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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-2/#comment-170762</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs iPods? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33642&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have an iPod &lt;i&gt;in my mind&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Who needs iPods? <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33642" rel="nofollow">I have an iPod <i>in my mind</i>.</a></p>
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		<title>By: rupes</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170595</link>
		<dc:creator>rupes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that my iPOD is one of the few things I own that I am actively pleased by. It does exactly what it is supposed to, with no problems and is easy to use.

I wish my other purchases (laptop, WiFi AP, mobile, etc) were as simply satisfactory.

I just bought my wifre a nano as present.

(OK, I appreciate that your experiences aren&#039;t good. Sorry)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have to say that my iPOD is one of the few things I own that I am actively pleased by. It does exactly what it is supposed to, with no problems and is easy to use.</p>

	<p>I wish my other purchases (laptop, WiFi AP, mobile, etc) were as simply satisfactory.</p>

	<p>I just bought my wifre a nano as present.</p>

	<p>(OK, I appreciate that your experiences aren&#8217;t good. Sorry)</p>
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		<title>By: hilker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170524</link>
		<dc:creator>hilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get the nano. Avoid iTunes control-freak closed standards by installing and running &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockbox.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rockbox&lt;/a&gt; instead of the Apple firmware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Get the nano. Avoid iTunes control-freak closed standards by installing and running <a href="http://www.rockbox.org/" rel="nofollow">Rockbox</a> instead of the Apple firmware.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170510</link>
		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sing alot, and in public, I hum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just sing alot, and in public, I hum.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Miller</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would strongly encourage you to check out the iAudio&#039;s as well, they are made by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cowonamerica.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cowon America&lt;/a&gt;.  I have had one for a couple of years now and am very impressed by the build quality and the simple usb-hard-drive nature of the device.  Also worth noting is that at a similar size/price to the ipods it includes an FM radio and a full 35 hours of battery life (both their claims and my tests--WAY better than anything else on the market).  That fact in itself makes them a cut above in my book.

Also of note is that your heat issue was almost certainly caused by a short in the battery (similar to the high-profile problems with laptops of late), rather than anything to do with the hard drive.  Flash drives are slightly more drop-resistant, but they aren&#039;t any less likely to have your heating problem, and they obviously don&#039;t have nearly the capacity per price.  But give Cowon&#039;s iAudio a try or at least look at the website; you won&#039;t be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would strongly encourage you to check out the iAudio&#8217;s as well, they are made by <a href="http://www.cowonamerica.com/" rel="nofollow">Cowon America</a>.  I have had one for a couple of years now and am very impressed by the build quality and the simple usb-hard-drive nature of the device.  Also worth noting is that at a similar size/price to the ipods it includes an FM radio and a full 35 hours of battery life (both their claims and my tests&#8212;WAY better than anything else on the market).  That fact in itself makes them a cut above in my book.</p>

	<p>Also of note is that your heat issue was almost certainly caused by a short in the battery (similar to the high-profile problems with laptops of late), rather than anything to do with the hard drive.  Flash drives are slightly more drop-resistant, but they aren&#8217;t any less likely to have your heating problem, and they obviously don&#8217;t have nearly the capacity per price.  But give Cowon&#8217;s iAudio a try or at least look at the website; you won&#8217;t be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ender</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170470</link>
		<dc:creator>Ender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use my iPAQ PDA for just about everything.  I just have a 1G SD card for music and and 128MB SD card for podcasts.  I am buying a 4G card soon.

The huge advantage of a PDA is that is can contain your contacts etc synched with Outlook.  I also have news synched with Avantgo, eBooks with MS Reader and videos from my digital video recorder with Core TCMP player.

I have had it for 2 years without a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I use my iPAQ <span class="caps">PDA</span> for just about everything.  I just have a 1G SD card for music and and 128MB SD card for podcasts.  I am buying a 4G card soon.</p>

	<p>The huge advantage of a <span class="caps">PDA</span> is that is can contain your contacts etc synched with Outlook.  I also have news synched with Avantgo, eBooks with <span class="caps">MS </span>Reader and videos from my digital video recorder with Core <span class="caps">TCMP</span> player.</p>

	<p>I have had it for 2 years without a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Maynard Handley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170454</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;
While the ugly DRM and relative low quality of iTunes Music Store isn’t relevant in this thread per se, it’s certainly an issue in terms of why iPods are so all-pervasive despite being crummy: once someone’s bought into the iTMS by purchasing their DRM’d files, they are effectively locked into using iPods or losing those purchases.
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Proof?
As I have stated many times before, I use my iPod nano for one specific purpose, which is to listen to spoken word content (freely available lectures). Nothing is superior to the iPod in this respect; and the only way iTMS affects my life is that it is a repository for some of these (free, non-DRMd) lectures. You&#039;d think producing a decent spoken word player would not be a difficult job, and if MS, Sony, Rio, San, etc could ever get their act together enough to do so, I would switch. But iPod has been out for, what, 5 years now, and, in all that time, these companies have still not figured out what the hell they are doing.

