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		<title>By: BlacquesJacquesShellacques</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172738</link>
		<dc:creator>BlacquesJacquesShellacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert, you tell me JunkScience is no good. I fear your response is mostly logical fallacies. Not a good start to an discussion in which logic should rule.

Your response to me starts with the false premise that I take JunkScience.com seriously. Why would you think that? They are a starting point only which you are free to demolish.

You also say &quot;Most of the points in their DDTfaq are misleading, untrue, or poorly reasoned.&quot; This is &quot;Begging the question&quot;; it still does not tell me why JunkScience is wrong or where I may find correct information and analysis.

I read Lambert&#039;s stuff and just did not find anything substantive. It&#039;s full of &quot;Appeal to Belief&quot; and more question begging. 

So far the DDT use side wins handily by default. I&#039;m gonna buy me a can and put it on my corn flakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Albert, you tell me JunkScience is no good. I fear your response is mostly logical fallacies. Not a good start to an discussion in which logic should rule.</p>

	<p>Your response to me starts with the false premise that I take JunkScience.com seriously. Why would you think that? They are a starting point only which you are free to demolish.</p>

	<p>You also say &#8220;Most of the points in their DDTfaq are misleading, untrue, or poorly reasoned.&#8221; This is &#8220;Begging the question&#8221;; it still does not tell me why JunkScience is wrong or where I may find correct information and analysis.</p>

	<p>I read Lambert&#8217;s stuff and just did not find anything substantive. It&#8217;s full of &#8220;Appeal to Belief&#8221; and more question begging.</p>

	<p>So far the <span class="caps">DDT</span> use side wins handily by default. I&#8217;m gonna buy me a can and put it on my corn flakes.</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172597</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you&#039;re taking the claims of junkscience.com seriously, then there&#039;s little chance of an informed debate.  Most of the points in their DDTfaq are misleading, untrue, or poorly reasoned.  The section on &quot;Bird populations increase during DDT years&quot; shows no understanding of how DDT works in the environment.  Most of their arguments are attempts to disprove a strawmanned claim with discussion of exceptional cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And if you&#8217;re taking the claims of junkscience.com seriously, then there&#8217;s little chance of an informed debate.  Most of the points in their DDTfaq are misleading, untrue, or poorly reasoned.  The section on &#8220;Bird populations increase during <span class="caps">DDT</span> years&#8221; shows no understanding of how <span class="caps">DDT</span> works in the environment.  Most of their arguments are attempts to disprove a strawmanned claim with discussion of exceptional cases.</p>
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		<title>By: mikep</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172538</link>
		<dc:creator>mikep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu might like to consider this story from East Africa.  Note that it&#039;s producer interests (including tobacco interests) who are in favour of a DDT ban.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200609181081.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>YOu might like to consider this story from East Africa.  Note that it&#8217;s producer interests (including tobacco interests) who are in favour of a <span class="caps">DDT</span> ban.</p>

	<p><a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200609181081.html" rel="nofollow">http://allafrica.com/stories/200609181081.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172508</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you rely on Tim Lambert as a source of information on the use of DDT in the fight against malaria you will be well and truly &lt;a href=&quot;http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2006/07/ddt-expert-debunked.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;misinformed&lt;/a&gt; – if you click that link you&#039;ll find that none of the links to Lambert&#039;s old blog work because he continues to bounce them. (He also bars me from commenting at his current blog because he knows damn near everything he writes about DDT is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=lambert+ddt+site%3Arwdb.blogspot.com&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;misleading nonsense&lt;/a&gt;.) Play Lambert&#039;s much-hyped &lt;a href=&quot;http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2006/04/tim-lambert-disseminator-of_20.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;DDT ban myth bingo&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and see for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you rely on Tim Lambert as a source of information on the use of <span class="caps">DDT</span> in the fight against malaria you will be well and truly <a href="http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2006/07/ddt-expert-debunked.html" rel="nofollow">misinformed</a> &#8211; if you click that link you&#8217;ll find that none of the links to Lambert&#8217;s old blog work because he continues to bounce them. (He also bars me from commenting at his current blog because he knows damn near everything he writes about <span class="caps">DDT</span> is <a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=lambert+ddt+site%3Arwdb.blogspot.com&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow">misleading nonsense</a>.) Play Lambert&#8217;s much-hyped <a href="http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2006/04/tim-lambert-disseminator-of_20.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;DDT ban myth bingo&#8221;</a> and see for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172496</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10:

