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		<title>By: Frederick Guy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/napoleons-of-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-196538</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederick Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 12:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony Pagden describes the decline of state functions in 17th century Naples. Sicily was under the same Spanish Habsburg government. It, in decline, concentrated on squeezing out taxes and exercising control through divide-and-rule of local notables. Naples, at least, was a prosperous commercial kingdom before this. The paper appears in a volume edited by Gambetta (Trust: Making and Breaking Cooperative Relations, 1988). In his own contribution to the same volume, Gambetta picks up where Pagden leaves off, saying that the late 17th century policies of the Habsburgs were continued by the Bourbons up to 1861. He suggests that it was this environment that bred the mafia and its mainland (camorra, &#039;ndrangheta) counterparts - no need to look as far back as the Normans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anthony Pagden describes the decline of state functions in 17th century Naples. Sicily was under the same Spanish Habsburg government. It, in decline, concentrated on squeezing out taxes and exercising control through divide-and-rule of local notables. Naples, at least, was a prosperous commercial kingdom before this. The paper appears in a volume edited by Gambetta (Trust: Making and Breaking Cooperative Relations, 1988). In his own contribution to the same volume, Gambetta picks up where Pagden leaves off, saying that the late 17th century policies of the Habsburgs were continued by the Bourbons up to 1861. He suggests that it was this environment that bred the mafia and its mainland (camorra, &#8216;ndrangheta) counterparts &#8211; no need to look as far back as the Normans.</p>
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		<title>By: John Culpepper</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/napoleons-of-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-196197</link>
		<dc:creator>John Culpepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 02:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is real resentment in Sicily against the northern government. This has doubtless been fomented by the Church, resentful of the loss of its secular power. In any case, one of my Sicilian step relatives told me recently in all sincerity that all the problems of the South were due to unification and that Sicily had been far better off under the Bourbon monarchy. Like large numbers of Sicilians (unfortunately) his family is  cynical and fatalistic and tend to be neo-fascist (as well as blatantly racist and highly anti-immigrant-- though they employ a Filipino houseboy). They support George Bush.

Maybe this had something to do with it. Though a constitutional monarchy, the Piedmont government was a militarist state modelled somewhat on Prussia in which the army was directly under the control of the king (not parliament). After unification he used it on his own citizens, mercilessly putting down peasant and worker revolts and permanently alienating them in the process, historians think. (He also used it on a series of futile and doomed North African adventures, just as we are doing in Iraq.)

Wikipedia describes it:

&quot;A long extensive guerrilla campaign against the unionists (1861-1871) took place throughout southern Italy, and in Sicily, inducing the Italian governments to a ferocious military repression. Ruled under martial law for many years Sicily (and southern Italy) was ravaged by the Italian army that summarily executed thousands of people, made tens of thousands prisoners, destroyed villages, and deported people. The Sicilian economy collapsed, leading to an unprecedented wave of emigration. In 1894 labour agitation through the radical Fasci Siciliani led again to the imposition of martial law.&quot;

And so on. It&#039;s not a nice story. Yes, under the Romans -- they had latifundia -- huge plantations run by absentee landlords and slave labor. The Spanish. The Church. But many of the problems today appear to have surprisingly recent causes that are somehow obscured by the romance of criminalty. 

There is a great movie -- Salvatore Giuliano by Francesco Rossi -- for those that don&#039;t already know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There is real resentment in Sicily against the northern government. This has doubtless been fomented by the Church, resentful of the loss of its secular power. In any case, one of my Sicilian step relatives told me recently in all sincerity that all the problems of the South were due to unification and that Sicily had been far better off under the Bourbon monarchy. Like large numbers of Sicilians (unfortunately) his family is  cynical and fatalistic and tend to be neo-fascist (as well as blatantly racist and highly anti-immigrant&#8212;though they employ a Filipino houseboy). They support George Bush.</p>

