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		<title>By: tom bach</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/04/17/the-way-we-live-and-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-194107</link>
		<dc:creator>tom bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jet, 
Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jet,<br />
Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: firstname lastname</title>
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		<dc:creator>firstname lastname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, &#039;Pak&#039; means &#039;pure&#039;. Hence Pakistan, land of the pure. Paki should be worn with pride and not just out of spite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ironically, &#8216;Pak&#8217; means &#8216;pure&#8217;. Hence Pakistan, land of the pure. Paki should be worn with pride and not just out of spite.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in OH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill in OH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>firstname lastname (#24),

I think the significance of the fact that the gentleman who stepped in was a holocaust survivor is nothing more than shear tragic irony. I&#039;m at somewhat of a loss as to why you find that concerning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>firstname lastname (#24),</p>

	<p>I think the significance of the fact that the gentleman who stepped in was a holocaust survivor is nothing more than shear tragic irony. I&#8217;m at somewhat of a loss as to why you find that concerning.</p>
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		<title>By: asm</title>
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		<dc:creator>asm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double comment. I forgot to add the links in my previous comment. Here is a link to what remains of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;original&lt;/a&gt; post and one to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004346.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on Sepia Mutiny extracting from Schlussel&#039;s original post.

What remains of the original post :
&lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve removed this entry, mostly because I am spending too much time monitoring the slimy comments from the Nazi-infested Media Matters for America cretins.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry for the double comment. I forgot to add the links in my previous comment. Here is a link to what remains of the <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html" rel="nofollow">original</a> post and one to the <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004346.html" rel="nofollow">post</a> on Sepia Mutiny extracting from Schlussel&#8217;s original post.</p>

	<p>What remains of the original post :<br />
<i>I&#8217;ve removed this entry, mostly because I am spending too much time monitoring the slimy comments from the Nazi-infested Media Matters for America cretins.</i></p>
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		<title>By: asm</title>
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		<dc:creator>asm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Bach, 
Thanks for pointing out the post by Debbie Schlussel (comment #2). She has since deleted her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;original &lt;/a&gt;comments, and replaced them with a one-liner. I don&#039;t think that one-liner can be meaningfully considered as some sort of apology for her usage of the ethnic slur &#039;Paki&#039; or for the rest of the post. You can take a look (if you must) at some of what she said in her original post under the post on the Sepia Mutiny blog linked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004346.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I suppose we cannot assume that new media will nescessarily approach topics such as these with the sensitivity they deserve or indeed even with responsibility. As we look at the way new-media is interpreting these events, I would like to observe that what gave old media a &quot;voice&quot; in the first place were credibility, responsibility and accountability. These do take time and effort to build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom Bach,<br />
Thanks for pointing out the post by Debbie Schlussel (comment #2). She has since deleted her <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html" rel="nofollow">original </a>comments, and replaced them with a one-liner. I don&#8217;t think that one-liner can be meaningfully considered as some sort of apology for her usage of the ethnic slur &#8216;Paki&#8217; or for the rest of the post. You can take a look (if you must) at some of what she said in her original post under the post on the Sepia Mutiny blog linked <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004346.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

	<p>I suppose we cannot assume that new media will nescessarily approach topics such as these with the sensitivity they deserve or indeed even with responsibility. As we look at the way new-media is interpreting these events, I would like to observe that what gave old media a &#8220;voice&#8221; in the first place were credibility, responsibility and accountability. These do take time and effort to build.</p>
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		<title>By: asm</title>
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		<dc:creator>asm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Bach, 
Thanks for pointing out the post by Debbie Schlussel (comment #2). She has since deleted her original comments, and replaced them with a one-liner. I don&#039;t think that one-liner can be meaningfully considered as some sort of apology for her usage of the ethnic slur &#039;Paki&#039; or for the rest of the post. You can take a look (if you must) at some of what she said in her original post under the post on the Sepia Mutiny blog linked here.

