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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/16/irish-pub-in-a-box/comment-page-2/#comment-169146</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in England, my local brewery refurbished its rather run-down estate of unremarkable watering holes. Interiors were ripped out, each one was tarted up with generic identi-tat and - best of all - received a spanking new outdoor sign proclaiming it to be &quot;Unspoilt By Progress&quot;. 

On Irish pubs, has anyone else noticed that the ersatz Irish pub concept has been so successful that it has now emerged &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irishpubcompany.com/viewPub.asp?ID=359&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in Ireland?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When I lived in England, my local brewery refurbished its rather run-down estate of unremarkable watering holes. Interiors were ripped out, each one was tarted up with generic identi-tat and &#8211; best of all &#8211; received a spanking new outdoor sign proclaiming it to be &#8220;Unspoilt By Progress&#8221;.</p>

	<p>On Irish pubs, has anyone else noticed that the ersatz Irish pub concept has been so successful that it has now emerged <a href="http://www.irishpubcompany.com/viewPub.asp?ID=359" rel="nofollow"> in Ireland?</a></p>
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		<title>By: digamma</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/16/irish-pub-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-169096</link>
		<dc:creator>digamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; The website says the pub will “echo the pathos of rural Ireland to a tee,”&lt;/i&gt;

It would be kind of cool if they had actors posing as pub patrons who would randomly break into Martin MacDonagh dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i> The website says the pub will &#8220;echo the pathos of rural Ireland to a tee,&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>It would be kind of cool if they had actors posing as pub patrons who would randomly break into Martin MacDonagh dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/16/irish-pub-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-169095</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Canadian bars? Are you for real? That’s awesome.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a couple here in Paris - the Moose, near Odéon and the Great Canadian on the river a bit west of Saint Michel.  As described above, they feature lots of ridiculous &quot;Canadian&quot; paraphernalia and sell hamburgers for 15 euros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Canadian bars? Are you for real? That&#8217;s awesome.</i></p>

	<p>There&#8217;s a couple here in Paris &#8211; the Moose, near Od&#233;on and the Great Canadian on the river a bit west of Saint Michel.  As described above, they feature lots of ridiculous &#8220;Canadian&#8221; paraphernalia and sell hamburgers for 15 euros.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, supposedly the Irish pub just outside my new town is the only decent place to drink, atmosphere-wise.  Of course, as it&#039;s not in town, one can&#039;t go and drink there, because, well, drinking and driving aren&#039;t a good combo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, supposedly the Irish pub just outside my new town is the only decent place to drink, atmosphere-wise.  Of course, as it&#8217;s not in town, one can&#8217;t go and drink there, because, well, drinking and driving aren&#8217;t a good combo.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/16/irish-pub-in-a-box/comment-page-1/#comment-169056</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the superpubs in Dublin are up the jaxi with Capital Bars&#039; losses running to 18 million last year. I&#039;ll drink to that. Some of the best new pubs in Dublin now feel like New York bars. Which isn&#039;t a bad thing at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At least the superpubs in Dublin are up the jaxi with Capital Bars&#8217; losses running to 18 million last year. I&#8217;ll drink to that. Some of the best new pubs in Dublin now feel like New York bars. Which isn&#8217;t a bad thing at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I already know Kieran so it&#039;s not truly The Irish Person Thing. Am guessing &#039;c&#039; that you&#039;re not Irish or we could do a demo!

btw Kath is actually my name so no &#039;Kath&#039; necessary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well I already know Kieran so it&#8217;s not truly The Irish Person Thing. Am guessing &#8216;c&#8217; that you&#8217;re not Irish or we could do a demo!</p>

	<p>btw Kath is actually my name so no &#8216;Kath&#8217; necessary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we seeing &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/05/the-irish-person-thing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Irish Person Thing&lt;/a&gt; in action between Kieran and &#039;Kath&#039;?  How very exciting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Are we seeing <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/05/the-irish-person-thing" rel="nofollow">The Irish Person Thing</a> in action between Kieran and &#8216;Kath&#8217;?  How very exciting!</p>
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		<title>By: unclemonty</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclemonty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; How do people ascertain what is located “up” 
&gt; the road and what is “down”?

Surely depends on local conditions. Here in my neighbourhood of Montreal &quot;up&quot; is always the grid direction we call north, though in fact it&#039;s a little on the west side of north-west (and at certain times of the year the sun sets smack in the middle of the &quot;north-south&quot; streets as you cross the road and look north, which is all wrong)... but I digress. When giving directions you say &quot;above&quot; or &quot;below&quot; to mean north or south of, so for example you might say &quot;it&#039;s on St.Denis just below Laurier&quot;, or &quot;you&#039;ll have to drive up to Duluth, over to Berri then come back down half a block&quot;.

I think it got that way because the prevailing slope is slightly uphill as you head north, because of the presence of the mountain - but even once you get so far north that you&#039;ve passed the mountain, people in my experience still refer to &quot;up&quot; and &quot;down&quot; in the same consistent way. When a friend who hadn&#039;t been here long was using &quot;up&quot; and &quot;down&quot; indiscriminately, it was most confusing - I hadn&#039;t realised how strong the tendency was till I heard someone misusing it!