	<p>Maybe this had something to do with it. Though a constitutional monarchy, the Piedmont government was a militarist state modelled somewhat on Prussia in which the army was directly under the control of the king (not parliament). After unification he used it on his own citizens, mercilessly putting down peasant and worker revolts and permanently alienating them in the process, historians think. (He also used it on a series of futile and doomed North African adventures, just as we are doing in Iraq.)</p>

	<p>Wikipedia describes it:</p>

	<p>&#8220;A long extensive guerrilla campaign against the unionists (1861-1871) took place throughout southern Italy, and in Sicily, inducing the Italian governments to a ferocious military repression. Ruled under martial law for many years Sicily (and southern Italy) was ravaged by the Italian army that summarily executed thousands of people, made tens of thousands prisoners, destroyed villages, and deported people. The Sicilian economy collapsed, leading to an unprecedented wave of emigration. In 1894 labour agitation through the radical Fasci Siciliani led again to the imposition of martial law.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And so on. It&#8217;s not a nice story. Yes, under the Romans&#8212;they had latifundia&#8212;huge plantations run by absentee landlords and slave labor. The Spanish. The Church. But many of the problems today appear to have surprisingly recent causes that are somehow obscured by the romance of criminalty.</p>

	<p>There is a great movie&#8212;Salvatore Giuliano by Francesco Rossi&#8212;for those that don&#8217;t already know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike3550</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/napoleons-of-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-196111</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike3550</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 17:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is interesting is the similarity between Gambetta&#039;s argument about the rise of the Sicilian mafia and the development of gangs in public housing projects in the United States.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iserp.columbia.edu/people/venkatesh.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sudhir Venkatesh&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s book, &lt;i&gt;American Project&lt;/i&gt; describes how the breakdown of a &quot;legitimate&quot; governance system at the Robert Taylor Homes in Chicago helped lead to the reliance on gangs as a form of protection because of the absence of state power and the distrust in the state power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What is interesting is the similarity between Gambetta&#8217;s argument about the rise of the Sicilian mafia and the development of gangs in public housing projects in the United States.  <a href="http://www.iserp.columbia.edu/people/venkatesh.html" rel="nofollow">Sudhir Venkatesh</a>&#8217;s book, <i>American Project</i> describes how the breakdown of a &#8220;legitimate&#8221; governance system at the Robert Taylor Homes in Chicago helped lead to the reliance on gangs as a form of protection because of the absence of state power and the distrust in the state power.</p>
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		<title>By: John Culpepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Culpepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is true of the Basque liberation movement as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think it is true of the Basque liberation movement as well.</p>
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		<title>By: SamChevre</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/napoleons-of-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-195944</link>
		<dc:creator>SamChevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What I don’t understand – and perhaps other readers here do – is why the forces in opposition to the state did not develop into a self-conscious nationalist movement, and instead took the form of a criminal enterprise.&lt;/i&gt;

There is not that big a difference.  The IRA and the Ulstermen are both to a non-trivial extent organized crime rackets.  The same is true for a significant number of US ethnic nationalist groups(Black Panthers, American Freemen).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>What I don&#8217;t understand &#8211; and perhaps other readers here do &#8211; is why the forces in opposition to the state did not develop into a self-conscious nationalist movement, and instead took the form of a criminal enterprise.</i></p>

	<p>There is not that big a difference.  The <span class="caps">IRA</span> and the Ulstermen are both to a non-trivial extent organized crime rackets.  The same is true for a significant number of US ethnic nationalist groups(Black Panthers, American Freemen).</p>
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		<title>By: john culpepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>john culpepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greek was spoken in Sicily until Frederick II (of Hoenstauffen) made Italian the official court language of Sicily (including Apulia). He brought lots of Lombards (northern Italians) into Sicily and they are still there and are still called &quot;Lombards.&quot;  

The highly cultivated Frederick (d.circ 1250) (and his circle) who wrote in Sicilian is/are considered the first poet/s to write in the Italian vernacular. Except for some regular sound changes, Sicilian resembles Italian more than Calabrian or other dialects (such as Sardinian or even Neapolitan) do. 
 
