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		<title>By: Robert Waldmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Waldmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I find interesting is that if you slide around the transition 92/93 without looking at the year itself, it is very hard to notice a change. 

Clinton repeatedly used the same words &quot;family&quot; &quot;freedom&quot; that Bush Sr used.  Willy was slick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One thing I find interesting is that if you slide around the transition 92/93 without looking at the year itself, it is very hard to notice a change.</p>

	<p>Clinton repeatedly used the same words &#8220;family&#8221; &#8220;freedom&#8221; that Bush Sr used.  Willy was slick</p>
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		<title>By: Syd Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syd Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melanie wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Interestingly the word Vietnam doesn’t appear until 1967 – when that war was already, to all intents and purposes, lost.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t forget that Lyn Johnson&#039;s campaign in 1964 was almost a rehash of Woody Wilson&#039;s in 1916, &quot;He kept us out of the war.&quot;  This may go some way to explaining the Basil Fawltysque &quot;Don&#039;t mention the war!&quot; approach of the mid-60s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Melanie wrote:</p>

	<p><i>Interestingly the word Vietnam doesn&#8217;t appear until 1967 &#8211; when that war was already, to all intents and purposes, lost.</i></p>

	<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Lyn Johnson&#8217;s campaign in 1964 was almost a rehash of Woody Wilson&#8217;s in 1916, &#8220;He kept us out of the war.&#8221;  This may go some way to explaining the Basil Fawltysque &#8220;Don&#8217;t mention the war!&#8221; approach of the mid-60s.</p>
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		<title>By: Thompsaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thompsaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that I wouldn&#039;t look for without my prejudices are trends in GWOT terms like &quot;qaeda&quot; &quot;terrorists&quot;, etc. which appear after 911, then &quot;regimes&quot; and &quot;weapons&quot; in 2002, then, a year later, Bush goes apesh*t about &quot;saddam&quot;, &quot;hussein&quot;, &quot;weapons&quot; and &quot;iraq&quot;. Also, surprising Bin Laden does not appear at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One thing that I wouldn&#8217;t look for without my prejudices are trends in <span class="caps">GWOT</span> terms like &#8220;qaeda&#8221; &#8220;terrorists&#8221;, etc. which appear after 911, then &#8220;regimes&#8221; and &#8220;weapons&#8221; in 2002, then, a year later, Bush goes apesh*t about &#8220;saddam&#8221;, &#8220;hussein&#8221;, &#8220;weapons&#8221; and &#8220;iraq&#8221;. Also, surprising Bin Laden does not appear at all.</p>
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		<title>By: melanie</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/04/from-colonies-to-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-177756</link>
		<dc:creator>melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Andrew Reynolds, the first word I looked for was war. Only 2 speeches in 230 years!

Interestingly the word Vietnam doesn&#039;t appear until 1967 - when that war was already, to all intents and purposes, lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Like Andrew Reynolds, the first word I looked for was war. Only 2 speeches in 230 years!</p>

	<p>Interestingly the word Vietnam doesn&#8217;t appear until 1967 &#8211; when that war was already, to all intents and purposes, lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIrvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McIrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Bush has actually been stressing &quot;terrorists&quot; harder and harder as the years since 2001 go on; it&#039;s a more prominent word in 2006 than it was in the speeches in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11th attacks that were all about fighting terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Also, Bush has actually been stressing &#8220;terrorists&#8221; harder and harder as the years since 2001 go on; it&#8217;s a more prominent word in 2006 than it was in the speeches in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11th attacks that were all about fighting terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Danby</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/04/from-colonies-to-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-177724</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Danby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To flesh out John&#039;s insight.  (The ThisNation.com link they give you has full texts.)

&quot;Economy&quot; and &quot;economic&quot; emerge as terms that mean the opposite of extravagant.  But the adjective &quot;economic&quot; crosses over first into the more contemporary meaning of the entire complex of production-distribution-consumption.  A quick glance suggests the dividing line is in the 1890s:

Cleveland 1895: &quot;steps already taken toward improving our economic and financial situation&quot;
McKinley 1897: &quot;solve the economic problem&quot;
McKinley 1899: &quot;information as to the industries and commerce of other countries ... official data of an economic character&quot;
TR 1901: &quot;stability of our economic system&quot;

The noun &quot;economy&quot; remains firmly a term for anti-extravagance until, as far as I can see, Hoover and the Depression. 