&lt;i&gt;Point me to a source or a website please.&lt;/i&gt;

Go to scholar.google.com, search for &quot;DDT&quot; in publication &quot;Science&quot; or &quot;Nature&quot; then read until heart&#039;s content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#10:</p>

	<p><i>Point me to a source or a website please.</i></p>

	<p>Go to scholar.google.com, search for &#8220;DDT&#8221; in publication &#8220;Science&#8221; or &#8220;Nature&#8221; then read until heart&#8217;s content.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172494</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not a matter of the left saying DDT should be banned versus the right saying it shouldn&#039;t, rather it is a case of certain people saying that it shouldn&#039;t be banned even though it isn&#039;t (well, not for indoor spraying, agricultural spraying is a different matter and is where the shells issue comes in, and also this can increase the chances of mosquitoes developing resistance). This is why you are not finding reasons why it ought to be banned for indoor spraying, however you will find plenty of arguments for considering other options in particular circumstances since DDT is not always the most effective one.  
Tim Lambert does link to numerous scientific sources about DDT. The reason that you find so much politics rather than science is that this is usually stirred up as an issue for political rather than scientific reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It is not a matter of the left saying <span class="caps">DDT</span> should be banned versus the right saying it shouldn&#8217;t, rather it is a case of certain people saying that it shouldn&#8217;t be banned even though it isn&#8217;t (well, not for indoor spraying, agricultural spraying is a different matter and is where the shells issue comes in, and also this can increase the chances of mosquitoes developing resistance). This is why you are not finding reasons why it ought to be banned for indoor spraying, however you will find plenty of arguments for considering other options in particular circumstances since <span class="caps">DDT</span> is not always the most effective one.<br />
Tim Lambert does link to numerous scientific sources about <span class="caps">DDT</span>. The reason that you find so much politics rather than science is that this is usually stirred up as an issue for political rather than scientific reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: BlacquesJacquesShellacques</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172477</link>
		<dc:creator>BlacquesJacquesShellacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lefites, help me here. I went to some of the suggested sites and found lots of stuff about who said what to whom about DDT use and the politics thereof and why it was bollocks. Which it usually was, and highly self referential too. But none of it was the factual and/or research underpinning for the proposition that DDT is a pollutant, that it is a carcinogen, that it thins the little birdies shells, and oughta be banned yadda yadda.

I went to http://junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm and got reams of stuff to the effect that DDT is not carcinogenic or a pollutant in any reasonable concentration. Are they wrong? If so why and how? Point me to a source or a website please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lefites, help me here. I went to some of the suggested sites and found lots of stuff about who said what to whom about <span class="caps">DDT</span> use and the politics thereof and why it was bollocks. Which it usually was, and highly self referential too. But none of it was the factual and/or research underpinning for the proposition that <span class="caps">DDT</span> is a pollutant, that it is a carcinogen, that it thins the little birdies shells, and oughta be banned yadda yadda.</p>

