Comments on: David Cameron and Erik Olin Wright taking the “Social” in Socialism Seriously http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 27 May 2012 00:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: BG http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-174005 BG Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:25:20 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-174005 Hey neat! Erik Olin Wright is my uncle. Really! Hey neat! Erik Olin Wright is my uncle. Really!

]]> By: joseph sinatra http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173797 joseph sinatra Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:02:05 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173797 i'd also add that a great resource that provides examples of some of the innovations OW talks about is http://www.community-wealth.org/ i’d also add that a great resource that provides examples of some of the innovations OW talks about is

http://www.community-wealth.org/

]]> By: joseph sinatra http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173711 joseph sinatra Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:46:37 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173711 i heard Olin Wright present on this a few months ago and hoped he would address the role of power and interest in implementing his vision. Joel Rogers and Joshua Cohen (i think) while seemingly supportive, criticize olin wright and fung along these grounds in Deepening Democracy. when i asked him about this, OW said he would cover this in the conclusion of envisioning real utopias, which is not yet online. i heard Olin Wright present on this a few months ago and hoped he would address the role of power and interest in implementing his vision.

Joel Rogers and Joshua Cohen (i think) while seemingly supportive, criticize olin wright and fung along these grounds in Deepening Democracy.

when i asked him about this, OW said he would cover this in the conclusion of envisioning real utopias, which is not yet online.

]]> By: harry b http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173664 harry b Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:45:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173664 dc -- that's why I wanted to recommend it to him. And Russell is right -- I think that the paper, and the book, are extraordinarily good (though I should confess to some degree of bias). dc—that’s why I wanted to recommend it to him. And Russell is right—I think that the paper, and the book, are extraordinarily good (though I should confess to some degree of bias).

]]> By: DC http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173654 DC Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:03:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173654 What Cameron forgot to say (but will do after reading Wright I'm sure) is "not the market" as well as "not the state". What Cameron forgot to say (but will do after reading Wright I’m sure) is “not the market” as well as “not the state”.

]]> By: harry b http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173647 harry b Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:53:52 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173647 The link may be exclusively in my head -- when I heard him elaborating the idea that we should depend less on the state and more on society, emphasizing the social, it sounded very much like the central message of Wright's paper (at least the last version of it I saw, which probably predates the web version, which I just found by googling). I am absolutely not suggesting that Cameron is one of us; I just thought what he said resounded well with Wright's paper. The link may be exclusively in my head—when I heard him elaborating the idea that we should depend less on the state and more on society, emphasizing the social, it sounded very much like the central message of Wright’s paper (at least the last version of it I saw, which probably predates the web version, which I just found by googling). I am absolutely not suggesting that Cameron is one of us; I just thought what he said resounded well with Wright’s paper.

]]> By: Russell Arben Fox http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173644 Russell Arben Fox Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:47:40 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173644 I'm only about halfway through the paper, Harry, but I can already tell it's close to brilliant. Anything that advances socialist adn egalitarian discussions by way of an emphasis on communal values, civil society and democratic empowerment, and departs from statist language, is on the right track. I’m only about halfway through the paper, Harry, but I can already tell it’s close to brilliant. Anything that advances socialist adn egalitarian discussions by way of an emphasis on communal values, civil society and democratic empowerment, and departs from statist language, is on the right track.

]]> By: shwe http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-173642 shwe Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:00:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/02/david-cameron-taking-the-social-in-socialism-seriously/#comment-173642 Quite an incredible introductory video. But the link to the Olin Wright paper was not immediate apparent to me. Quite an incredible introductory video. But the link to the Olin Wright paper was not immediate apparent to me.

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