Here we have Hoover using the term in the traditional sense:

Hoover 1929: &quot;extravagance and not economy&quot;
Hoover 1930: &quot;Most rigid economy is therefore necessary to avoid increase in taxes&quot;

And then:

Hoover 1931: &quot;yet our self-contained national economy, with its matchless strength and resources&quot;

Which seems like the first appearance of the phrase &quot;national economy.&quot;

&quot;Economy&quot; disappears altogether in FDR&#039;s addresses for obvious reasons, until it appears in its contemporary sense in 1939

FDR 1939: &quot;technological improvements have brought to our economy over the last twenty years&quot;

though there is also intriguingly:
FDR 1941: &quot;our social economy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To flesh out John&#8217;s insight.  (The ThisNation.com link they give you has full texts.)</p>

	<p>&#8220;Economy&#8221; and &#8220;economic&#8221; emerge as terms that mean the opposite of extravagant.  But the adjective &#8220;economic&#8221; crosses over first into the more contemporary meaning of the entire complex of production-distribution-consumption.  A quick glance suggests the dividing line is in the 1890s:</p>

	<p>Cleveland 1895: &#8220;steps already taken toward improving our economic and financial situation&#8221;<br />
McKinley 1897: &#8220;solve the economic problem&#8221;<br />
McKinley 1899: &#8220;information as to the industries and commerce of other countries &#8230; official data of an economic character&#8221;<br />
<span class="caps">TR 1901</span>: &#8220;stability of our economic system&#8221;</p>

	<p>The noun &#8220;economy&#8221; remains firmly a term for anti-extravagance until, as far as I can see, Hoover and the Depression.</p>

	<p>Here we have Hoover using the term in the traditional sense:</p>

	<p>Hoover 1929: &#8220;extravagance and not economy&#8221;<br />
Hoover 1930: &#8220;Most rigid economy is therefore necessary to avoid increase in taxes&#8221;</p>

	<p>And then:</p>

	<p>Hoover 1931: &#8220;yet our self-contained national economy, with its matchless strength and resources&#8221;</p>

	<p>Which seems like the first appearance of the phrase &#8220;national economy.&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;Economy&#8221; disappears altogether in <span class="caps">FDR</span>&#8217;s addresses for obvious reasons, until it appears in its contemporary sense in 1939</p>

	<p><span class="caps">FDR 1939</span>: &#8220;technological improvements have brought to our economy over the last twenty years&#8221;</p>

	<p>though there is also intriguingly:<br />
<span class="caps">FDR 1941</span>: &#8220;our social economy&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: C.L. Ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.L. Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Family&#039; stops being a frequent word after the 9/11 attacks. Bush 43 uses it extensively until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;Family&#8217; stops being a frequent word after the 9/11 attacks. Bush 43 uses it extensively until then.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kervick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kervick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;constitution&quot; appears with great frequency through most of the 19th century, and then its use appears to decline sharply in the twentieth, with a symbolic flare-up in a 1913 TR speech celebrating the bold exercise of executive power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The word &#8220;constitution&#8221; appears with great frequency through most of the 19th century, and then its use appears to decline sharply in the twentieth, with a symbolic flare-up in a 1913 TR speech celebrating the bold exercise of executive power.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen &#187; What the Presidents Said</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen &#187; What the Presidents Said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Quantitative content analysis can be fun: (Via Crooked Timber) - the US Presidential Speeches Tag Cloud. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Quantitative content analysis can be fun: (Via Crooked Timber) &#8211; the <span class="caps">US </span>Presidential Speeches Tag Cloud. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one, sad, note - the word &quot;war&quot; appears in all but two - George Washington&#039;s inaugural address and FDR&#039;s &quot;Program for Social Security&quot;. So, except for one special purpose speech it has been in them all, except at the founding.
Some things (almost) never change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And one, sad, note &#8211; the word &#8220;war&#8221; appears in all but two &#8211; George Washington&#8217;s inaugural address and <span class="caps">FDR</span>&#8217;s &#8220;Program for Social Security&#8221;. So, except for one special purpose speech it has been in them all, except at the founding.<br />
Some things (almost) never change.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McCann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean McCann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Economic&quot; stands out for sure, as does the recent &quot;terrorist.&quot;  I was especially struck, though, by the way &quot;family&quot; all of a sudden becomes a big word during the 80s and remains so through the Clinton years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Economic&#8221; stands out for sure, as does the recent &#8220;terrorist.&#8221;  I was especially struck, though, by the way &#8220;family&#8221; all of a sudden becomes a big word during the 80s and remains so through the Clinton years.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool indeed! Reflecting my own interests, I noticed that &quot;Economic&quot; gets a big run right through the 20th century, but doesn&#039;t appear at all in the 19th.

There are a few occurrences of &quot;economy&quot;, but I suspect that the C19 uses are as a synonym for frugality, rather than to the reification we call &quot;The Economy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Cool indeed! Reflecting my own interests, I noticed that &#8220;Economic&#8221; gets a big run right through the 20th century, but doesn&#8217;t appear at all in the 19th.</p>

	<p>There are a few occurrences of &#8220;economy&#8221;, but I suspect that the <span class="caps">C19</span> uses are as a synonym for frugality, rather than to the reification we call &#8220;The Economy&#8221;.</p>
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