All Sicilians remember that their greatest period of prosperity was under the Arabs and ended with the reign of Frederick.

I always heard that the MAFIA dates from the time of the Sicilian Vespers, the great revolt against the Angevins, whom the Pope intalled to replace Frederick (accused of heresy and irreligion) and that it somehow stood for Morte ai Francesi (death to the French). 

However, I can believe this view has been superseded and that that present Mafia and the word really date from a nineteenth century novel. In any case, it is clear that organized crime in Sicily, Naples, and Calabria has undergone many changes, particularly in the last 20 years, becoming logarhythmicallly more murderous, international, and even mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Greek was spoken in Sicily until Frederick <span class="caps">II </span>(of Hoenstauffen) made Italian the official court language of Sicily (including Apulia). He brought lots of Lombards (northern Italians) into Sicily and they are still there and are still called &#8220;Lombards.&#8221;</p>

	<p>The highly cultivated Frederick (d.circ 1250) (and his circle) who wrote in Sicilian is/are considered the first poet/s to write in the Italian vernacular. Except for some regular sound changes, Sicilian resembles Italian more than Calabrian or other dialects (such as Sardinian or even Neapolitan) do.</p>

	<p>All Sicilians remember that their greatest period of prosperity was under the Arabs and ended with the reign of Frederick.</p>

	<p>I always heard that the <span class="caps">MAFIA</span> dates from the time of the Sicilian Vespers, the great revolt against the Angevins, whom the Pope intalled to replace Frederick (accused of heresy and irreligion) and that it somehow stood for Morte ai Francesi (death to the French).</p>

	<p>However, I can believe this view has been superseded and that that present Mafia and the word really date from a nineteenth century novel. In any case, it is clear that organized crime in Sicily, Naples, and Calabria has undergone many changes, particularly in the last 20 years, becoming logarhythmicallly more murderous, international, and even mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not &quot;beating&quot; Sicilians for speaking Sicilian, which is a language, not a dialect.  Compare the status of Sicilian, which although spoken by perhaps 4 million people is not used for official purposes, is not the language of any newspaper, is not a language of instruction in schools, and is not taught in universities (although it does have a literature), with, say, the status of Catalan, Basque or Irish Gaelic.  My point is that in some ways Sicily resembles a colony and it is not terribly surprising that some Silicians have historically seen the national government as an occupying power and have instead turned to indigenous providers of social order.  

What I don&#039;t understand - and perhaps other readers here do - is why the forces in opposition to the state did not develop into a self-conscious nationalist movement, and instead took the form of a criminal enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;beating&#8221; Sicilians for speaking Sicilian, which is a language, not a dialect.  Compare the status of Sicilian, which although spoken by perhaps 4 million people is not used for official purposes, is not the language of any newspaper, is not a language of instruction in schools, and is not taught in universities (although it does have a literature), with, say, the status of Catalan, Basque or Irish Gaelic.  My point is that in some ways Sicily resembles a colony and it is not terribly surprising that some Silicians have historically seen the national government as an occupying power and have instead turned to indigenous providers of social order.</p>

