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		<title>By: Discutiile in blogosfera... &#171; Din Tara Zapezilor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discutiile in blogosfera... &#171; Din Tara Zapezilor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] si bloguri si a abuzurilor aparute in unele dintre ele. O astfel de discutie s-a purtat si pe Crooked Timber acum ceva timp. Era vorba despre un forum menit sa discute diverse aspecte ale [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roy Belmont</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-2/#comment-190461</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The evolution of defense strategies proceeds apace on top of the almost irrefutable justification for each new iteration that hey it works. Thus the big debate about torture isn&#039;t its craven sadism, it&#039;s that it&#039;s ineffective, so why bother. 
&quot;People with (durable, uniquely searchable) names cannot be cowardly in this fashion&quot; almost presumes a limit to the discussion per its local display, the particular cowardices involved in this particular manifestation at this particular time.
That cowardice has crept into, insinuated itself into, the center of the human condition, and made nobility a fairy-tale of inconvenience and absurdity becomes outside the topic, so the heck with it.
Maybe these are symptoms of some rather larger pathology?
Maybe pathologies that succeed well enough will become species in their own rights? Maybe that&#039;s what that is? Backwash from the fatal timidity of the mass, unled by anything or anyone more scrupulous than their own appetites and those who would use the great reservoir of blind power their collected appetites become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The evolution of defense strategies proceeds apace on top of the almost irrefutable justification for each new iteration that hey it works. Thus the big debate about torture isn&#8217;t its craven sadism, it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s ineffective, so why bother.<br />
&#8220;People with (durable, uniquely searchable) names cannot be cowardly in this fashion&#8221; almost presumes a limit to the discussion per its local display, the particular cowardices involved in this particular manifestation at this particular time.<br />
That cowardice has crept into, insinuated itself into, the center of the human condition, and made nobility a fairy-tale of inconvenience and absurdity becomes outside the topic, so the heck with it.<br />
Maybe these are symptoms of some rather larger pathology?<br />
Maybe pathologies that succeed well enough will become species in their own rights? Maybe that&#8217;s what that is? Backwash from the fatal timidity of the mass, unled by anything or anyone more scrupulous than their own appetites and those who would use the great reservoir of blind power their collected appetites become.</p>
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		<title>By: pdf23ds</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-2/#comment-190441</link>
		<dc:creator>pdf23ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*I* think the central issue here (what&#039;s this, the fifth one suggested?) is that internet search is adding some more characteristics to those that employers already use to (perhaps unfairly) discriminate against employees. Besides race and sex and sexual orientation, we already have plenty of others that are harder to describe, involving things like accent and posture and attractiveness. Now with the internet, we have things like political orientation and fame and other sorts of opinions and such. Would employers really want to discriminate against someone who writes really well and is persuasive and opinionated, for being too dangerous and not sheeplike?

I don&#039;t think this is a big problem. Yes, it will make it harder for some kinds of people to get a job. But then, I think that the kinds of jobs people get will start to change too. And I do think that employers will eventually learn to better understand the search results. And that includes being able to put teacup tempests into the proper perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>I</strong> think the central issue here (what&#8217;s this, the fifth one suggested?) is that internet search is adding some more characteristics to those that employers already use to (perhaps unfairly) discriminate against employees. Besides race and sex and sexual orientation, we already have plenty of others that are harder to describe, involving things like accent and posture and attractiveness. Now with the internet, we have things like political orientation and fame and other sorts of opinions and such. Would employers really want to discriminate against someone who writes really well and is persuasive and opinionated, for being too dangerous and not sheeplike?</p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a big problem. Yes, it will make it harder for some kinds of people to get a job. But then, I think that the kinds of jobs people get will start to change too. And I do think that employers will eventually learn to better understand the search results. And that includes being able to put teacup tempests into the proper perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: joeo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-2/#comment-190439</link>
		<dc:creator>joeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The autoadmit thing is a real problem.  Law firms do google applicants.  One of the things law schools don&#039;t want to see are any signs of potential problems.  They also aren&#039;t going to spend much time  investigating who is the cause of the web postings.

