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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s wrong with happiness measurement ?</title>
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		<title>By: calmo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-188265</link>
		<dc:creator>calmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recall Mae West&#039;s famous line people &quot;Are you happy to see me or is that a pickle in your pocket?&quot; and take your cue that this has nothing to do with numbers. 
You are happy or you&#039;re not.
Don&#039;t give me this waffling nonsense about 6 out of 10 --that&#039;s a  &#039;no&#039;. Bone up and confess you are in the doldrums just trying to fashion a response. Now you may think that Mae&#039;s &quot;happiness&quot; is so different  from the economist&#039;s, but you, unhappy buzzard, would be wrong.

Is it transient? [only an idiot is happy all the time, yes?] Can your case be made more or less transient? [Can Mae make a difference? can she!]
And we are going to entertain the notion of measuring this? 
  Not me. And not Mae. What about you, econometrician (stick-in-the-mud)?
 This elusive but well worth pursuing Happy person is someone who is motivated, inspired and an inspiration to others. She is both your best citizen and your best worker. So policies that make more people happy, more often for longer periods of time are worth pursuing. We can tell (like Mae) when you&#039;re happy, but measuring it in the aggregate...I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Recall Mae West&#8217;s famous line people &#8220;Are you happy to see me or is that a pickle in your pocket?&#8221; and take your cue that this has nothing to do with numbers.<br />
You are happy or you&#8217;re not.<br />
Don&#8217;t give me this waffling nonsense about 6 out of 10&#8212;that&#8217;s a  &#8216;no&#8217;. Bone up and confess you are in the doldrums just trying to fashion a response. Now you may think that Mae&#8217;s &#8220;happiness&#8221; is so different  from the economist&#8217;s, but you, unhappy buzzard, would be wrong.</p>

	<p>Is it transient? [only an idiot is happy all the time, yes?] Can your case be made more or less transient? [Can Mae make a difference? can she!]<br />
And we are going to entertain the notion of measuring this?<br />
Not me. And not Mae. What about you, econometrician (stick-in-the-mud)?<br />
This elusive but well worth pursuing Happy person is someone who is motivated, inspired and an inspiration to others. She is both your best citizen and your best worker. So policies that make more people happy, more often for longer periods of time are worth pursuing. We can tell (like Mae) when you&#8217;re happy, but measuring it in the aggregate&#8230;I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: shwe</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-188044</link>
		<dc:creator>shwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how happiness is the same as utility, as the respective theses regarding these and income seem to diverge in one important respect. Diminishing returns to income suggests that you simply need to have more to reach a given leven of satisfaction/utility. Many of the happiness theorists seem to suggest that having more income decreases happiness past a certain threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t understand how happiness is the same as utility, as the respective theses regarding these and income seem to diverge in one important respect. Diminishing returns to income suggests that you simply need to have more to reach a given leven of satisfaction/utility. Many of the happiness theorists seem to suggest that having more income decreases happiness past a certain threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gregory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-188037</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On revealed preference, won&#039;t this fail to answer the important question?  It&#039;s probably fairly well accepted that most people &lt;em&gt;believe&lt;/em&gt; that greater income means more happiness, but if what we want to know is if they&#039;re correct on this, then looking at whether or not people actually pursue greater incomes isn&#039;t going to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On revealed preference, won&#8217;t this fail to answer the important question?  It&#8217;s probably fairly well accepted that most people <em>believe</em> that greater income means more happiness, but if what we want to know is if they&#8217;re correct on this, then looking at whether or not people actually pursue greater incomes isn&#8217;t going to help.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the problem of bounded and unbounded statistics is well-understood and isn&#039;t a serious difficulty in the present context. There&#039;s a huge literature on estimation of relationships involving limited (i.e bounded) and ordered categorical variables, to which I have made some very minor contributions.

For a good introduction, try:

Greene, W. 2003. Econometric Analysis, Prentice Hall: New Jersey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Indeed, the problem of bounded and unbounded statistics is well-understood and isn&#8217;t a serious difficulty in the present context. There&#8217;s a huge literature on estimation of relationships involving limited (i.e bounded) and ordered categorical variables, to which I have made some very minor contributions.</p>

	<p>For a good introduction, try:</p>

	<p>Greene, W. 2003. Econometric Analysis, Prentice Hall: New Jersey</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Holsclaw</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-188012</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Holsclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sebastian: Comparing bounded and unbounded statistics is a well-understood problem in econometrics.&quot;

Oh thank GOD you cleared that up!  Want to clue us in on the understanding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Sebastian: Comparing bounded and unbounded statistics is a well-understood problem in econometrics.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Oh thank <span class="caps">GOD</span> you cleared that up!  Want to clue us in on the understanding?</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-187982</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 I don&#039;t buy this at all. First up, I doubt that it&#039;s true that the proportion of people who&#039;ve experienced intensely pleasurable sex has been constant over time. In particular, I think it&#039;s almost certainly higher now than in, say, 1950.