	<p>What I don&#8217;t understand &#8211; and perhaps other readers here do &#8211; is why the forces in opposition to the state did not develop into a self-conscious nationalist movement, and instead took the form of a criminal enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: avm</title>
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		<dc:creator>avm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to no. 16: let&#039;s not beat Sicily for using the Sicilian dialect. Many regions in Italy use primarily their dialect, rather than the official version. I have friends from Bassano di Grappa, Veneto, who say that in school, most kids where speaking in dialect especially because they were coming from different regions (gossiping, making fun, etc).  Italy was united very late - hence the dominance of dialects over the official language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>to no. 16: let&#8217;s not beat Sicily for using the Sicilian dialect. Many regions in Italy use primarily their dialect, rather than the official version. I have friends from Bassano di Grappa, Veneto, who say that in school, most kids where speaking in dialect especially because they were coming from different regions (gossiping, making fun, etc).  Italy was united very late &#8211; hence the dominance of dialects over the official language.</p>
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		<title>By: zevatron</title>
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		<dc:creator>zevatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not confuse two different things: the emergence of the Sicilian Mafia in Sicily itself, and the Sicilian Mafia and its activities in the US.  
Gambetta seems to speak (at least from what I get from the post) only about the former. Somin primarily refers to the latter, particularly in regards to the Italian immigrant population in NYC. By the time they arrived there was clearly a functioning state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Let&#8217;s not confuse two different things: the emergence of the Sicilian Mafia in Sicily itself, and the Sicilian Mafia and its activities in the US.<br />
Gambetta seems to speak (at least from what I get from the post) only about the former. Somin primarily refers to the latter, particularly in regards to the Italian immigrant population in <span class="caps">NYC</span>. By the time they arrived there was clearly a functioning state.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sicily has never been fully integrated into Italy.  It was a separate kingdom in the middle ages, then ruled by Spain, then Austria, then by a hated and violently repressive Neopolitan Bourbon monarchy, then by a central government in Rome.  Even today the first language of most Sicilians is Sicilian, not Italian.  After the Risorgimento Sicily rose in a rebellion seeking independence, which was put down by force, and a low-grade civil war continued for decades as Sicily was governed under martial law.  The mafia did not arise and flourish under a condition of a &quot;weak state&quot; - it arose under a condition of an oppressive military occupation by a succession of foreign occupiers who had no popular legitimacy.  The interesting question is not why the mafia came into existence.  It is why the mafia evolved into a multi-national criminal organization, instead of a violently nationalist movement for independence along the lines of, say, the IRA or ETA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sicily has never been fully integrated into Italy.  It was a separate kingdom in the middle ages, then ruled by Spain, then Austria, then by a hated and violently repressive Neopolitan Bourbon monarchy, then by a central government in Rome.  Even today the first language of most Sicilians is Sicilian, not Italian.  After the Risorgimento Sicily rose in a rebellion seeking independence, which was put down by force, and a low-grade civil war continued for decades as Sicily was governed under martial law.  The mafia did not arise and flourish under a condition of a &#8220;weak state&#8221; &#8211; it arose under a condition of an oppressive military occupation by a succession of foreign occupiers who had no popular legitimacy.  The interesting question is not why the mafia came into existence.  It is why the mafia evolved into a multi-national criminal organization, instead of a violently nationalist movement for independence along the lines of, say, the <span class="caps">IRA</span> or <span class="caps">ETA</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished reading Peter Turchin&#039;s &quot;War and Peace and War&quot;, and he makes the argument that the pathology of Sicily and Southern Italy dates back two thoursand years.  In other words, the mafia arose out of the Roman misgovernment of the island!

However, many more conventional historians trace the mafia to the secret societies that organized to liberate Sicily from the French, in the thirteenth century.  The &quot;Kingdom of the two Sicilies&quot; that predates the Risorgimento was considered to be the most backward country in Europe, and many Italians think that incorporating it was a serious mistake.

Has anyone noticed that alot of the Italian-American mythos is a celebration of southern Italian, and often specifically Sicilian culture?  By most evidence this area has been one of the more dysfunctional in the world.  You would thihk Italian-Americans would want to downplay their connection to the region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just finished reading Peter Turchin&#8217;s &#8220;War and Peace and War&#8221;, and he makes the argument that the pathology of Sicily and Southern Italy dates back two thoursand years.  In other words, the mafia arose out of the Roman misgovernment of the island!</p>

	<p>However, many more conventional historians trace the mafia to the secret societies that organized to liberate Sicily from the French, in the thirteenth century.  The &#8220;Kingdom of the two Sicilies&#8221; that predates the Risorgimento was considered to be the most backward country in Europe, and many Italians think that incorporating it was a serious mistake.</p>