The real solution is to have autoadmit pull the postings at the request of the person being defamed.  Autoadmit is being a real baby about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The autoadmit thing is a real problem.  Law firms do google applicants.  One of the things law schools don&#8217;t want to see are any signs of potential problems.  They also aren&#8217;t going to spend much time  investigating who is the cause of the web postings.</p>

	<p>The real solution is to have autoadmit pull the postings at the request of the person being defamed.  Autoadmit is being a real baby about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-2/#comment-190412</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The eventual fix for this is probably employment law that prevents this, just as it prevents discrimination on gender or race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The eventual fix for this is probably employment law that prevents this, just as it prevents discrimination on gender or race.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with at least some of the people who locate a big part of the problem with the readers rather than the writers of anonymous smear sites. It would be interesting, for example, if the presence of a site such as AutoAdmit were considered prima facie evidence sufficient for discovery of a firm&#039;s hiring practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m with at least some of the people who locate a big part of the problem with the readers rather than the writers of anonymous smear sites. It would be interesting, for example, if the presence of a site such as AutoAdmit were considered prima facie evidence sufficient for discovery of a firm&#8217;s hiring practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190389</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I wonder is whether this will lead to the reverse happening soon - if employers start googling their employees as a standard practise, will potential employees start deliberately ensuring their name appears on high traffic sites making statements that act to support their applications that they try to ensure appear high up in google searches. Who knows &#039;Google Grooming&#039; might become as important as a well written CV in the next decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One thing I wonder is whether this will lead to the reverse happening soon &#8211; if employers start googling their employees as a standard practise, will potential employees start deliberately ensuring their name appears on high traffic sites making statements that act to support their applications that they try to ensure appear high up in google searches. Who knows &#8216;Google Grooming&#8217; might become as important as a well written CV in the next decade.</p>
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		<title>By: chud</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190354</link>
		<dc:creator>chud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right or wrong.  Fair or unfair.  Angry or not. Objective or not.  Constructively critical or not. Anonymity has a place in both real and virtual society for all the above-referenced whistleblowing/political dissident, etc. reasons. 
That said, I think that in today&#039;s job market, you really can&#039;t be too careful to post anything under your real name because you never know exactly how a potential employer will react when they run their inevitable web search.  

What you may consider innocuous and beneficial may translate into an obnoxious liability.  Employers, I have found, really don&#039;t want employees who can think for themselves or have sufficient chutzpah to participate in anything that affects change either politically, socially or otherwise.  

The bottom line is that most of them want compliant drones just smart enough to do XYZ task and that&#039;s it.  You check your 1st Amendment right at the door along with all your other rights employers have been steadily usurping /running roughshod over the years (drug screening, credit checking, etc.)  Using your real name to post anything online is career suicide, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Right or wrong.  Fair or unfair.  Angry or not. Objective or not.  Constructively critical or not. Anonymity has a place in both real and virtual society for all the above-referenced whistleblowing/political dissident, etc. reasons.<br />
That said, I think that in today&#8217;s job market, you really can&#8217;t be too careful to post anything under your real name because you never know exactly how a potential employer will react when they run their inevitable web search.</p>

	<p>What you may consider innocuous and beneficial may translate into an obnoxious liability.  Employers, I have found, really don&#8217;t want employees who can think for themselves or have sufficient chutzpah to participate in anything that affects change either politically, socially or otherwise.</p>

	<p>The bottom line is that most of them want compliant drones just smart enough to do <span class="caps">XYZ</span> task and that&#8217;s it.  You check your 1st Amendment right at the door along with all your other rights employers have been steadily usurping /running roughshod over the years (drug screening, credit checking, etc.)  Using your real name to post anything online is career suicide, <span class="caps">IMO</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy W</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These recent posts give me the impression that Joshua Burton has the most workable solution - a convention that anonymous accusations don&#039;t count for anything - unless you&#039;re a police officer or otherwise in a situation to start a proper investigation. 

So we need to start scoffing whenever anyone mentions dodgy, anonymous information obtained via Google (though a person&#039;s homepage of course may be very relevant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>These recent posts give me the impression that Joshua Burton has the most workable solution &#8211; a convention that anonymous accusations don&#8217;t count for anything &#8211; unless you&#8217;re a police officer or otherwise in a situation to start a proper investigation.</p>

	<p>So we need to start scoffing whenever anyone mentions dodgy, anonymous information obtained via Google (though a person&#8217;s homepage of course may be very relevant).</p>
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		<title>By: dave heasman</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190323</link>
		<dc:creator>dave heasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but Harry - &quot;Think of yourself in a medium sized town in 1910, with no expectation of leaving, so needing to get a job, or whatever, within the town. Your reputation was probably pretty public, and pretty unshakeable. Geographical mobility opened up a certain ability to leave one’s reputation behind, at least for the class of people who used geographical mobility&quot;