	<p>I went to <a href="http://junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm" rel="nofollow">http://junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm</a> and got reams of stuff to the effect that <span class="caps">DDT</span> is not carcinogenic or a pollutant in any reasonable concentration. Are they wrong? If so why and how? Point me to a source or a website please.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172443</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is wrong with the argument is that Roberts does not tell you that Sri Lanka was forced to switch from spraying DDT to using malathion because the mosquitoes developed resistance.  He then cherry picks a period from when they were using DDT and malaria rates were low and compares it with a period after they switched to malathion when malaria rates were high (because the civil war had disrupted the spraying program).  And then argues that stopping DDT caused the rates to go up.  And he gets the rates wrong in his comparison, making an error of about an order of magnitude in his favour.  If you compare the five years up to 1975 (when they stopped using DDT) with the five years after, you&#039;ll discover that rates went down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What is wrong with the argument is that Roberts does not tell you that Sri Lanka was forced to switch from spraying <span class="caps">DDT</span> to using malathion because the mosquitoes developed resistance.  He then cherry picks a period from when they were using <span class="caps">DDT</span> and malaria rates were low and compares it with a period after they switched to malathion when malaria rates were high (because the civil war had disrupted the spraying program).  And then argues that stopping <span class="caps">DDT</span> caused the rates to go up.  And he gets the rates wrong in his comparison, making an error of about an order of magnitude in his favour.  If you compare the five years up to 1975 (when they stopped using <span class="caps">DDT</span>) with the five years after, you&#8217;ll discover that rates went down.</p>
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		<title>By: mikep</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172434</link>
		<dc:creator>mikep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following this debate and must say that I find the arguments of the those who say that indoor residual spraying with DDT is cheap and effective against malaria and that there has been considerable internatinal pressure not to use DDT convincing. Try this link 

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/Roberts%20-%20Senate%20testimony%20-%20malaria.pdf

and tell me what is wrong with the argument and I might change my mind.  But Tim Lambert is not convincing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have been following this debate and must say that I find the arguments of the those who say that indoor residual spraying with <span class="caps">DDT</span> is cheap and effective against malaria and that there has been considerable internatinal pressure not to use <span class="caps">DDT</span> convincing. Try this link</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.eco-imperialism.com/Roberts%20-%20Senate%20testimony%20-%20malaria.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.eco-imperialism.com/Roberts%20-%20Senate%20testimony%20-%20malaria.pdf</a></p>

	<p>and tell me what is wrong with the argument and I might change my mind.  But Tim Lambert is not convincing.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info. It is misleading, though, to rail against conservatives about this misinformation. DDT was the most famous/infamous environmental issue for a long time. My current issue of National Geographic states that it was essentially banned word-wide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the info. It is misleading, though, to rail against conservatives about this misinformation. <span class="caps">DDT</span> was the most famous/infamous environmental issue for a long time. My current issue of National Geographic states that it was essentially banned word-wide.</p>
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		<title>By: rdb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172373</link>
		<dc:creator>rdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/ddt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deltoid&#039;s  DDT category&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/06/the_ddt_ban_myth_that_will_not.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Deltoid: DDT Ban myth that will not die&lt;/a&gt; 2006-06-29
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He (Kochi) got his way and now he&#039;s working on other areas:
&lt;b&gt;
    For example, he wants to standardize mosquito nets so that, instead of a welter of competing styles that must be home-dunked in pesticide, a few makers of factory-coated nets, which kill insects for years longer, are left to compete on price. He dismisses &quot;social marketing,&quot; in which nets are branded and sold cheaply instead of being given away, as with an early Bush administration policy that flopped. And, despite the objections of environmentalists, he wants DDT sprayed inside huts to kill mosquitoes where they rest on walls as they wait for dark.
&lt;/b&gt;
Do you think this will stop folks from claiming that the WHO opposes DDT use?

Also, in the Washington Monthly Joshua Kurlantzick &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.kurlantzick.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;argues&lt;/a&gt; that the DDT obsession of many conservatives is a distraction from the use of artemisinin combination therapy (ACT):
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    Oddly, malaria has become something of a conservative cause celebre in recent years. Sen. Brownback has become a dedicated advocate for combating the disease. At congressional hearings, he and fellow Republican Sen. Coburn display an impressive knowledge of the crisis and the deficiencies of USAID&#039;s response. However, apart from a few such thoughtful exceptions, conservative energies have mostly been focused on another supposed solution: the insecticide DDT.