More importantly, I doubt that this is the kind of experience people use to anchor their scale. I suspect if you asked people to nominate directly the times when they&#039;ve been happiest, that things like holidays would figure pretty strongly. Also weddings and honeymoons, I imagine, which opens up some interesting issues for debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#57 I don&#8217;t buy this at all. First up, I doubt that it&#8217;s true that the proportion of people who&#8217;ve experienced intensely pleasurable sex has been constant over time. In particular, I think it&#8217;s almost certainly higher now than in, say, 1950.</p>

	<p>More importantly, I doubt that this is the kind of experience people use to anchor their scale. I suspect if you asked people to nominate directly the times when they&#8217;ve been happiest, that things like holidays would figure pretty strongly. Also weddings and honeymoons, I imagine, which opens up some interesting issues for debate.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-187956</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also worth mentioning that the 5, 7, 9, here are not really numbers. They&#039;re categories, akin to &quot;very happy&quot; or &quot;moderately happy&quot; or what have you.

In that sense, even if the criteria were clear and non-relative, the &quot;numbers&quot; may obscure more than they reveal. But if you set the survey up correctly, it may still be useful to help determine whether happiness increases with income, etc.

(A methodological problem with the &quot;video&quot; example above is that respondents may have their own personal relative rankings of how happy all the people in the video are! So you might dictate that a &quot;7&quot; means as happy as this guy, but someone might think that the person dictated as a &quot;6&quot; actually looked more happy. You could try to work around this maybe, by having them perform the relative rankings of the 10 people themselves...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It is also worth mentioning that the 5, 7, 9, here are not really numbers. They&#8217;re categories, akin to &#8220;very happy&#8221; or &#8220;moderately happy&#8221; or what have you.</p>

	<p>In that sense, even if the criteria were clear and non-relative, the &#8220;numbers&#8221; may obscure more than they reveal. But if you set the survey up correctly, it may still be useful to help determine whether happiness increases with income, etc.</p>

	<p>(A methodological problem with the &#8220;video&#8221; example above is that respondents may have their own personal relative rankings of how happy all the people in the video are! So you might dictate that a &#8220;7&#8221; means as happy as this guy, but someone might think that the person dictated as a &#8220;6&#8221; actually looked more happy. You could try to work around this maybe, by having them perform the relative rankings of the 10 people themselves&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-187935</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Indeed, mk, but of course if you had the criteria the sensible thing to do would be to ask “how often each day do you experience unimaginable bliss/contentment/quiet desperation/suicidal depression and then compute your own scale. The request for a number from 1 to 10 is an indication that there’s nothing better available.&lt;/i&gt;

A fair point, but there may be other examples of guidelines which are clear guidelines but not really numerical. Like for example, &quot;watch this video. A 5 means you are as happy as this guy. A 7 means you are as happy as this woman. A 9 means you are as happy as this person.&quot; etc.

Of course, people need to interpret that person&#039;s happiness and compare themselves to it, which is arguably still an unclear task. But, also arguably, there is now more comparability among groups, because you have made the points of comparison clearer.

I&#039;m not saying this is particular survey idea is a very good one. Just that one can imagine ways to make the survey less relative even without giving them really numerical instructions (like &quot;how many times a day do you feel XYZ&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Indeed, mk, but of course if you had the criteria the sensible thing to do would be to ask &#8220;how often each day do you experience unimaginable bliss/contentment/quiet desperation/suicidal depression and then compute your own scale. The request for a number from 1 to 10 is an indication that there&#8217;s nothing better available.</i></p>

	<p>A fair point, but there may be other examples of guidelines which are clear guidelines but not really numerical. Like for example, &#8220;watch this video. <span class="caps">A 5</span> means you are as happy as this guy. <span class="caps">A 7</span> means you are as happy as this woman. <span class="caps">A 9</span> means you are as happy as this person.&#8221; etc.</p>