 This was something my father and many of his generation had to deal with as an electrician moving locations. He and his fellows solved it by joining the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffalos, a sort of friendly society that also saddled members with obligations not to do crap work or rip people off, and in return the members would look out for you in the workplace, get you gigs etc. For a while between the 20s and 60s I think it was pretty effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Off topic, but Harry &#8211; &#8220;Think of yourself in a medium sized town in 1910, with no expectation of leaving, so needing to get a job, or whatever, within the town. Your reputation was probably pretty public, and pretty unshakeable. Geographical mobility opened up a certain ability to leave one&#8217;s reputation behind, at least for the class of people who used geographical mobility&#8221;</p>

	<p>This was something my father and many of his generation had to deal with as an electrician moving locations. He and his fellows solved it by joining the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffalos, a sort of friendly society that also saddled members with obligations not to do crap work or rip people off, and in return the members would look out for you in the workplace, get you gigs etc. For a while between the 20s and 60s I think it was pretty effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190322</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not fight fire with fire?  Make up anonymous comments complaining that such and such male student is a rapist and sexual harasser.  Then see how long the authorities continue to think there&#039;s nothing they can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why not fight fire with fire?  Make up anonymous comments complaining that such and such male student is a rapist and sexual harasser.  Then see how long the authorities continue to think there&#8217;s nothing they can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua W. Burton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190315</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua W. Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy Belmont writes:

&lt;i&gt;– it’s cowardice that harms us here, not anonymity.&lt;/i&gt;

...which is just the point of drawing a class line.  People with (durable, uniquely searchable) names &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; be cowardly in this fashion:  thanks to search, they necessarily stand behind their words forever.  And &quot;cowardice&quot; is not even a category that can be applied to the others; they are simply transparent wraiths with regard to any matter of honor.  Servants will talk belowstairs, of course, but they are powerless to accuse (save in open court, where all are equal under the law&#039;s protection, and even anonymous whistleblowers can give &lt;i&gt;factual&lt;/i&gt; testimony).

The women who were wronged in this case would have been protected, if they had been able to rely on a broad and inflexible polite convention that anonymous words bear only factual or analytical, never moral or social, weight.  &quot;Well, yes, one hears all sorts of things from under &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; rock.  Do you find it amusing?  I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t.&quot;  The vulgarian is abashed, someone coughs nervously, and the committee moves on to the candidate&#039;s letters of recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Roy Belmont writes:</p>

	<p><i>&#8211; it&#8217;s cowardice that harms us here, not anonymity.</i></p>

	<p>&#8230;which is just the point of drawing a class line.  People with (durable, uniquely searchable) names <i>cannot</i> be cowardly in this fashion:  thanks to search, they necessarily stand behind their words forever.  And &#8220;cowardice&#8221; is not even a category that can be applied to the others; they are simply transparent wraiths with regard to any matter of honor.  Servants will talk belowstairs, of course, but they are powerless to accuse (save in open court, where all are equal under the law&#8217;s protection, and even anonymous whistleblowers can give <i>factual</i> testimony).</p>

	<p>The women who were wronged in this case would have been protected, if they had been able to rely on a broad and inflexible polite convention that anonymous words bear only factual or analytical, never moral or social, weight.  &#8220;Well, yes, one hears all sorts of things from under <i>that</i> rock.  Do you find it amusing?  I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t.&#8221;  The vulgarian is abashed, someone coughs nervously, and the committee moves on to the candidate&#8217;s letters of recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: roy belmont</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190308</link>
		<dc:creator>roy belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issue is cowardice, not anonymity - or anonymity-on-the-internet. Cowardice is such an acceptable aspect of character now that it&#039;s used as a justification for otherwise grave dubious acts. People do things because they were &quot;in danger&quot;, while at the same time paying lip service to those who risk themselves in dangerous situations. In 2003 an American soldier addressed this in a blindly recursive way: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567660897.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;I think they&#039;re cowards,&quot; Boggs said&lt;/a&gt; of the parents or Fedayeen paramilitaries who send out children to the battlefield.

&quot;I think they thought we wouldn&#039;t shoot kids. But we showed them we don&#039;t care. We are going to do what we have to do to stay alive and keep ourselves safe.&quot; 
Doing what we have to do. As opposed to doing what honor says needs to be done, i.e. when a fireman enters a building that may collapse or explode etc.
This confusion about bravery and risk and selfishness is culture-wide, and nowhere more virulent than in anonymous flame wars and the physical security of the internet&#039;s fora. 
People did these things with telephones and anonymous tips before there were home computers, and they surely did them when all they had to hand were surreptitious notes and whispers. The flaw is in the man not the media - it&#039;s cowardice that harms us here, not anonymity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The real issue is cowardice, not anonymity &#8211; or anonymity-on-the-internet. Cowardice is such an acceptable aspect of character now that it&#8217;s used as a justification for otherwise grave dubious acts. People do things because they were &#8220;in danger&#8221;, while at the same time paying lip service to those who risk themselves in dangerous situations. In 2003 an American soldier addressed this in a blindly recursive way:<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567660897.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;I think they&#8217;re cowards,&#8221; Boggs said</a> of the parents or Fedayeen paramilitaries who send out children to the battlefield.</p>