    DDT, which helps kill malarial mosquitoes, was sprayed in America to eradicate malaria. But Rachel Carson&#039;s vivid portrayal of the horrors wrought by the chemical in her seminal book Silent Spring caused DDT to be banned in 1972, and helped launch the modern environmental movement. For some conservatives, malaria policy has now become an unlikely tool in the anti-environmentalist backlash. The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal editorial page, and National Review have dedicated more than 10 editorials in recent years touting the benefits of DDT (although some conservatives like Bate, Brownback, and Coburn do advocate both DDT and ACT). At malaria hearings for the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Republican members have repeatedly asked why the United States doesn&#039;t promote DDT in malaria-stricken nations.

    This preoccupation with DDT, however, is largely a distraction. Environmental leaders now agree that the pesticide should be used to combat malaria; few nations in Africa ban it; and USAID has agreed to spray DDT in countries like Ethiopia and Mozambique. What&#039;s more, DDT is no silver bullet. Malaria experts agree that it reduces transmission, but emphasize that it must be combined with other interventions, including ACT. The furor over DDT has undoubtedly hampered efforts to provide better access to antimalarial drugs. When another malaria expert met with Senate staffers to discuss malaria in 2004 and 2005, they badgered him about DDT. &quot;I tried to explain the reality,&quot; he says, &quot;and people in the U.S. say &#039;That&#039;s not what I was told.&#039;&quot; &quot;DDT has become a fetish,&quot; adds Allan Schapira of WHO. &quot;You have people advocating DDT as if it&#039;s the only insecticide that works against malaria, as if DDT would solve all problems, which is obviously absolutely unrealistic.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/ddt/" rel="nofollow">Deltoid&#8217;s  <span class="caps">DDT</span> category</a></p>

	<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/06/the_ddt_ban_myth_that_will_not.php" rel="nofollow">The Deltoid: <span class="caps">DDT </span>Ban myth that will not die</a> 2006-06-29<br />
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	<p>He (Kochi) got his way and now he&#8217;s working on other areas:<br />
<b><br />
For example, he wants to standardize mosquito nets so that, instead of a welter of competing styles that must be home-dunked in pesticide, a few makers of factory-coated nets, which kill insects for years longer, are left to compete on price. He dismisses &#8220;social marketing,&#8221; in which nets are branded and sold cheaply instead of being given away, as with an early Bush administration policy that flopped. And, despite the objections of environmentalists, he wants <span class="caps">DDT</span> sprayed inside huts to kill mosquitoes where they rest on walls as they wait for dark.<br />
</b><br />
Do you think this will stop folks from claiming that the <span class="caps">WHO</span> opposes <span class="caps">DDT</span> use?</p>

	<p>Also, in the Washington Monthly Joshua Kurlantzick <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.kurlantzick.html" rel="nofollow">argues</a> that the <span class="caps">DDT</span> obsession of many conservatives is a distraction from the use of artemisinin combination therapy (ACT):<br />
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Oddly, malaria has become something of a conservative cause celebre in recent years. Sen. Brownback has become a dedicated advocate for combating the disease. At congressional hearings, he and fellow Republican Sen. Coburn display an impressive knowledge of the crisis and the deficiencies of <span class="caps">USAID</span>&#8217;s response. However, apart from a few such thoughtful exceptions, conservative energies have mostly been focused on another supposed solution: the insecticide <span class="caps">DDT</span>.</b></p>

	<p><span class="caps">DDT</span>, which helps kill malarial mosquitoes, was sprayed in America to eradicate malaria. But Rachel Carson&#8217;s vivid portrayal of the horrors wrought by the chemical in her seminal book Silent Spring caused <span class="caps">DDT</span> to be banned in 1972, and helped launch the modern environmental movement. For some conservatives, malaria policy has now become an unlikely tool in the anti-environmentalist backlash. The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal editorial page, and National Review have dedicated more than 10 editorials in recent years touting the benefits of <span class="caps">DDT </span>(although some conservatives like Bate, Brownback, and Coburn do advocate both <span class="caps">DDT</span> and <span class="caps">ACT</span>). At malaria hearings for the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Republican members have repeatedly asked why the United States doesn&#8217;t promote <span class="caps">DDT</span> in malaria-stricken nations.</p>