I suppose we cannot assume that new media will nescessarily approach topics such as these with the sensitivity they deserve or indeed even with responsibility. As we look at the way new-media is interpreting these events, I would like to observe that what gave old media a &quot;voice&quot; in the first place were credibility, responsibility and accountability. These do take time and effort to build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom Bach,<br />
Thanks for pointing out the post by Debbie Schlussel (comment #2). She has since deleted her original comments, and replaced them with a one-liner. I don&#8217;t think that one-liner can be meaningfully considered as some sort of apology for her usage of the ethnic slur &#8216;Paki&#8217; or for the rest of the post. You can take a look (if you must) at some of what she said in her original post under the post on the Sepia Mutiny blog linked here.</p>

	<p>I suppose we cannot assume that new media will nescessarily approach topics such as these with the sensitivity they deserve or indeed even with responsibility. As we look at the way new-media is interpreting these events, I would like to observe that what gave old media a &#8220;voice&#8221; in the first place were credibility, responsibility and accountability. These do take time and effort to build.</p>
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		<title>By: fred lapides</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred lapides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt that net stuff gets up faster and spreads more widely. But then it is People Magazine-like stuff. And more thoughtful stuff comes out a bit later on more nearly &quot;tradtional&quot; sources: newspapers, magazines, journals. But given the electronic and celebrity stuff that is a part of our lives, not be chand=ce then that the shooter made videos, worte a (bad) poem-like &quot;explanation,&quot; and sent it to--TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No doubt that net stuff gets up faster and spreads more widely. But then it is People Magazine-like stuff. And more thoughtful stuff comes out a bit later on more nearly &#8220;tradtional&#8221; sources: newspapers, magazines, journals. But given the electronic and celebrity stuff that is a part of our lives, not be chand=ce then that the shooter made videos, worte a (bad) poem-like &#8220;explanation,&#8221; and sent it to&#8212;TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Faster, bigger, better&quot; I am so grateful for this discussion and I object to the commodification of grief. I am not a product to drive &quot;news content&quot;. Breathless live shots are interrupted by commercials followed by Brit Hume. All Nazi all the time.
 Those students who say &quot;It was almost like you had to fight for your life.&quot; are like, the killer&#039;s roomate who had to listen to Seung play the same repeated Collective Soul song HUNDREDS of times at full volume, but wouldn&#039;t ask him to turn it down because &quot;we didn&#039;t have that kind of relationship. It would have made me uncomfortable.&quot; This stupid young man was not able to adequately respond as a human being to a clearly deranged individual that he was living with in a college dorm room. Obviously, a lot of other &quot;adults&quot; dropped the ball as well.

&quot;so it goes&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Faster, bigger, better&#8221; I am so grateful for this discussion and I object to the commodification of grief. I am not a product to drive &#8220;news content&#8221;. Breathless live shots are interrupted by commercials followed by Brit Hume. All Nazi all the time.<br />
Those students who say &#8220;It was almost like you had to fight for your life.&#8221; are like, the killer&#8217;s roomate who had to listen to Seung play the same repeated Collective Soul song <span class="caps">HUNDREDS</span> of times at full volume, but wouldn&#8217;t ask him to turn it down because &#8220;we didn&#8217;t have that kind of relationship. It would have made me uncomfortable.&#8221; This stupid young man was not able to adequately respond as a human being to a clearly deranged individual that he was living with in a college dorm room. Obviously, a lot of other &#8220;adults&#8221; dropped the ball as well.</p>

	<p>&#8220;so it goes&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Firstname Lastname</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firstname Lastname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more concerened that it is considered important that the kind gentleman who stepped in was a Holocaust survivor. In my opinion that is as relevant as what he had for dinner three days ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m more concerened that it is considered important that the kind gentleman who stepped in was a Holocaust survivor. In my opinion that is as relevant as what he had for dinner three days ago.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Bach,

You are absolutely wrong in which sense I meant &quot;pious&quot;.  You grief was obvious.  My point was that your only acceptable response was grief.  And anyone who presented a possible solution didn&#039;t really care about the deaths, which is an extremely uncharitable interpretation.

