Comments on: First they came for the aging, racist shock-jocks, and I said nothing … http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:51:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stephen Downes http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193530 Stephen Downes Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:46:42 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193530 So... what you're defending is the right to be racist and sexist on public radio. Why is that again? So… what you’re defending is the right to be racist and sexist on public radio.

Why is that again?

]]> By: Shelby http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193503 Shelby Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:17:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193503 If Tom DeLay and Rosie O'Donnell are on the same side of an issue, it's safe to say it doesn't fit into "liberal" or "conservative" in any way meaningful to American politics. If Tom DeLay and Rosie O’Donnell are on the same side of an issue, it’s safe to say it doesn’t fit into “liberal” or “conservative” in any way meaningful to American politics.

]]> By: "Q" the Enchanter http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193494 "Q" the Enchanter Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:26:59 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193494 "Why is defense of Don Imus “Republican” push-back? Politically, Imus is a liberal...." So "liberal" was he, in fact, that he supported Bush in 2000. “Why is defense of Don Imus “Republican” push-back? Politically, Imus is a liberal….”

So “liberal” was he, in fact, that he supported Bush in 2000.

]]> By: Katherine http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193478 Katherine Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:10:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193478 At least on this side of the pond, our comparable controversy (a couple of years ago) was from a perma-tanned, racist right winger whom most people couldn't stand. Made the whole debate a bit easier. At least on this side of the pond, our comparable controversy (a couple of years ago) was from a perma-tanned, racist right winger whom most people couldn’t stand. Made the whole debate a bit easier.

]]> By: Greg http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193458 Greg Mon, 16 Apr 2007 05:25:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193458 Imus hated Clinton, which is why he supported Dole. He was a Kerry supporter, Liberal or conservative. Everyone who has ever tried to be funny has put their foot in their mouth. Imus hated Clinton, which is why he supported Dole. He was a Kerry supporter, Liberal or conservative.
Everyone who has ever tried to be funny has put their foot in their mouth.

]]> By: Jim Harrison http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193421 Jim Harrison Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:53:56 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193421 These days calling somebody a liberal doesn't tell you much about their politics. Heck, the Washington Post is supposed to be liberal despite its consistent support for Neocon foreign policies. The New York Times is supposed to be liberal, but no paper spent more effort creating and promoting the Whitewater scandal. The supposedly liberal Imus hates Gore and the Clintons. Which is probably why many Republicans put in a word for him. These days calling somebody a liberal doesn’t tell you much about their politics. Heck, the Washington Post is supposed to be liberal despite its consistent support for Neocon foreign policies. The New York Times is supposed to be liberal, but no paper spent more effort creating and promoting the Whitewater scandal. The supposedly liberal Imus hates Gore and the Clintons. Which is probably why many Republicans put in a word for him.

]]> By: Uncle Kvetch http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193417 Uncle Kvetch Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:31:26 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193417 Imus' political endorsements, in and of themselves, don't tell you much; he endorsed Bob Dole in 1996. I don't think he's really partisan; his "politics" essentially amounts to an endless wail of straight-white-male entitlement, resentment, and self-pity. Given that the overwhelming majority of other media figures who trade in that kind of rhetoric are emphatically, unapologetically right-wing, you can see where people might get the idea that he isn't exactly a "liberal" (whatever the hell that means anymore, anyway). Imus’ political endorsements, in and of themselves, don’t tell you much; he endorsed Bob Dole in 1996.

I don’t think he’s really partisan; his “politics” essentially amounts to an endless wail of straight-white-male entitlement, resentment, and self-pity. Given that the overwhelming majority of other media figures who trade in that kind of rhetoric are emphatically, unapologetically right-wing, you can see where people might get the idea that he isn’t exactly a “liberal” (whatever the hell that means anymore, anyway).