	<p>Of course, people need to interpret that person&#8217;s happiness and compare themselves to it, which is arguably still an unclear task. But, also arguably, there is now more comparability among groups, because you have made the points of comparison clearer.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m not saying this is particular survey idea is a very good one. Just that one can imagine ways to make the survey less relative even without giving them really numerical instructions (like &#8220;how many times a day do you feel <span class="caps">XYZ</span>&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: jls</title>
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		<dc:creator>jls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you accept Runcimans concept of Relative Deprivation developed in Britain in the late sixties, basically that as wealth rises people continually raise the bar below which they feel deprived, then I cannot see why you would have a problem with Relative happiness. Yes we have more holidays, free time and material goods but most of this is what we expect. So we don&#039;t rate ourselves as extremely happy. Or overly satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you accept Runcimans concept of Relative Deprivation developed in Britain in the late sixties, basically that as wealth rises people continually raise the bar below which they feel deprived, then I cannot see why you would have a problem with Relative happiness. Yes we have more holidays, free time and material goods but most of this is what we expect. So we don&#8217;t rate ourselves as extremely happy. Or overly satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: tom hurka</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom hurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;average reported happiness can&#039;t change much from generation to generation (since everyone is assessing it relative to their own experience)&quot;

Conchis&#039;s replies have been bang-on. The assessments are made relative to peak happiness experiences, e.g. falling in love, which there&#039;s no reason to assume change from generation to generation. (Do orgasms feel different for Americans now than they did in the 1950s?) The assessment then is of how close the rest of a person&#039;s life is to that peak. One might have expected people with bigger houses, faster cars, and more entertainment options to be closer to the peak more of the time. If they say they&#039;re not -- if the extra wealth hasn&#039;t improved their non-peak experiences -- that&#039;s informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;average reported happiness can&#8217;t change much from generation to generation (since everyone is assessing it relative to their own experience)&#8221;</p>

	<p>Conchis&#8217;s replies have been bang-on. The assessments are made relative to peak happiness experiences, e.g. falling in love, which there&#8217;s no reason to assume change from generation to generation. (Do orgasms feel different for Americans now than they did in the 1950s?) The assessment then is of how close the rest of a person&#8217;s life is to that peak. One might have expected people with bigger houses, faster cars, and more entertainment options to be closer to the peak more of the time. If they say they&#8217;re not&#8212;if the extra wealth hasn&#8217;t improved their non-peak experiences&#8212;that&#8217;s informative.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-187894</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, mk, but of course if you had the criteria the sensible thing to do would be to ask &quot;how often each day do you experience unimaginable bliss/contentment/quiet desperation/suicidal depression and then compute your own scale. The request for a number from 1 to 10 is an indication that there&#039;s nothing better available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Indeed, mk, but of course if you had the criteria the sensible thing to do would be to ask &#8220;how often each day do you experience unimaginable bliss/contentment/quiet desperation/suicidal depression and then compute your own scale. The request for a number from 1 to 10 is an indication that there&#8217;s nothing better available.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At the hospital both before and after the appendectomy I was asked to rate my level of pain on a 1-10 scale. I remember being totally baffled and the nurses getting increasingly impatient as I tried to mull out how to assign a number to that.&lt;/i&gt;

Always tell them 9 or 10, or else they&#039;ll assign you a lower priority and fix people who said &quot;10&quot; first. Delaying appendectomy could kill you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>At the hospital both before and after the appendectomy I was asked to rate my level of pain on a 1-10 scale. I remember being totally baffled and the nurses getting increasingly impatient as I tried to mull out how to assign a number to that.</i></p>

	<p>Always tell them 9 or 10, or else they&#8217;ll assign you a lower priority and fix people who said &#8220;10&#8221; first. Delaying appendectomy could kill you.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But in reality, height does increase with (absolute) age and the problem is with the scaling of the question. A question of this kind can only give relative answers.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm. You mean in principle or just in practice?

In principle, this must be false. Clearly you could give people much more rigorous survey guidelines (e.g. &quot;a &#039;7&#039; means that you experience blah blah at least 20 times a day...&quot;), such that the measurements were accurate and absolute, not relative.

In practice, that&#039;s hard. Surely if you just say &quot;pick a number!&quot; without much explanation, who knows what you&#039;ll get.