But I&#039;m sure you are a smart, interesting fellow when you aren&#039;t angry at the stupidity of it all.  Although, I expect you&#039;ll be angry for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom Bach,</p>

	<p>You are absolutely wrong in which sense I meant &#8220;pious&#8221;.  You grief was obvious.  My point was that your only acceptable response was grief.  And anyone who presented a possible solution didn&#8217;t really care about the deaths, which is an extremely uncharitable interpretation.</p>

	<p>But I&#8217;m sure you are a smart, interesting fellow when you aren&#8217;t angry at the stupidity of it all.  Although, I expect you&#8217;ll be angry for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: tom bach</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Absolutely, everyone who has a different solution than you who wasn’t piously weeping in the corner, is just a scumbag.&quot;

And Jet, questions about the Sargent Major to one side, what is my &quot;solution.&quot;  Not sure how condemnation of those who seek to use the event to forwards their own agenda (and to complete the circle I heaved a heavy object at the radio this AM when a gun control advocate asserted that a knife wielding manic would have led to fewer deaths, as if it is the number of the dead instead of the stupid senselessness of their deaths that matters.  

Plus, how on earth do you know that my weeping was &quot;pious,&quot; which I confess I take to mean you doubt its sincerity. 

How does someone with as little comprehension of the viseral revolusion that the use of these kinds of tragic events to forward any given policy preference convince Paul to write a song in your honor is beyond me.

In short, sir, go screw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Absolutely, everyone who has a different solution than you who wasn&#8217;t piously weeping in the corner, is just a scumbag.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And Jet, questions about the Sargent Major to one side, what is my &#8220;solution.&#8221;  Not sure how condemnation of those who seek to use the event to forwards their own agenda (and to complete the circle I heaved a heavy object at the radio this AM when a gun control advocate asserted that a knife wielding manic would have led to fewer deaths, as if it is the number of the dead instead of the stupid senselessness of their deaths that matters.</p>

	<p>Plus, how on earth do you know that my weeping was &#8220;pious,&#8221; which I confess I take to mean you doubt its sincerity.</p>

	<p>How does someone with as little comprehension of the viseral revolusion that the use of these kinds of tragic events to forward any given policy preference convince Paul to write a song in your honor is beyond me.</p>

	<p>In short, sir, go screw.</p>
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		<title>By: roy belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>roy belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Labonne-
&lt;i&gt;&quot;How does up-to-the-minute “coverage” of a horrible, but essentially random and meaningless, event make people better informed?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Not better informed. More satisfied. Because they get to participate in it. Which is what they&#039;ve always wanted, to go there, be there, stand right next to the grieving and watch the body bags come out of the building. 
&lt;b&gt;Four large bombs exploded across Baghdad on Wednesday, killing at least 127 people and wounding...&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steve Labonne-<br />
<i>&#8220;How does up-to-the-minute &#8220;coverage&#8221; of a horrible, but essentially random and meaningless, event make people better informed?&#8221;</i><br />
Not better informed. More satisfied. Because they get to participate in it. Which is what they&#8217;ve always wanted, to go there, be there, stand right next to the grieving and watch the body bags come out of the building.<br />
<b>Four large bombs exploded across Baghdad on Wednesday, killing at least 127 people and wounding&#8230;</b></p>
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		<title>By: C. L. Ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. L. Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I as much implied that the media culling information from the web made the events “real” in the sense that they were represented to the world on the terms set up by social web users&lt;/i&gt;

That is a good point -- radio &amp; TV broadcasters cull from the new web technics rather than interview people or record events as they happen. Contra Stuart&#039;s suggestion, this implies that the media will feed off the web. I will be the target -- the media points me to the blogs I don&#039;t read. Or maybe not, they might regard blogs, chatrooms, Myspace, etc. as sources not to be fully disclosed, in the way what jihadist websites are referred to by print journalists without listing or linking to the URL.