Best non-traditional poutine around here is at Patati-patata on St.Laurent just below Rachel, where they have peppers and onions and mushrooms in the mix. But they do use the right kind of cheese! (you know it&#039;s right when it squeaks.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>> How do people ascertain what is located &#8220;up&#8221;<br />
> the road and what is &#8220;down&#8221;?</p>

	<p>Surely depends on local conditions. Here in my neighbourhood of Montreal &#8220;up&#8221; is always the grid direction we call north, though in fact it&#8217;s a little on the west side of north-west (and at certain times of the year the sun sets smack in the middle of the &#8220;north-south&#8221; streets as you cross the road and look north, which is all wrong)&#8230; but I digress. When giving directions you say &#8220;above&#8221; or &#8220;below&#8221; to mean north or south of, so for example you might say &#8220;it&#8217;s on St.Denis just below Laurier&#8221;, or &#8220;you&#8217;ll have to drive up to Duluth, over to Berri then come back down half a block&#8221;.</p>

	<p>I think it got that way because the prevailing slope is slightly uphill as you head north, because of the presence of the mountain &#8211; but even once you get so far north that you&#8217;ve passed the mountain, people in my experience still refer to &#8220;up&#8221; and &#8220;down&#8221; in the same consistent way. When a friend who hadn&#8217;t been here long was using &#8220;up&#8221; and &#8220;down&#8221; indiscriminately, it was most confusing &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t realised how strong the tendency was till I heard someone misusing it!</p>

	<p>Best non-traditional poutine around here is at Patati-patata on St.Laurent just below Rachel, where they have peppers and onions and mushrooms in the mix. But they do use the right kind of cheese! (you know it&#8217;s right when it squeaks.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yip. How&#039;s tricks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yip. How&#8217;s tricks?</p>
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		<title>By: Xero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought the key to pouring stout properly is &quot;In a glass.&quot;  I mean cold or room temperature, either way it&#039;s good, and other than that it&#039;s pretty hard to screw up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I always thought the key to pouring stout properly is &#8220;In a glass.&#8221;  I mean cold or room temperature, either way it&#8217;s good, and other than that it&#8217;s pretty hard to screw up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in a number of Irish pubs in the US and most of them have little if any connection to real Irish pubs in Ireland.  I&#039;ve been in real Irish pubs in Ireland.  Most of the ones in the US have too damn many tvs to be real Irish pubs.  Though there are a couple here in Seattle which aren&#039;t too bad.  (I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever been in a major city in the US that &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; have an Irish pub or two.)

MKK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve been in a number of Irish pubs in the US and most of them have little if any connection to real Irish pubs in Ireland.  I&#8217;ve been in real Irish pubs in Ireland.  Most of the ones in the US have too damn many tvs to be real Irish pubs.  Though there are a couple here in Seattle which aren&#8217;t too bad.  (I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever been in a major city in the US that <i>didn&#8217;t</i> have an Irish pub or two.)</p>

	<p><span class="caps">MKK</span></p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot to mention - the Thirsty Scholar has chips and curry (or &#039;curry fries&#039; as they call them). That in itself redeems the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, I forgot to mention &#8211; the Thirsty Scholar has chips and curry (or &#8216;curry fries&#8217; as they call them). That in itself redeems the place.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I steered well clear of the Irish pub in Riga -- which was very popular, and patronised (it appeared) primarilly by Aussie tourists. Which was just depressing, really.
Alas, I know Grafton Street well -- I&#039;d never have guessed its supposed to be &#039;Irish&#039;. If I want a fake Irish bar I go to the Thirsty Scholar (or is it fake? Perhaps most pubs in Ireland have pictures of Joyce and Beckett in them? After all, nothing enhances a drinking experience like the smiling face of -- Samuel Beckett).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I steered well clear of the Irish pub in Riga&#8212;which was very popular, and patronised (it appeared) primarilly by Aussie tourists. Which was just depressing, really.<br />
Alas, I know Grafton Street well&#8212;I&#8217;d never have guessed its supposed to be &#8216;Irish&#8217;. If I want a fake Irish bar I go to the Thirsty Scholar (or is it fake? Perhaps most pubs in Ireland have pictures of Joyce and Beckett in them? After all, nothing enhances a drinking experience like the smiling face of&#8212;Samuel Beckett).</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kath = Katherine Stynes?</description>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a period of time, I lived in Sunnyside, Queens and spent a lot of time in American bars filled only with Irish guys.  It was the late 80s and a lot Irish were in the city at the time.  The guys from different areas of Ireland congregated in different bars and all played soccer on the weekend.  Yeah, they knew how to pour a proper pint.  And, my girl friends and I really enjoyed being the only females in these bars.  Free beer for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For a period of time, I lived in Sunnyside, Queens and spent a lot of time in American bars filled only with Irish guys.  It was the late 80s and a lot Irish were in the city at the time.  The guys from different areas of Ireland congregated in different bars and all played soccer on the weekend.  Yeah, they knew how to pour a proper pint.  And, my girl friends and I really enjoyed being the only females in these bars.  Free beer for us.</p>
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