You are putting your finger on a problem, but the problem is this:

1) We don&#039;t know how people interpret the survey question.
2) So, we don&#039;t know what their criteria are in answering it.
3) In particular, we don&#039;t know whether they answer using relative or absolute criteria.

You are positing that they answer using relative criteria, which is indeed a problem because it means that people in different groups do not have comparable scores.

The problem is not with the 1 to 10 scale, though. Those are just numerical endpoints, you can of course find a bijection between [1,10] and any other 1-dimensional numerical scale you wanted to use. It may be necessary to map &#039;10&#039; to infinity. Oh well, you throw out a value.

Of course, we may someday find out that 1 to 10 is a little silly. That depends on whether we find something we really think is a great thing to measure and call &#039;happiness&#039; (like, the percentage of time your left PFC activity is greater than right, or vice versa, I forget). Chances are if we find some actual thing we want to call the numerical measurement of happiness, the 1-10 scale will not be the most natural scale for it. 

The problem with 1 to 10 is not the numbers, or the boundedness of the numbers, but rather the lack of explanation on how to give yourself a number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But in reality, height does increase with (absolute) age and the problem is with the scaling of the question. A question of this kind can only give relative answers.</i></p>

	<p>Hmm. You mean in principle or just in practice?</p>

	<p>In principle, this must be false. Clearly you could give people much more rigorous survey guidelines (e.g. &#8220;a &#8216;7&#8217; means that you experience blah blah at least 20 times a day&#8230;&#8221;), such that the measurements were accurate and absolute, not relative.</p>

	<p>In practice, that&#8217;s hard. Surely if you just say &#8220;pick a number!&#8221; without much explanation, who knows what you&#8217;ll get.</p>

	<p>You are putting your finger on a problem, but the problem is this:</p>

	<p>1) We don&#8217;t know how people interpret the survey question.<br />
2) So, we don&#8217;t know what their criteria are in answering it.<br />
3) In particular, we don&#8217;t know whether they answer using relative or absolute criteria.</p>

	<p>You are positing that they answer using relative criteria, which is indeed a problem because it means that people in different groups do not have comparable scores.</p>

	<p>The problem is not with the 1 to 10 scale, though. Those are just numerical endpoints, you can of course find a bijection between [1,10] and any other 1-dimensional numerical scale you wanted to use. It may be necessary to map &#8216;10&#8217; to infinity. Oh well, you throw out a value.</p>

	<p>Of course, we may someday find out that 1 to 10 is a little silly. That depends on whether we find something we really think is a great thing to measure and call &#8216;happiness&#8217; (like, the percentage of time your left <span class="caps">PFC</span> activity is greater than right, or vice versa, I forget). Chances are if we find some actual thing we want to call the numerical measurement of happiness, the 1-10 scale will not be the most natural scale for it.</p>

	<p>The problem with 1 to 10 is not the numbers, or the boundedness of the numbers, but rather the lack of explanation on how to give yourself a number.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Baum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Baum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all.  Great discussion here.  I won&#039;t add much, except to say that it seems to me that the big opportunities to increase utility are not in wealthy country happiness but in the world&#039;s poorest, in livestock animals, and in basic future well-being (e.g. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nickbostrom.com/existential/risks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;existential risks&lt;/a&gt;).  I will, however, make a shameless plug for &lt;a href=&quot;http://felicifia.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Felicifia&lt;/a&gt;, an online utilitarianism community where all of the above gets discussed.  It&#039;s how I &lt;a href=&quot;http://felicifia.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=44&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;found&lt;/a&gt; this.  Yinz can post your own diaires there if you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi all.  Great discussion here.  I won&#8217;t add much, except to say that it seems to me that the big opportunities to increase utility are not in wealthy country happiness but in the world&#8217;s poorest, in livestock animals, and in basic future well-being (e.g. <a href="http://www.nickbostrom.com/existential/risks.html" rel="nofollow">existential risks</a>).  I will, however, make a shameless plug for <a href="http://felicifia.com" rel="nofollow">Felicifia</a>, an online utilitarianism community where all of the above gets discussed.  It&#8217;s how I <a href="http://felicifia.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=44" rel="nofollow">found</a> this.  Yinz can post your own diaires there if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/02/22/whats-wrong-with-happiness-measurement/comment-page-2/#comment-187838</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian: Comparing bounded and unbounded statistics is a well-understood problem in econometrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sebastian: Comparing bounded and unbounded statistics is a well-understood problem in econometrics.</p>
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