	<p>Has anyone noticed that alot of the Italian-American mythos is a celebration of southern Italian, and often specifically Sicilian culture?  By most evidence this area has been one of the more dysfunctional in the world.  You would thihk Italian-Americans would want to downplay their connection to the region.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>valuethinker, look at the people who are enthused about such systems.  In my experience, they tend to be right-wing whackjobs, or simply rather strange, not well-connected to the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>valuethinker, look at the people who are enthused about such systems.  In my experience, they tend to be right-wing whackjobs, or simply rather strange, not well-connected to the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuethinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuethinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another postulated libertarian state is the first of Joe Haldeman&#039;s &#039;Worlds&#039; trilogy.

Nevada is an independent libertarian nation.  Personal nuclear weapons are legal (see also Marc Stigler&#039;s &#039;Dad&#039;s Nuke&#039; and the Algys Budrys novel &#039;Some will Not Die&#039;).  Kidnapping is a legal and large industry, etc.

I always wonder what is supposed to be attractive about such places, as opposed to say, the modern UK or Scandinavian countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Another postulated libertarian state is the first of Joe Haldeman&#8217;s &#8216;Worlds&#8217; trilogy.</p>

	<p>Nevada is an independent libertarian nation.  Personal nuclear weapons are legal (see also Marc Stigler&#8217;s &#8216;Dad&#8217;s Nuke&#8217; and the Algys Budrys novel &#8216;Some will Not Die&#8217;).  Kidnapping is a legal and large industry, etc.</p>

	<p>I always wonder what is supposed to be attractive about such places, as opposed to say, the modern UK or Scandinavian countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuethinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuethinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any linkage of the Mafia to the Normans has to explain why Sicily has the cosa nostra, and Normandy and England (and Ireland) don&#039;t.  

http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1920825,00.html

Probably it has something to do with the long periods Sicily spent under foreign rule.  Once the Norman kingdom was displaced it was Spanish rule, I think, for pretty much 700 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Any linkage of the Mafia to the Normans has to explain why Sicily has the cosa nostra, and Normandy and England (and Ireland) don&#8217;t.</p>

	<p><a href="http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1920825,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1920825,00.html</a></p>

	<p>Probably it has something to do with the long periods Sicily spent under foreign rule.  Once the Norman kingdom was displaced it was Spanish rule, I think, for pretty much 700 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuethinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuethinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone read &#039;The Syndic&#039; by Cyril M. Kornbluth?

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/k/c-m-kornbluth/syndic.htm

The US government is replaced by a mafia-based government system, and then fights to restore itself.

The novel is surprisingly sympathetic to &#039;family based&#039; government.

CMK was one of the great social commentator science fiction writers (see &#039;Not this August&#039; for the definitive US-after-Soviet-invasion novel, and &#039;The Space Merchants&#039; for the world is run by advertising agencies (50 years after publication, much of that world has come to pass, it reads less like satire, and more like prophecy)).

His tragic early death (he was a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge, and had fatally strained his heart fighting in the snows and so died at 35 of a heart attack) robbed science fiction of one of its great authors.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anyone read &#8216;The Syndic&#8217; by Cyril M. Kornbluth?</p>

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	<p>The US government is replaced by a mafia-based government system, and then fights to restore itself.</p>

	<p>The novel is surprisingly sympathetic to &#8216;family based&#8217; government.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">CMK</span> was one of the great social commentator science fiction writers (see &#8216;Not this August&#8217; for the definitive US-after-Soviet-invasion novel, and &#8216;The Space Merchants&#8217; for the world is run by advertising agencies (50 years after publication, much of that world has come to pass, it reads less like satire, and more like prophecy)).</p>

	<p>His tragic early death (he was a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge, and had fatally strained his heart fighting in the snows and so died at 35 of a heart attack) robbed science fiction of one of its great authors.</p>

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