that by the end of a cross-US flight, my nose gets a little sore otherwise.  Spraying it every couple of hours reduces that irritation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One thing I&#8217;ve recently found useful in dealing with the dry air (along with bringing at least a quart or two of water on board with me) is a nasal spray.  I find that by the end of a cross-US flight, my nose gets a little sore otherwise.  Spraying it every couple of hours reduces that irritation.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As bad jim says, the eastbound pond-hop is always more draining than the westbound: in part because of the necessary scheduling to take off and land during airport opening hours, and in part because of your body clock. And, frankly, hitting Gatwick at 6am after an overnight flight is going to make anyone miserable.&lt;/i&gt;

Odd -- my experience (and my wife&#039;s) is exactly the opposite.  We get a couple of hours of sleep on the flight over and that seems to be enough to trick our bodies into counting it as a night.  We have little trouble staying up until a normal European bed-time and we&#039;re good to go with normal wake / sleep patterns.  But returning, even if we manage to stay up for the whole extended-length travel day, it still takes several days to a week to stop waking up a 3 or 4 in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>As bad jim says, the eastbound pond-hop is always more draining than the westbound: in part because of the necessary scheduling to take off and land during airport opening hours, and in part because of your body clock. And, frankly, hitting Gatwick at 6am after an overnight flight is going to make anyone miserable.</i></p>

	<p>Odd&#8212;my experience (and my wife&#8217;s) is exactly the opposite.  We get a couple of hours of sleep on the flight over and that seems to be enough to trick our bodies into counting it as a night.  We have little trouble staying up until a normal European bed-time and we&#8217;re good to go with normal wake / sleep patterns.  But returning, even if we manage to stay up for the whole extended-length travel day, it still takes several days to a week to stop waking up a 3 or 4 in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: A-ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t sleep, meditation is the next best thing for feeling mentally refreshed. One easy method: as you breathe, focus on counting to 10 over and over, one count per breath; or just repeat your social security number or something. If you haven&#039;t slept on the flight, meditate for a half hour before landing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you can&#8217;t sleep, meditation is the next best thing for feeling mentally refreshed. One easy method: as you breathe, focus on counting to 10 over and over, one count per breath; or just repeat your social security number or something. If you haven&#8217;t slept on the flight, meditate for a half hour before landing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go for a run the day you&#039;re due to fly out. On the plane, drink lots of water, don&#039;t drink as much alcohol as you&#039;re tempted to, and sleep as much as you can. When you get there, take a tablet or two of melatonin at 10pm local time (it helps reset the body clock).

I do about 4 trips a year from Australia to the northern hemisphere (24 hours each way, with connections), so I spend about 2% of my time sitting on or near a 747. This strategy seems to work pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Go for a run the day you&#8217;re due to fly out. On the plane, drink lots of water, don&#8217;t drink as much alcohol as you&#8217;re tempted to, and sleep as much as you can. When you get there, take a tablet or two of melatonin at 10pm local time (it helps reset the body clock).</p>

	<p>I do about 4 trips a year from Australia to the northern hemisphere (24 hours each way, with connections), so I spend about 2% of my time sitting on or near a 747. This strategy seems to work pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: CKR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I advise going right to sleep as soon as the long-haul flight lifts off the ground. Use earplugs, noise-canceling headphones, whatever you have, inflatable neck pillow, and an eye mask. Don&#039;t eat the food, but have water handy for when you wake up, which you probably will more than once. I usually wake up every hour to two hours.

The food is lousy (sometimes tolerable in Business Class), and it keeps me awake, not to mention the two hours possible sleep lost while the serving is going on.

A window seat is better for this strategy because you won&#039;t be bumped by the cabin crew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I advise going right to sleep as soon as the long-haul flight lifts off the ground. Use earplugs, noise-canceling headphones, whatever you have, inflatable neck pillow, and an eye mask. Don&#8217;t eat the food, but have water handy for when you wake up, which you probably will more than once. I usually wake up every hour to two hours.</p>

	<p>The food is lousy (sometimes tolerable in Business Class), and it keeps me awake, not to mention the two hours possible sleep lost while the serving is going on.</p>

	<p>A window seat is better for this strategy because you won&#8217;t be bumped by the cabin crew.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is it the long trip, the time-zone change or a combination of the two that causes one to be completely useless after a trip from the U.S. to Europe?&lt;/i&gt;

As bad jim says, the eastbound pond-hop is always more draining than the westbound: in part because of the necessary scheduling to take off and land during airport opening hours, and in part because of your body clock. And, frankly, hitting Gatwick at 6am after an overnight flight is going to make anyone miserable.

I&#039;ve learned to cope with both, though my early attempts to use melatonin on eastbound hops produced mixed results. Noise-cancelling headphones, on the other hand (or simply monitor-style ones like the Etymotic or Shure earplugs) are definitely recommended, though. And if you have an iPod, stick some binaural beat stuff on it.

I&#039;d also suggest trying to find a place for a warm shower in DC, but I don&#039;t know whether it&#039;s as amenable as, say, Schiphol, which is a great overnighting airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Is it the long trip, the time-zone change or a combination of the two that causes one to be completely useless after a trip from the U.S. to Europe?</i></p>

	<p>As bad jim says, the eastbound pond-hop is always more draining than the westbound: in part because of the necessary scheduling to take off and land during airport opening hours, and in part because of your body clock. And, frankly, hitting Gatwick at 6am after an overnight flight is going to make anyone miserable.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve learned to cope with both, though my early attempts to use melatonin on eastbound hops produced mixed results. Noise-cancelling headphones, on the other hand (or simply monitor-style ones like the Etymotic or Shure earplugs) are definitely recommended, though. And if you have an iPod, stick some binaural beat stuff on it.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;d also suggest trying to find a place for a warm shower in DC, but I don&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s as amenable as, say, Schiphol, which is a great overnighting airport.</p>
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