We have far too much IP legislation based on vague, non-evidenc-based claims about what is necessary to incentivize companies and individuals. We don&#039;t now need vague,,, non-evidence based claims from the opposition.

Finally you lost one iPod, which can hardly be held against Apple. As for those that died, the fact is that these small hard drives are fragile damn things. This is a condition of the technology right now, and since the same hard drives (made by people like Toshiba and NEC, not by Apple or Zen) are used in all these devices, you&#039;re not upping your chances of a long life by switching to another vendor. Flash should be more robust and, of course, at some indeterminate point in the future, hard drives will be archaic; perhaps if you are very active with your iPod the smart thing to do is give up on a hard drive and create a playlist of your favorite material appropriate for a nano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8221;<br />
While the ugly <span class="caps">DRM</span> and relative low quality of iTunes Music Store isn&#8217;t relevant in this thread per se, it&#8217;s certainly an issue in terms of why iPods are so all-pervasive despite being crummy: once someone&#8217;s bought into the iTMS by purchasing their <span class="caps">DRM</span>&#8217;d files, they are effectively locked into using iPods or losing those purchases.<br />
&#8221;</p>

	<p>Proof?<br />
As I have stated many times before, I use my iPod nano for one specific purpose, which is to listen to spoken word content (freely available lectures). Nothing is superior to the iPod in this respect; and the only way iTMS affects my life is that it is a repository for some of these (free, non-DRMd) lectures. You&#8217;d think producing a decent spoken word player would not be a difficult job, and if MS, Sony, Rio, San, etc could ever get their act together enough to do so, I would switch. But iPod has been out for, what, 5 years now, and, in all that time, these companies have still not figured out what the hell they are doing.</p>

	<p>We have far too much IP legislation based on vague, non-evidenc-based claims about what is necessary to incentivize companies and individuals. We don&#8217;t now need vague,,, non-evidence based claims from the opposition.</p>

	<p>Finally you lost one iPod, which can hardly be held against Apple. As for those that died, the fact is that these small hard drives are fragile damn things. This is a condition of the technology right now, and since the same hard drives (made by people like Toshiba and <span class="caps">NEC</span>, not by Apple or Zen) are used in all these devices, you&#8217;re not upping your chances of a long life by switching to another vendor. Flash should be more robust and, of course, at some indeterminate point in the future, hard drives will be archaic; perhaps if you are very active with your iPod the smart thing to do is give up on a hard drive and create a playlist of your favorite material appropriate for a nano.</p>
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		<title>By: Thlayli</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170451</link>
		<dc:creator>Thlayli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;... even the iTMS DRMed stuff can be converted into DRM-free files quite at the cost of a little time by burning to a CD and re-ripping.&lt;/i&gt;

Repeating for emphasis, for all the people who are whining about DRM.  This method has been common knowledge on the tubes for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230; even the iTMS DRMed stuff can be converted into <span class="caps">DRM</span>-free files quite at the cost of a little time by burning to a CD and re-ripping.</i></p>

	<p>Repeating for emphasis, for all the people who are whining about <span class="caps">DRM</span>.  This method has been common knowledge on the tubes for years.</p>
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		<title>By: John I</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170445</link>
		<dc:creator>John I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If either my wife&#039;s or my three year old 20G ipods die, I&#039;ll replace them with a cheaper flash-based ipod like a 1G nano.  I had a revelation recently that you don&#039;t need a giant delicate hard drive-based player with your whole mp3 collection on it all the time.  Just use the smart paylists in iTunes to load a random sample of your collection every time you synch. You can set it up to load tunes you haven&#039;t heard in a while, or have never been played. And maybe a seperate playlist of must-have items like works-in-progress, or demos (if you&#039;re a musician).

I&#039;va also never bought a tune from the itunes store so DRM is not an issue for me.  I do like the convenience of itunes playlist management.  Who wants to add tags and sort mp3&#039;s by hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If either my wife&#8217;s or my three year old 20G ipods die, I&#8217;ll replace them with a cheaper flash-based ipod like a 1G nano.  I had a revelation recently that you don&#8217;t need a giant delicate hard drive-based player with your whole mp3 collection on it all the time.  Just use the smart paylists in iTunes to load a random sample of your collection every time you synch. You can set it up to load tunes you haven&#8217;t heard in a while, or have never been played. And maybe a seperate playlist of must-have items like works-in-progress, or demos (if you&#8217;re a musician).</p>

	<p>I&#8217;va also never bought a tune from the itunes store so <span class="caps">DRM</span> is not an issue for me.  I do like the convenience of itunes playlist management.  Who wants to add tags and sort mp3&#8217;s by hand?</p>
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		<title>By: hinglemarr</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170442</link>
		<dc:creator>hinglemarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Maria should stay away from technology. :)

I have a 4GB Nano so I was forced to use iTunes but I&#039;m over it. By default iTunes wants to be your &quot;master of the music universe&quot; but you can turn that junk off and then it&#039;s just an almost cool music database. With some other music players you&#039;re forced to use Windows Media Player so it&#039;s always something. Managing thousands of songs takes work and that means learning the ins and outs of various music managers. So if you want to listen to your music your way then you have to do the work.