	<p>&#8220;I think they thought we wouldn&#8217;t shoot kids. But we showed them we don&#8217;t care. We are going to do what we have to do to stay alive and keep ourselves safe.&#8221;<br />
Doing what we have to do. As opposed to doing what honor says needs to be done, i.e. when a fireman enters a building that may collapse or explode etc.<br />
This confusion about bravery and risk and selfishness is culture-wide, and nowhere more virulent than in anonymous flame wars and the physical security of the internet&#8217;s fora.<br />
People did these things with telephones and anonymous tips before there were home computers, and they surely did them when all they had to hand were surreptitious notes and whispers. The flaw is in the man not the media &#8211; it&#8217;s cowardice that harms us here, not anonymity.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say anything on the internet has to be assumed to be permanent - even if in many cases it will disappear, there is little guarantee of it. I dont think there is any issue of anonymity relating to this either, the original author may be identifiable or not, even if they arent the people retaining the potentially libelous material can always be identified if necessary, and are the first point of contact for removing or pursuing legal options anyway.

The only marginal cases I can see is where material has been removed from the website, but is still located via the google cache or similar resources - this is only temporary of course, and they have been known to remove material from the cache on request in a few cases - effectively they can be treated as another publisher of the same material and pursued separately, in which case they are likely to remove it without too much fuss, as they have little to gain trying to keep questionable material cached once it has been removed from the original site.

Another potential problem is jurisdiction, and is something I consider likely to be one of the big issues in the coming years, I can see a potential push from some areas for an agency like the UN to develop a unified set of laws and judiciary for the internet (even if I also see its unlikely to come about due to the politics), otherwise unscrupulous website creators will be able to dodge many laws just by siting their servers in some country that sees an advantage in allowing lax laws in this area to get the extra business/tax; Nigeria would seem like a potential front runner at this time, but this could easily change, and possibly different types of abuse might find different homes - you might start phishing businesses in Nigeria, spam in Russia, copyright abuse in China, etc., based on which country has the best legal environment to protect your particular speciality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would say anything on the internet has to be assumed to be permanent &#8211; even if in many cases it will disappear, there is little guarantee of it. I dont think there is any issue of anonymity relating to this either, the original author may be identifiable or not, even if they arent the people retaining the potentially libelous material can always be identified if necessary, and are the first point of contact for removing or pursuing legal options anyway.</p>

	<p>The only marginal cases I can see is where material has been removed from the website, but is still located via the google cache or similar resources &#8211; this is only temporary of course, and they have been known to remove material from the cache on request in a few cases &#8211; effectively they can be treated as another publisher of the same material and pursued separately, in which case they are likely to remove it without too much fuss, as they have little to gain trying to keep questionable material cached once it has been removed from the original site.</p>

	<p>Another potential problem is jurisdiction, and is something I consider likely to be one of the big issues in the coming years, I can see a potential push from some areas for an agency like the UN to develop a unified set of laws and judiciary for the internet (even if I also see its unlikely to come about due to the politics), otherwise unscrupulous website creators will be able to dodge many laws just by siting their servers in some country that sees an advantage in allowing lax laws in this area to get the extra business/tax; Nigeria would seem like a potential front runner at this time, but this could easily change, and possibly different types of abuse might find different homes &#8211; you might start phishing businesses in Nigeria, spam in Russia, copyright abuse in China, etc., based on which country has the best legal environment to protect your particular speciality.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Hunt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/03/17/anonymity-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-190306</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34 said &quot;If you consider reputations worthless, then destroying someone else’s is a casual lark rather than an act of ruthless cruelty.&quot;

This also seems implausible to me.  This would mean that these pages we are talking about are actually not malicious at all.  Most of us have been assuming that they are in fact very nasty, not just innocently and amorally prankish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#34 said &#8220;If you consider reputations worthless, then destroying someone else&#8217;s is a casual lark rather than an act of ruthless cruelty.&#8221;</p>

	<p>This also seems implausible to me.  This would mean that these pages we are talking about are actually not malicious at all.  Most of us have been assuming that they are in fact very nasty, not just innocently and amorally prankish.</p>
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