The crucial event: an anchor reports based on an IMC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I as much implied that the media culling information from the web made the events &#8220;real&#8221; in the sense that they were represented to the world on the terms set up by social web users</i></p>

	<p>That is a good point&#8212;radio &#038; TV broadcasters cull from the new web technics rather than interview people or record events as they happen. Contra Stuart&#8217;s suggestion, this implies that the media will feed off the web. I will be the target&#8212;the media points me to the blogs I don&#8217;t read. Or maybe not, they might regard blogs, chatrooms, Myspace, etc. as sources not to be fully disclosed, in the way what jihadist websites are referred to by print journalists without listing or linking to the <span class="caps">URL</span>.</p>

	<p>The crucial event: an anchor reports based on an <span class="caps">IMC</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Scott, for the link, and to everyone for their comments. If I&#039;m to add anything, it&#039;s to say that I as much implied that the media culling information from the web made the events &quot;real&quot; in the sense that they were represented to the world on the terms set up by social web users- but also in recognizing social web use as documentary.

Unchecked crisis-time sources are nothing new. Talk radio? I&#039;m ridiculously aware of the fatuousness of user-generated content: I spend my days trying to teach information literacy to college students. But even in the media outlets &quot;of record&quot;, i.e. the Times (and their &quot;The Victims&quot; feature), they&#039;ve attempted some sense of authenticity through interaction. 

And the disparity in coverage and emotive outpouring between the events at Virginia Tech and  those of the war aren&#039;t lost on me, especially as I watched the &quot;Writing the Wartime Experience&quot; segment of &lt;i&gt;America at a Crossroads&lt;/i&gt; Monday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks Scott, for the link, and to everyone for their comments. If I&#8217;m to add anything, it&#8217;s to say that I as much implied that the media culling information from the web made the events &#8220;real&#8221; in the sense that they were represented to the world on the terms set up by social web users- but also in recognizing social web use as documentary.</p>

	<p>Unchecked crisis-time sources are nothing new. Talk radio? I&#8217;m ridiculously aware of the fatuousness of user-generated content: I spend my days trying to teach information literacy to college students. But even in the media outlets &#8220;of record&#8221;, i.e. the Times (and their &#8220;The Victims&#8221; feature), they&#8217;ve attempted some sense of authenticity through interaction.</p>

	<p>And the disparity in coverage and emotive outpouring between the events at Virginia Tech and  those of the war aren&#8217;t lost on me, especially as I watched the &#8220;Writing the Wartime Experience&#8221; segment of <i>America at a Crossroads</i> Monday night.</p>
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		<title>By: astrongmaybe</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrongmaybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a curious quote in the NYT today from one of the kids who very bravely fought off the gunman in a classroom. He said:

“I sprinted on top of the desk to the door, because the aisle was clogged with people, and I used my foot as a wedge against the door,” recalled Mr. O’Dell. “It was almost like you had to fight for your life. If you didn’t, you died.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/us/18german.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin

That &quot;almost&quot; is interesting, since he did have to fight for his life. The way I read it, it means &quot;It was a scene like those &#039;fighting for your life&#039; scenes that you see on TV...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There was a curious quote in the <span class="caps">NYT</span> today from one of the kids who very bravely fought off the gunman in a classroom. He said:</p>

	<p>&#8220;I sprinted on top of the desk to the door, because the aisle was clogged with people, and I used my foot as a wedge against the door,&#8221; recalled Mr. O&#8217;Dell. &#8220;It was almost like you had to fight for your life. If you didn&#8217;t, you died.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/us/18german.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/us/18german.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>

	<p>That &#8220;almost&#8221; is interesting, since he did have to fight for his life. The way I read it, it means &#8220;It was a scene like those &#8216;fighting for your life&#8217; scenes that you see on TV&#8230;&#8221; </p>
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