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	<title>Comments on: Ferenc Pusk&#225;s has died</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179617</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 Oddly, this sensible rule applies to all Australia-NZ relationships &lt;b&gt;except&lt;/b&gt; sport. Any   achievement by a New Zealander considered creditable by Australians is automatically appropriated (the Pavlova, Jane Campion, Russell Crowe etc) but a loss to the All Blacks is a bitter blow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#8 Oddly, this sensible rule applies to all Australia-NZ relationships <b>except</b> sport. Any   achievement by a New Zealander considered creditable by Australians is automatically appropriated (the Pavlova, Jane Campion, Russell Crowe etc) but a loss to the All Blacks is a bitter blow.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil Valentine</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179596</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Mikes writes about going to that England game with a fellow Hungarian emigre. Beforehand they had solemnly agreed that as naturalized citizens it was their duty to support England. Once at the game, however, they found that patriotism was one thing, football patriotism another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>George Mikes writes about going to that England game with a fellow Hungarian emigre. Beforehand they had solemnly agreed that as naturalized citizens it was their duty to support England. Once at the game, however, they found that patriotism was one thing, football patriotism another.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Horton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179572</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well chuffed to see that Glanville manages to shoehorn himself into the obituary as usual. Being glimpsed by Glanville must have been one of the high points of Puskas&#039; career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well chuffed to see that Glanville manages to shoehorn himself into the obituary as usual. Being glimpsed by Glanville must have been one of the high points of Puskas&#8217; career.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bertram</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179566</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bertram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Kieran &quot;has often pointed out&quot;:http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/07/01/british-sporting-heroes/ , Irish people count as British when they are doing well at sport. This being the case, it is impossible for an Irish victory to count as a non-British victory (and, conversely, an Irish defeat cannot  count as a British defeat). So in all matches between British teams and Irish teams, a British team has won. A remarkable 100 per cent record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As Kieran <a href="<a" title="">has often pointed out</a> href=&#8221;http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/07/01/british-sporting-heroes/&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2003/07/01/british-sporting-heroes/ , Irish people count as British when they are doing well at sport. This being the case, it is impossible for an Irish victory to count as a non-British victory (and, conversely, an Irish defeat cannot  count as a British defeat). So in all matches between British teams and Irish teams, a British team has won. A remarkable 100 per cent record.</p>
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		<title>By: trialsanderrors</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179565</link>
		<dc:creator>trialsanderrors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 07:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times obit (which also spells his name Ference) does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Times obit (which also spells his name Ference) does.</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179539</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I haven&#039;t read any of those obituaries it seems likely that at least one of them incorrectly refers to that 1953 whupping as England&#039;s first home defeat by a European (i.e. non-British) side. Of course, that honour belongs to the Republic of Ireland side that won 2-0 at Goodison Park in 1949. Though a case can be made for the victory of the (pre-independence, pre-partition) Irish side of 1914.

Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Although I haven&#8217;t read any of those obituaries it seems likely that at least one of them incorrectly refers to that 1953 whupping as England&#8217;s first home defeat by a European (i.e. non-British) side. Of course, that honour belongs to the Republic of Ireland side that won 2-0 at Goodison Park in 1949. Though a case can be made for the victory of the (pre-independence, pre-partition) Irish side of 1914.</p>

	<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ben alpers</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179509</link>
		<dc:creator>ben alpers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it&#039;s probably not going to get a post of its own, let me note that former University of Michigan football (yeah, &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; kinda football) coach Bo Schembechler has also died, on the eve of the Ohio State-Michigan game. 

I have no personal connection to the University of Michigan, but as a kid I always rooted for the Wolverines against the Buckeyes, &#039;cause they had great uniforms, they were a blue and yellow team whose rival wore red (and I grew up as a University of California fan, whose blue-and-gold clad Golden Bears played against the evil, red-clad Stanford CardinalS, as they were then known), and I couldn&#039;t stand Schembechler&#039;s great rival, tOSU coach Woody Hayes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Since it&#8217;s probably not going to get a post of its own, let me note that former University of Michigan football (yeah, <i>our</i> kinda football) coach Bo Schembechler has also died, on the eve of the Ohio State-Michigan game.</p>

	<p>I have no personal connection to the University of Michigan, but as a kid I always rooted for the Wolverines against the Buckeyes, &#8216;cause they had great uniforms, they were a blue and yellow team whose rival wore red (and I grew up as a University of California fan, whose blue-and-gold clad Golden Bears played against the evil, red-clad Stanford CardinalS, as they were then known), and I couldn&#8217;t stand Schembechler&#8217;s great rival, tOSU coach Woody Hayes.</p>
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		<title>By: oneangryslav</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneangryslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but at least they&#039;ll be playing Euro2012 matches at home--I hope (as a Croat, I&#039;m anxiously anticipating UEFA&#039;s announcement that Hungary and Croatia will be co-hosts of Euro2012).  Their bid is impressive and makes the most sense.
The state of contemporary Magyar football is truly disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, but at least they&#8217;ll be playing Euro2012 matches at home&#8212;I hope (as a Croat, I&#8217;m anxiously anticipating <span class="caps">UEFA</span>&#8217;s announcement that Hungary and Croatia will be co-hosts of Euro2012).  Their bid is impressive and makes the most sense.<br />
The state of contemporary Magyar football is truly disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Eszter said. Hungarian football clearly reached it&#039;s high point in the Puskas era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What Eszter said. Hungarian football clearly reached it&#8217;s high point in the Puskas era.</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179486</link>
		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that I can just read CT for essential Hungarian news. 

Peter, it&#039;s been downhill for decades, is this even surprising anymore?:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good to know that I can just read CT for essential Hungarian news.</p>

	<p>Peter, it&#8217;s been downhill for decades, is this even surprising anymore?:(</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Briffa</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2006/11/17/ferenc-puskas-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-179474</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Briffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could have done with him a month or so ago when plucky little Malta slaughtered the Mighty Magyars in a European Qualifier.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/reports/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=international_feed/06/10/11/SOCCER_Mlt-Malta_Nightlead.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They could have done with him a month or so ago when plucky little Malta slaughtered the Mighty Magyars in a European Qualifier.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/reports/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=international_feed/06/10/11/SOCCER_Mlt-Malta_Nightlead.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/reports/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=international_feed/06/10/11/SOCCER_Mlt-Malta_Nightlead.html</a></p>
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