	<p>This preoccupation with <span class="caps">DDT</span>, however, is largely a distraction. Environmental leaders now agree that the pesticide should be used to combat malaria; few nations in Africa ban it; and <span class="caps">USAID</span> has agreed to spray <span class="caps">DDT</span> in countries like Ethiopia and Mozambique. What&#8217;s more, <span class="caps">DDT</span> is no silver bullet. Malaria experts agree that it reduces transmission, but emphasize that it must be combined with other interventions, including <span class="caps">ACT</span>. The furor over <span class="caps">DDT</span> has undoubtedly hampered efforts to provide better access to antimalarial drugs. When another malaria expert met with Senate staffers to discuss malaria in 2004 and 2005, they badgered him about <span class="caps">DDT</span>. &#8220;I tried to explain the reality,&#8221; he says, &#8220;and people in the U.S. say &#8216;That&#8217;s not what I was told.&#8217;&#8221; &#8220;DDT has become a fetish,&#8221; adds Allan Schapira of <span class="caps">WHO</span>. &#8220;You have people advocating <span class="caps">DDT</span> as if it&#8217;s the only insecticide that works against malaria, as if <span class="caps">DDT</span> would solve all problems, which is obviously absolutely unrealistic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted, Tim Lambert has plenty, or you can visit my site and search for &quot;DDT&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As noted, Tim Lambert has plenty, or you can visit my site and search for &#8220;DDT&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BlacquesJacquesShellacques</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172353</link>
		<dc:creator>BlacquesJacquesShellacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how about a link to DDT site that tells the truth and demolishes the evil Bushitler Rethuglican MCChimpy Hallibrutes?

The abiding weakness of the left is the lust for power. I expect lefties to want to control, manage and ban harmless chemicals simply from that lust.

The abiding weakness of the right is the lust for money. I also expect righties to sell me poison for my corn flakes just to make a buck.

Let&#039;s have some debate. All I&#039;ve ever read are the righties and they sound mighty plausible. Point me to some good lefty sites and I&#039;ll read with an open mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So how about a link to <span class="caps">DDT</span> site that tells the truth and demolishes the evil Bushitler Rethuglican MCChimpy Hallibrutes?</p>

	<p>The abiding weakness of the left is the lust for power. I expect lefties to want to control, manage and ban harmless chemicals simply from that lust.</p>

	<p>The abiding weakness of the right is the lust for money. I also expect righties to sell me poison for my corn flakes just to make a buck.</p>

	<p>Let&#8217;s have some debate. All I&#8217;ve ever read are the righties and they sound mighty plausible. Point me to some good lefty sites and I&#8217;ll read with an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172322</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, go to Tim Lambert&#039;s blog (linked from CT), an d look in the category &#039;DDT&#039;.  You&#039;ll find links to a number of right-wingers disseminating falsehoods about DDT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Keith, go to Tim Lambert&#8217;s blog (linked from CT), an d look in the category &#8216;DDT&#8217;.  You&#8217;ll find links to a number of right-wingers disseminating falsehoods about <span class="caps">DDT</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/09/18/the-science-and-politics-of-ddt/comment-page-1/#comment-172305</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bogus story, popular in rightwing circles, in which the US ban on agricultural use of DDT, inspired by Rachel Carson, is morphed into a global ban on DDT, bringing to an end a previously successful compaign to eradicate malaria&quot;

Can you link to an exploration of this point? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The bogus story, popular in rightwing circles, in which the US ban on agricultural use of <span class="caps">DDT</span>, inspired by Rachel Carson, is morphed into a global ban on <span class="caps">DDT</span>, bringing to an end a previously successful compaign to eradicate malaria&#8221;</p>

	<p>Can you link to an exploration of this point? Thanks.</p>
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