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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176739</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, technology.  I&#039;m 64 years old and this says there are 6 people named spencer england in the us.

But once in my senior year of college in 1964 we were talking about names in an all night bull
session and I made the claim that my name was unusual.  One thing led to another and we decided to find another spencer england.  It took one phone call to information in New York to find a spencer england.  

That was a lot more fun then using this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, technology.  I&#8217;m 64 years old and this says there are 6 people named spencer england in the us.</p>

	<p>But once in my senior year of college in 1964 we were talking about names in an all night bull<br />
session and I made the claim that my name was unusual.  One thing led to another and we decided to find another spencer england.  It took one phone call to information in New York to find a spencer england.</p>

	<p>That was a lot more fun then using this site.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176721</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those wondering 33 was right as the site says:

&lt;i&gt;Q: Why isn&#039;t it more accurate?

A: There are a number of possible sources of inaccuracy:

First and foremost, the program is based upon a convenient fiction. Without getting too technical, the program makes the assumption that a person&#039;s first and last names are independent of one another. What this means is it assumes that the probability of a person having a particular first name is the same no matter what last name they have. It isn&#039;t.
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For those wondering 33 was right as the site says:</p>

	<p><i>Q: Why isn&#8217;t it more accurate?</i></p>

	<p>A: There are a number of possible sources of inaccuracy:</p>

	<p>First and foremost, the program is based upon a convenient fiction. Without getting too technical, the program makes the assumption that a person&#8217;s first and last names are independent of one another. What this means is it assumes that the probability of a person having a particular first name is the same no matter what last name they have. It isn&#8217;t.<br />
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&gt; Engels: As a matter of fact, a search on the WhitePages returns no less than 69 listings of Donald Duck.

I cannot rule out the possibility that one of them uses the surname Rumsfeld as his nom-de-guerre.

Quack!

(In Denmark, the Donald is known as &lt;em&gt;Anders And&lt;/em&gt; but according to Danmarks Statistik, no-one of that name lives in Denmark. The closest match is one (1) Anders Andersen).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>-> Engels: As a matter of fact, a search on the WhitePages returns no less than 69 listings of Donald Duck.</p>

	<p>I cannot rule out the possibility that one of them uses the surname Rumsfeld as his nom-de-guerre.</p>

	<p>Quack!</p>

	<p>(In Denmark, the Donald is known as <em>Anders And</em> but according to Danmarks Statistik, no-one of that name lives in Denmark. The closest match is one (1) Anders Andersen).</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176620</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think #33 is right, as it would explain results like this:

There are 5,241 people in the U.S. named James James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think #33 is right, as it would explain results like this:</p>

	<p>There are 5,241 people in the U.S. named James James.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176612</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.  I don&#039;t exist, it says . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sigh.  I don&#8217;t exist, it says . . .</p>
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		<title>By: bad Jim</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176608</link>
		<dc:creator>bad Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engels, I prefer your world to mine.

Back when I was a student, the Berkeley phone book had a listing for B. Traven, on Parker, as I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Engels, I prefer your world to mine.</p>

	<p>Back when I was a student, the Berkeley phone book had a listing for B. Traven, on Parker, as I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176604</link>
		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 0 people in the U.S. named Donald Rumsfeld.

There are 28 people in the U.S. named Donald Duck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There are 0 people in the U.S. named Donald Rumsfeld.</p>

	<p>There are 28 people in the U.S. named Donald Duck.</p>
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		<title>By: Salted Peanut Lover</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176598</link>
		<dc:creator>Salted Peanut Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fully 414 parents with surname of Cox named their son Harry. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Fully 414 parents with surname of Cox named their son Harry. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176596</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish &lt;a href=&quot;http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2006/10/strange.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; were true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I wish <a href="http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2006/10/strange.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> were true.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Karreman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176583</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Karreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, just me in the whole world. But then I have umlauts over the a in my surname. And I personally now all the Kärremans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nope, just me in the whole world. But then I have umlauts over the a in my surname. And I personally now all the K&#228;rremans.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176574</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It tells me that there is only one person with my name in the US. I know that this is false, because when I google my name, I can find another one. Apparently he was a high-school football player a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It tells me that there is only one person with my name in the US. I know that this is false, because when I google my name, I can find another one. Apparently he was a high-school football player a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176573</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more accuracy, try http://whitepages.com and give the state/province as &quot;all states.&quot;  This phone and address lookup site also covers Canada.  (And yes, it lists those with unlisted numbers -- offering to get the information on them for a small fee.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For more accuracy, try <a href="http://whitepages.com" rel="nofollow">http://whitepages.com</a> and give the state/province as &#8220;all states.&#8221;  This phone and address lookup site also covers Canada.  (And yes, it lists those with unlisted numbers&#8212;offering to get the information on them for a small fee.)</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176563</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abb1 is unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Abb1 is unique.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a load of crap. It says there are 0 people with my name when I happen to know there are at least 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is a load of crap. It says there are 0 people with my name when I happen to know there are at least 2.</p>
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		<title>By: clint</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/10/22/nameless-horror/comment-page-1/#comment-176557</link>
		<dc:creator>clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their methodology must read like the intro to a particularly poorly written exam question in an intro stats class.

Something like: There are 300 million people in US.  Based on crappy old estimates there are X people with the first name Max and Y people with the last name Power.

a.  Identify the probability someone will have the first name Max
b. Identify the probability someone will have the last name Power
c.  Assuming first and last names are independent, calculate the joint probability of having the name &quot;Max Power&quot;
d.  Based on the joint probability in (c), approximately how many Americans are named &quot;Max Power&quot;?

hmm, maybe I should use this next time I have to teach intro stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Their methodology must read like the intro to a particularly poorly written exam question in an intro stats class.</p>

	<p>Something like: There are 300 million people in US.  Based on crappy old estimates there are X people with the first name Max and Y people with the last name Power.</p>

	<p>a.  Identify the probability someone will have the first name Max<br />
b. Identify the probability someone will have the last name Power<br />
c.  Assuming first and last names are independent, calculate the joint probability of having the name &#8220;Max Power&#8221;<br />
d.  Based on the joint probability in&#169;, approximately how many Americans are named &#8220;Max Power&#8221;?</p>

	<p>hmm, maybe I should use this next time I have to teach intro stats.</p>
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