]]> By: fred lapides http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193415 fred lapides Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:09:13 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193415 here is but yet another unkind blow for the Bushies <a title="Top ex-military leaders call global warming major security risk | The Huffington Post" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070415/na-gen-us-global-warming-security" rel="nofollow">Top ex-military leaders call global warming major security risk </a> I can forgive Imus for just about anything but that dumb cowboy hat worn in New York. Beware of all people wearing funny hats. here is but yet another unkind blow for the Bushies
Top ex-military leaders call global warming major security risk

I can forgive Imus for just about anything but that dumb cowboy hat worn in New York. Beware of all people wearing funny hats.

]]> By: pushy http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193409 pushy Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:35:32 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193409 Republican pundits are just sitting back with bemusement? Hey, look, there's Tom Delay: <a HREF="http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/TomDeLay/2007/04/11/tom_delays_action_points_if_the_left_takes_imus,_we’ll_take_rosie" rel="nofollow">just look at him sitting back with bemusement.</a> Republican pundits are just sitting back with bemusement? Hey, look, there’s Tom Delay: just look at him sitting back with bemusement.

]]> By: dearieme http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193404 dearieme Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:27:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193404 We're all aging,sonny boy, but some of us proportionately more slowly than others. We’re all aging,sonny boy, but some of us proportionately more slowly than others.

]]> By: Antti Nannimus http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193403 Antti Nannimus Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:25:09 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193403 Hi, The meanness and viciousness of our entertainment media will survive intact. This is only a momentary setback. Soon the degradation and humiliation of countless others who are unable to defend themselves will resume as usual. Have a nice day, Antti Hi,

The meanness and viciousness of our entertainment media will survive intact. This is only a momentary setback. Soon the degradation and humiliation of countless others who are unable to defend themselves will resume as usual.

Have a nice day,

Antti

]]> By: Jonathan Adler http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193391 Jonathan Adler Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:05:08 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193391 John -- Lots of folks are pushing back here (wrongly in my view), including Rosie O'Donnell and the sex-crazed shock jocks that populate FM drive-time radio. Meanwhile, Republican pundits like Bill Kristol are sitting back with bemusement about the controversy. This is hardly a partisan issue. JHA John—
Lots of folks are pushing back here (wrongly in my view), including Rosie O’Donnell and the sex-crazed shock jocks that populate FM drive-time radio. Meanwhile, Republican pundits like Bill Kristol are sitting back with bemusement about the controversy. This is hardly a partisan issue.

JHA

]]> By: P O'Neill http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193388 P O'Neill Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:52:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193388 It's tough to parody the wingers now. The Wall Street Journal put the headline <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009887" rel="nofollow">First They Came for the Jews</a> on a defence of AIPAC lobbyists about to be prosecuted for receiving classified information. It’s tough to parody the wingers now. The Wall Street Journal put the headline First They Came for the Jews on a defence of AIPAC lobbyists about to be prosecuted for receiving classified information.

]]> By: John Holbo http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193384 John Holbo Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:30:24 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193384 I have never listened to Imus, jonathan. But Republican pundits certainly seem to be treating this as something they need to be pushing-back against. I have never listened to Imus, jonathan. But Republican pundits certainly seem to be treating this as something they need to be pushing-back against.

]]> By: Jonathan Adler http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-193383 Jonathan Adler Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:25:56 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/15/first-they-came-for-the-aging-racist-shock-jocks-and-i-said-nothing/#comment-193383 Why is defense of Don Imus "Republican" push-back? Politically, Imus is a liberal, who tends to support and promote Democratic political candidates and regularly features liberal commentators as guests. For myself, I'm surprised Imus has lasted on the air this long. Imus has crossed the line of acceptable discourse many times before. Now if only Cleveland radio stations would replace drive-time shock jocks with actual music . . . JHA Why is defense of Don Imus “Republican” push-back? Politically, Imus is a liberal, who tends to support and promote Democratic political candidates and regularly features liberal commentators as guests.

For myself, I’m surprised Imus has lasted on the air this long. Imus has crossed the line of acceptable discourse many times before. Now if only Cleveland radio stations would replace drive-time shock jocks with actual music . . .

JHA

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