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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197272</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt -- AFAIK, the sales reported to the IRS include the tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt&#8212;<span class="caps">AFAIK</span>, the sales reported to the <span class="caps">IRS</span> include the tax.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197223</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 07:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quo Vadis, the phrase &quot;implied contract&quot; has a legal meaning. If we have an implied contract, you provide services and I refuse to pay, then you can take me to court and make me pay. Giving tips is customary but not mandatory, same as dropping coins into street performer&#039;s hat or giving spare change to a homeless; it&#039;s definitely not an implied contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Quo Vadis, the phrase &#8220;implied contract&#8221; has a legal meaning. If we have an implied contract, you provide services and I refuse to pay, then you can take me to court and make me pay. Giving tips is customary but not mandatory, same as dropping coins into street performer&#8217;s hat or giving spare change to a homeless; it&#8217;s definitely not an implied contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197203</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 03:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I also delivered news papers for several years, but at least in the area where I did it even excellent service (always early, right on the door, never wet, etc.) got only a tiny amount of tips so I soon decided it just wasn&#039;t worth the extra effort.  Nowadays, though, I think papers are mostly delivered by adults and not by 12 year old kids on bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, I also delivered news papers for several years, but at least in the area where I did it even excellent service (always early, right on the door, never wet, etc.) got only a tiny amount of tips so I soon decided it just wasn&#8217;t worth the extra effort.  Nowadays, though, I think papers are mostly delivered by adults and not by 12 year old kids on bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197202</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 02:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do people normally count the tax when figuring out the tip?  for a long time I always did, but then had some friends who insisted this was wrong.  After that I sometimes did and sometimes didn&#039;t, partly determined radomly and partly by whether I&#039;d have enough money for a coffee in the morning w/o going to the bank machine first and things like that.  But, since it was mentioned above, I&#039;d be interested to know whether people normally include the tax when figuring in the tips.  (The only job I&#039;ve had that got tips was at a very nice coffee shop/bakery with one of those tip jars back when it was still sort of new.  Since I&#039;m hopeless at remembering people&#039;s names I did worse than some- remembering what people drank didn&#039;t seem to help as much as being able to call them by name.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Do people normally count the tax when figuring out the tip?  for a long time I always did, but then had some friends who insisted this was wrong.  After that I sometimes did and sometimes didn&#8217;t, partly determined radomly and partly by whether I&#8217;d have enough money for a coffee in the morning w/o going to the bank machine first and things like that.  But, since it was mentioned above, I&#8217;d be interested to know whether people normally include the tax when figuring in the tips.  (The only job I&#8217;ve had that got tips was at a very nice coffee shop/bakery with one of those tip jars back when it was still sort of new.  Since I&#8217;m hopeless at remembering people&#8217;s names I did worse than some- remembering what people drank didn&#8217;t seem to help as much as being able to call them by name.)</p>
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		<title>By: Quo Vadis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197182</link>
		<dc:creator>Quo Vadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 23:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No implied contract?  

Ok, so you&#039;re eating at a restaurant and it turns out that the waiter is a friend of yours.  Do you tip him because your friend expects you to pay him for his work or do you stiff him because you wouldn&#039;t want to demean your friend by implying that he&#039;s inferior or in need of charity.  

In the US, you had better tip your friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No implied contract?</p>

	<p>Ok, so you&#8217;re eating at a restaurant and it turns out that the waiter is a friend of yours.  Do you tip him because your friend expects you to pay him for his work or do you stiff him because you wouldn&#8217;t want to demean your friend by implying that he&#8217;s inferior or in need of charity.</p>

	<p>In the US, you had better tip your friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Damned Medievalist</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-2/#comment-197159</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Damned Medievalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 15:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked in restaurants for many years when in grad school, (last gig was only about 6 years ago), let me say:
Let&#039;s see -- Master/servant relationship?  Depends entirely on the customers.  It can be very much like that.
Sincerity and scripting?  Sucks for the server as much as the customer, but most chain restaurants hire &#039;shoppers&#039;, people who come in and check to see that all of these things are done.  The reality in my experience is that really good servers &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; care that the customer is having a good time and enjoying their meal.  And if the customers are jerks, then a good server will suck it up, smile, and rely on the script (and then go into the walk-in fridge and scream)
Most states allow restaurants to pay under $3/hour to servers.  They then figure in 8.5% of sales (including tax) as tips.  If the server does not average minimum wage over the week, the restaurant must pay minimum wage.  This hardly ever happens in practice.
As above, 8.5% of sales are reported as wages.   Restaurants have different policies on what happens to tips.  But the last place I worked was pretty normal.  Servers tip the bar between 5-10% of their bar sales, and their bussers 10-20% of their tips.  And kitchen staff also get tipped out. So, say you sell $1000 of food and bev, and $200 is bar stuff.  Start with 15% (which most good servers consider a bare minimum, if they work in a big city).  Of your $150 in tips, $20 goes to the bar, because you &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; piss off the bartender -- slow drinks are the kiss of death, and bad tippers get their orders moved to the end of the queue.  So you have $130 left.  Did your busser bust her ass clearing, filling waters, and keeping you informed about the tables when you were begging the kitchen to get your damned food right? The busser gets $30. Down to $100.  In the kitchen, there&#039;s an expediter, who exists solely to make sure the plates are set right, orders correct, and that the food goes out quickly if you can&#039;t get to it.  A dollar an hour per expediter/food runner -- say two on a weekend night -- $12, rounded up to $15, because you do want your food out. There you are, with $85.  Paying tax on the whole thing.  Still, if service is crap?  I tip well under 15%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having worked in restaurants for many years when in grad school, (last gig was only about 6 years ago), let me say:<br />
Let&#8217;s see&#8212;Master/servant relationship?  Depends entirely on the customers.  It can be very much like that.<br />
Sincerity and scripting?  Sucks for the server as much as the customer, but most chain restaurants hire &#8216;shoppers&#8217;, people who come in and check to see that all of these things are done.  The reality in my experience is that really good servers <i>do</i> care that the customer is having a good time and enjoying their meal.  And if the customers are jerks, then a good server will suck it up, smile, and rely on the script (and then go into the walk-in fridge and scream)<br />
Most states allow restaurants to pay under $3/hour to servers.  They then figure in 8.5% of sales (including tax) as tips.  If the server does not average minimum wage over the week, the restaurant must pay minimum wage.  This hardly ever happens in practice.<br />
As above, 8.5% of sales are reported as wages.   Restaurants have different policies on what happens to tips.  But the last place I worked was pretty normal.  Servers tip the bar between 5-10% of their bar sales, and their bussers 10-20% of their tips.  And kitchen staff also get tipped out. So, say you sell $1000 of food and bev, and $200 is bar stuff.  Start with 15% (which most good servers consider a bare minimum, if they work in a big city).  Of your $150 in tips, $20 goes to the bar, because you <i>cannot</i> piss off the bartender&#8212;slow drinks are the kiss of death, and bad tippers get their orders moved to the end of the queue.  So you have $130 left.  Did your busser bust her ass clearing, filling waters, and keeping you informed about the tables when you were begging the kitchen to get your damned food right? The busser gets $30. Down to $100.  In the kitchen, there&#8217;s an expediter, who exists solely to make sure the plates are set right, orders correct, and that the food goes out quickly if you can&#8217;t get to it.  A dollar an hour per expediter/food runner&#8212;say two on a weekend night&#8212;$12, rounded up to $15, because you do want your food out. There you are, with $85.  Paying tax on the whole thing.  Still, if service is crap?  I tip well under 15%</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 10:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple decades ago I did pizza delivery. The business owner paid me a couple bucks/hr but to make it worthwhile tipping was an essential component. 

Well, clearly, yes, clearly - and you&#039;ll see it if you think about it for a second - it has little or nothing to do with any implied contract (if it did, I could&#039;ve sued half of the customers) or quality of service (the quality of work done by the actual tippee, that is). To me it felt more like receiving charitable donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A couple decades ago I did pizza delivery. The business owner paid me a couple bucks/hr but to make it worthwhile tipping was an essential component.</p>

	<p>Well, clearly, yes, clearly &#8211; and you&#8217;ll see it if you think about it for a second &#8211; it has little or nothing to do with any implied contract (if it did, I could&#8217;ve sued half of the customers) or quality of service (the quality of work done by the actual tippee, that is). To me it felt more like receiving charitable donations.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-197065</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I work as an independent consultant and am paid directly by my customers. I see little difference between my situation and that of a waiter working for tips except that I generally have a specific contract regarding the conditions of the transaction rather than an implied contract.&lt;/i&gt;

Um, that makes all the difference, and it&#039;s the status that precedes the contractual relationship. Do you receive tips? Regularly? Is it expected of your work?

Look at the basic social dynamics of the relationship: the person who serves you food; the person who cuts your hair; the person who carries your bags; the person who drives you somewhere. As opposed to the person who prepares your taxes,  or the person who takes your blood pressure.

Who would have done such things 150 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I work as an independent consultant and am paid directly by my customers. I see little difference between my situation and that of a waiter working for tips except that I generally have a specific contract regarding the conditions of the transaction rather than an implied contract.</i></p>

	<p>Um, that makes all the difference, and it&#8217;s the status that precedes the contractual relationship. Do you receive tips? Regularly? Is it expected of your work?</p>

	<p>Look at the basic social dynamics of the relationship: the person who serves you food; the person who cuts your hair; the person who carries your bags; the person who drives you somewhere. As opposed to the person who prepares your taxes,  or the person who takes your blood pressure.</p>

	<p>Who would have done such things 150 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent american movie star on visit to Australia complained that the wait staff were obliously paid to much, because they did not fawn over his magnificent presenece. Australian wait staff are generally considered to be excellent. