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		<title>By: trialsanderrors</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/07/sarko-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-186552</link>
		<dc:creator>trialsanderrors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?&lt;/i&gt;

U.S. higher education = the beacon of egalitarianism. 

I learn something new every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?</i></p>

	<p>U.S. higher education = the beacon of egalitarianism.</p>

	<p>I learn something new every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchvoter</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/07/sarko-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-186379</link>
		<dc:creator>Frenchvoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Sarko&#039;s Childhood:
I fathom only one explication for how he was &quot;humiliated&quot;: his mother was a single-mother, left by the father.
That could be a problem, when you live in a place like Neuilly, even with enough money and education on his mother side. It was definitely not the bronx, and  very traditionalist. They have social criteria for defining an outsider. 
I reckon it can be humiliating, if you have an ego big enough for becoming one day candidate to the presidency. And it can hamper your scolarity at the wrong time, which put yout out of the ENA race. But not every bright ambitious student can get in anyway.

For his outsider side: his upbringing was morphed by his mother&#039;s family and is definitely french bourgeois.
No twenty-something outsider would have ever dated the daughter of Chirac (or close to it, with the french media I will never know what the rumor holds).
 
And about the jew/hungarian roots and his family history: I learned it the hungary bit 2-3 yearss ago, and the rest of it in 2006 only. Without internet, the blogs  and google I would probably never have known the details.

So, let&#039;s resume. So much for his outsider side: he botched slightly his studies, and ended as a lawyer (not so good on that scale in France).
For the rest, he is a plain politic insider (Leader of the Young RPRs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>About Sarko&#8217;s Childhood:<br />
I fathom only one explication for how he was &#8220;humiliated&#8221;: his mother was a single-mother, left by the father.<br />
That could be a problem, when you live in a place like Neuilly, even with enough money and education on his mother side. It was definitely not the bronx, and  very traditionalist. They have social criteria for defining an outsider.<br />
I reckon it can be humiliating, if you have an ego big enough for becoming one day candidate to the presidency. And it can hamper your scolarity at the wrong time, which put yout out of the <span class="caps">ENA</span> race. But not every bright ambitious student can get in anyway.</p>

	<p>For his outsider side: his upbringing was morphed by his mother&#8217;s family and is definitely french bourgeois.<br />
No twenty-something outsider would have ever dated the daughter of Chirac (or close to it, with the french media I will never know what the rumor holds).</p>

	<p>And about the jew/hungarian roots and his family history: I learned it the hungary bit 2-3 yearss ago, and the rest of it in 2006 only. Without internet, the blogs  and google I would probably never have known the details.</p>

	<p>So, let&#8217;s resume. So much for his outsider side: he botched slightly his studies, and ended as a lawyer (not so good on that scale in France).<br />
For the rest, he is a plain politic insider (Leader of the Young RPRs).</p>
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		<title>By: Sk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/07/sarko-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-186375</link>
		<dc:creator>Sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A politically wishy-washy outsider who suffered a terrible childhood?  Actually, that sounds like Clinton.

Sk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A politically wishy-washy outsider who suffered a terrible childhood?  Actually, that sounds like Clinton.</p>

	<p>Sk</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these &quot;law and order&quot; fears in France make me laugh.  It&#039;s much ado about almost nothing.  The nationwide riots that tore through France in late 2005 resulted in a grand total of &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; death.  If there were riots on a similar scale in the United States the death toll would be way into the hundreds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>All these &#8220;law and order&#8221; fears in France make me laugh.  It&#8217;s much ado about almost nothing.  The nationwide riots that tore through France in late 2005 resulted in a grand total of <i>one</i> death.  If there were riots on a similar scale in the United States the death toll would be way into the hundreds.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/07/sarko-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-186332</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?&lt;/i&gt;

Now that&#039;s even funnier than &#039;George W. Bush: Andover, Yale and Harvard Business School&#039; -- who ran against a Harvard grad and a Yale grad. 

True, Skull and Bones isn&#039;t quite the same as being an &lt;i&gt;énarque&lt;/i&gt;, but the difference is primarily one of  presentation. Which may be the case here, if Sarko is playing prolier-than-thou just as Bush has been on a ten-year mission to cornpone himself ever further.

It appears that Ségo&#039;s missteps since winning the nomination were already on display in the final stages of the Socialist primary, and the PS face the problem of weighing down her campaign with thoughts of oh-no-not-again. My gut feeling is  is that Royal may slowly bleed to the finish line -- she has the ironic advantage of an already-established level of haplessness -- but that Sarko has the potential to blow it in a fairly spectacular way.

 (But I really ought to track this more thoroughly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?</i></p>

	<p>Now that&#8217;s even funnier than &#8216;George W. Bush: Andover, Yale and Harvard Business School&#8217;&#8212;who ran against a Harvard grad and a Yale grad.</p>

	<p>True, Skull and Bones isn&#8217;t quite the same as being an <i>&#233;narque</i>, but the difference is primarily one of  presentation. Which may be the case here, if Sarko is playing prolier-than-thou just as Bush has been on a ten-year mission to cornpone himself ever further.</p>

	<p>It appears that S&#233;go&#8217;s missteps since winning the nomination were already on display in the final stages of the Socialist primary, and the PS face the problem of weighing down her campaign with thoughts of oh-no-not-again. My gut feeling is  is that Royal may slowly bleed to the finish line&#8212;she has the ironic advantage of an already-established level of haplessness&#8212;but that Sarko has the potential to blow it in a fairly spectacular way.</p>

	<p>(But I really ought to track this more thoroughly.)</p>
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		<title>By: john c. halasz</title>
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		<dc:creator>john c. halasz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omri:

&quot;Jefferson opposed the U.S. Constitution&quot; Whaaa!?!?!? Why don&#039;t you consult your old friend google.</description>
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	<p>&#8220;Jefferson opposed the U.S. Constitution&#8221; Whaaa<img src="?" alt="" border="0" />?!? Why don&#8217;t you consult your old friend google.</p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an interesting thread. From afar, it seems to me that Sarko is running less as Nixon, for whom law-n-order was but one part of a much wider set of ambitions, and more as Giuliani, law&#039;n&#039;order tout court, a sign of the much more limited ambitions of French politicians these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This has been an interesting thread. From afar, it seems to me that Sarko is running less as Nixon, for whom law-n-order was but one part of a much wider set of ambitions, and more as Giuliani, law&#8217;n&#8217;order tout court, a sign of the much more limited ambitions of French politicians these days.</p>
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		<title>By: yabonn</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/07/sarko-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-186323</link>
		<dc:creator>yabonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the upbringing, and following z : his full name would be Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa : very aristocratic, and rich. This archi-insider can do the &quot;childhood humiliation&quot; dance because the media lets him. 

He is an &quot;intellectual&quot; too, like all the others, but his grammar is fascinating - each sentence trying to be a proof of the folksy common widsom of the man : a little more familiar than usual on television (&quot;Mahame Chabot&quot;), yet precise. It plays well in the media, who is in full poujadist mode these days. If only he could conceal his obvious enjoyment of power, he&#039;d be a near perfect demagogue.

About the dirty tricks, he said the advantage of his interior ministry is that you&#039;re on the good side of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>About the upbringing, and following z : his full name would be Sark&#246;zy de Nagy-Bocsa : very aristocratic, and rich. This archi-insider can do the &#8220;childhood humiliation&#8221; dance because the media lets him.</p>

	<p>He is an &#8220;intellectual&#8221; too, like all the others, but his grammar is fascinating &#8211; each sentence trying to be a proof of the folksy common widsom of the man : a little more familiar than usual on television (&#8220;Mahame Chabot&#8221;), yet precise. It plays well in the media, who is in full poujadist mode these days. If only he could conceal his obvious enjoyment of power, he&#8217;d be a near perfect demagogue.</p>

	<p>About the dirty tricks, he said the advantage of his interior ministry is that you&#8217;re on the good side of them.</p>
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		<title>By: bad Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>bad Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nixon used to bring his classmates home for a dinner of beans and spaghetti, which for him was proof of authenticity. Later, he didn&#039;t seem to mind being known as the Senator from Pepsi-Cola.

We so far have survived his presidency, though not without some scarring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nixon used to bring his classmates home for a dinner of beans and spaghetti, which for him was proof of authenticity. Later, he didn&#8217;t seem to mind being known as the Senator from Pepsi-Cola.</p>

	<p>We so far have survived his presidency, though not without some scarring.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Insofar as I understand the Clearstream affair (which isn’t very far), he’s more sinned against than sinning.&lt;/i&gt;

He did use Renseignements generaux (French police intelligence department) to spy on members of the Royal team and possibly on Royal herself. He did &quot;accidentally&quot; let slip the details of Herve Gaymard&#039;s lodging facilities to a Figaro journalist, thereby terminating the career of his supposed ally and hastening his come-back into the government. He also was a key figure in the attribution of kick-backs in the attribution of housing projects in the 80s and 90s (in fairness to him, most of the french political class had some role in that). And I would dispute your characterisation of the Clearstream affair.

&lt;i&gt;nor did he have a happy upbringing&lt;/i&gt;

He might have been unhappy, but he did grow up in a mansion in one of the wealthiest part of Paris and went to elite private schools.

Omri, I live in France and read a fair bit of criticism of Sarkozy. I never saw mentionned the fact that he was Jewish. Which is understandable, for CT readers that might not follow French politics too closely, seeing that Sarkozy is not Jewish, but a practicing roman catholic (and of that incidentally, you will read tons of criticisms, as a sizeable part of the French electorate cares very deeply about &lt;i&gt;laicite&lt;/i&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Insofar as I understand the Clearstream affair (which isn&#8217;t very far), he&#8217;s more sinned against than sinning.</i></p>

	<p>He did use Renseignements generaux (French police intelligence department) to spy on members of the Royal team and possibly on Royal herself. He did &#8220;accidentally&#8221; let slip the details of Herve Gaymard&#8217;s lodging facilities to a Figaro journalist, thereby terminating the career of his supposed ally and hastening his come-back into the government. He also was a key figure in the attribution of kick-backs in the attribution of housing projects in the 80s and 90s (in fairness to him, most of the french political class had some role in that). And I would dispute your characterisation of the Clearstream affair.</p>

	<p><i>nor did he have a happy upbringing</i></p>

	<p>He might have been unhappy, but he did grow up in a mansion in one of the wealthiest part of Paris and went to elite private schools.</p>

	<p>Omri, I live in France and read a fair bit of criticism of Sarkozy. I never saw mentionned the fact that he was Jewish. Which is understandable, for CT readers that might not follow French politics too closely, seeing that Sarkozy is not Jewish, but a practicing roman catholic (and of that incidentally, you will read tons of criticisms, as a sizeable part of the French electorate cares very deeply about <i>laicite</i>).</p>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;whatever the right word may be&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Tackled&quot;. 
Polls well in focus groups apparently. Sarko was in London last week, he might pick it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>whatever the right word may be</i></p>

	<p>&#8220;Tackled&#8221;.<br />
Polls well in focus groups apparently. Sarko was in London last week, he might pick it up.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is it racist to want this kind of thing stamped out?&lt;/i&gt;

When you put it this way, my reaction is: yeah, sounds like it may be sorta racist or fascist to want this kind of thing &lt;i&gt;stamped out&lt;/i&gt; - as opposed to cured (or rehabilitated or whatever the right word may be). I&#039;ll admit that this is merely a knee-jerk reaction, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Is it racist to want this kind of thing stamped out?</i></p>

	<p>When you put it this way, my reaction is: yeah, sounds like it may be sorta racist or fascist to want this kind of thing <i>stamped out</i> &#8211; as opposed to cured (or rehabilitated or whatever the right word may be). I&#8217;ll admit that this is merely a knee-jerk reaction, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasan Jafri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hasan Jafri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Nixon analogy is on the money. Sarkozy is incongruously clumsy, a lugubrious political creature pining for approval. Like Tricky Dick, Sullen Sarko has a five o&#039;clock shadow that plunges most flat-screens t.v&#039;s into darkness. His name sounds awfully close to some incurable and as yet undiscovered form of brain cancer.  And people expect  he&#039;ll get creamed in any debate with Segolene Royal, even if she&#039;s not from a Green-loving, cheese-eating family. He inspires so much anger that decent French people who don&#039;t live vicariously otherwise are counting the days till Segolene Royal crushes him under high heels.

One reason reason they anxiously anticipate his demise is, given his politics, really ironic: He&#039;s a foreigner. Sarkozy is branded as an outsider, and is not seen as French in the social sense. The reason he didn&#039;t go to ENA is because it&#039;s highly unlikely he would have been accepted. This establishes his race-baiting as analogous to the red-baiting antics of Richard Nixon, the Warring Quaker. Like Nixon, Sarkozy has gained acceptance among right-wing voters by playing on xenophobia and racism. He&#039;s an odd man, soon to be the odd man out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Your Nixon analogy is on the money. Sarkozy is incongruously clumsy, a lugubrious political creature pining for approval. Like Tricky Dick, Sullen Sarko has a five o&#8217;clock shadow that plunges most flat-screens t.v&#8217;s into darkness. His name sounds awfully close to some incurable and as yet undiscovered form of brain cancer.  And people expect  he&#8217;ll get creamed in any debate with Segolene Royal, even if she&#8217;s not from a Green-loving, cheese-eating family. He inspires so much anger that decent French people who don&#8217;t live vicariously otherwise are counting the days till Segolene Royal crushes him under high heels.</p>

	<p>One reason reason they anxiously anticipate his demise is, given his politics, really ironic: He&#8217;s a foreigner. Sarkozy is branded as an outsider, and is not seen as French in the social sense. The reason he didn&#8217;t go to <span class="caps">ENA</span> is because it&#8217;s highly unlikely he would have been accepted. This establishes his race-baiting as analogous to the red-baiting antics of Richard Nixon, the Warring Quaker. Like Nixon, Sarkozy has gained acceptance among right-wing voters by playing on xenophobia and racism. He&#8217;s an odd man, soon to be the odd man out.</p>
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		<title>By: JLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a french I see that Sarkozy in fact looks more and more like Chirac but younger.
He says everything and the opposite.

The father of Sarkozy was a hungarian aristocrat that owns a farm of 2000 people.
He came in France because of communism.
He is from Neuilly the richest city in France.
But he is not too much elitist.

&quot;Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?&quot;

Grandes Ecoles are mostly in PAris but not especially. also in Lyons, Strasbourg (ENA now).

Intellectual in fact are rather for Sarkozy.
And Show biz too, they live in the same city as him (Neuilly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a french I see that Sarkozy in fact looks more and more like Chirac but younger.<br />
He says everything and the opposite.</p>

	<p>The father of Sarkozy was a hungarian aristocrat that owns a farm of 2000 people.<br />
He came in France because of communism.<br />
He is from Neuilly the richest city in France.<br />
But he is not too much elitist.</p>

	<p>&#8220;Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?&#8221;</p>

	<p>Grandes Ecoles are mostly in PAris but not especially. also in Lyons, Strasbourg (ENA now).</p>

	<p>Intellectual in fact are rather for Sarkozy.<br />
And Show biz too, they live in the same city as him (Neuilly).</p>
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		<title>By: Omri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, if anyone here doubts the law and order problem in France right now, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/03/europe/EU-GEN-France-Suburbs-Violence.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s a taste of what&#039;s been going on.&lt;/a&gt; Is it racist to want this kind of thing stamped out? Extra credit question: is it racist to be an Arab in France and want this kind of thing stamped out? 

Other question: As far as I can see from reading the same news sources the Timberite crowd reads every day, Sarkozy has a brain and a track record of using it, both to advance his career and for education in general. What is closer to the truth: that his supporters are anti-intellectual, or that his detractors are fetishists clinging to the coat of arms of the Parisian Grandes Ecoles? Contrast with Valery d&#039;Estaing, who felt so emboldened by his work in cobbling together the proposed EU constitution,  to compare himself to Thomas Jefferson, apparently not knowing that Jefferson &lt;i&gt;opposed&lt;/i&gt; the US Constitution. Of Sarkozy and d&#039;Estaing, which better deserves the label? 

Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anyway, if anyone here doubts the law and order problem in France right now, <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/03/europe/EU-GEN-France-Suburbs-Violence.php" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s a taste of what&#8217;s been going on.</a> Is it racist to want this kind of thing stamped out? Extra credit question: is it racist to be an Arab in France and want this kind of thing stamped out?</p>

	<p>Other question: As far as I can see from reading the same news sources the Timberite crowd reads every day, Sarkozy has a brain and a track record of using it, both to advance his career and for education in general. What is closer to the truth: that his supporters are anti-intellectual, or that his detractors are fetishists clinging to the coat of arms of the Parisian Grandes Ecoles? Contrast with Valery d&#8217;Estaing, who felt so emboldened by his work in cobbling together the proposed EU constitution,  to compare himself to Thomas Jefferson, apparently not knowing that Jefferson <i>opposed</i> the <span class="caps">US </span>Constitution. Of Sarkozy and d&#8217;Estaing, which better deserves the label?</p>

	<p>Extra credit question: should France consider building parallel grandes ecoles in Lyons, Marseilles, and/or Rennes, so that like in the US, the elite would have no fetishes of authority to wield over the rest of the country?</p>
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