If it dies I&#039;ll probably go the satellite radio route and avoid the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maybe Maria should stay away from technology. :)</p>

	<p>I have a 4GB Nano so I was forced to use iTunes but I&#8217;m over it. By default iTunes wants to be your &#8220;master of the music universe&#8221; but you can turn that junk off and then it&#8217;s just an almost cool music database. With some other music players you&#8217;re forced to use Windows Media Player so it&#8217;s always something. Managing thousands of songs takes work and that means learning the ins and outs of various music managers. So if you want to listen to your music your way then you have to do the work.</p>

	<p>If it dies I&#8217;ll probably go the satellite radio route and avoid the work.</p>
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		<title>By: George Williams</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170440</link>
		<dc:creator>George Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to get your music off your iPod and back onto your computer, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fadingred.org/senuti/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senuti&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you want to get your music off your iPod and back onto your computer, try <a href="http://www.fadingred.org/senuti/" rel="nofollow">Senuti</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170436</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; 37: The website Macintouch did a survey on iPod realiability back in November 2005. (Warning from a Methods 101 teacher: Self-selection problem, etc, etc). Maybe that was the survey, FT based its story on?

Anyway: It&#039;s still available on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/ipodfailures.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Macintouch&#039;s homepage&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, and by the way: My iPod (Dock connector, 20 GB) is approaching its third birthday with no major problems. I had to change the battery, though, earlier this year.

The good news is that even someone as un-handy as I can perform the operation provided she or he is equipped with the right tools and a little bit of patience. Why pay Apple 50€ for something you can do in 10 minutes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>-> 37: The website Macintouch did a survey on iPod realiability back in November 2005. (Warning from a Methods 101 teacher: Self-selection problem, etc, etc). Maybe that was the survey, FT based its story on?</p>

	<p>Anyway: It&#8217;s still available on <a href="http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/ipodfailures.html" rel="nofollow">Macintouch&#8217;s homepage</a>.</p>

	<p>Oh, and by the way: My iPod (Dock connector, 20 GB) is approaching its third birthday with no major problems. I had to change the battery, though, earlier this year.</p>

	<p>The good news is that even someone as un-handy as I can perform the operation provided she or he is equipped with the right tools and a little bit of patience. Why pay Apple 50&#8364; for something you can do in 10 minutes?</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you dig up the URL, please post it. I&#039;d like to see that FT article. Those rates are ridiculously high. What time period are they looking at? 6 months, 12 months, 5 years? And is there any data on the causes for the drive failures? Apple, unfortunately, does not reveal this kind of data so whoever makes a claim as to failure rates is using an indirect method of collecting data.

One point to keep in mind as well: The drives inside these devices are made by a few manufacturers. It wouldn&#039;t be surprising that Apple, River, Samsung, and Creative have used identical model drives inside their devices at different points in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you dig up the <span class="caps">URL</span>, please post it. I&#8217;d like to see that FT article. Those rates are ridiculously high. What time period are they looking at? 6 months, 12 months, 5 years? And is there any data on the causes for the drive failures? Apple, unfortunately, does not reveal this kind of data so whoever makes a claim as to failure rates is using an indirect method of collecting data.</p>

	<p>One point to keep in mind as well: The drives inside these devices are made by a few manufacturers. It wouldn&#8217;t be surprising that Apple, River, Samsung, and Creative have used identical model drives inside their devices at different points in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/08/30/diepod-iii-die-harder/comment-page-1/#comment-170429</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Creative Zen Touch 40GB player. It&#039;s a little clunky, but durable, keeps a charge for a long time and it&#039;s storage is stunning. I have 6,500+ tunes with 11GB still available ripped at 128K.

I also have a 10GB Nomad Jukebox that&#039;s three years old and still works fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have a Creative Zen Touch 40GB player. It&#8217;s a little clunky, but durable, keeps a charge for a long time and it&#8217;s storage is stunning. I have 6,500+ tunes with 11GB still available ripped at 128K.</p>

	<p>I also have a 10GB Nomad Jukebox that&#8217;s three years old and still works fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Steven. Actually, I saw an article in the Financial Times 2 weeks ago that quoted an independent study of ipods, and concluded 29.8 % of one model (could have been the 20gig clickwheel) had faulty hard drives. For nanos, it was about 19%. But on searching the FT site today, I couldn&#039;t find it. And that one was only on ipods. Pretty shocking figures, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Steven. Actually, I saw an article in the Financial Times 2 weeks ago that quoted an independent study of ipods, and concluded 29.8 % of one model (could have been the 20gig clickwheel) had faulty hard drives. For nanos, it was about 19%. But on searching the FT site today, I couldn&#8217;t find it. And that one was only on ipods. Pretty shocking figures, though.</p>
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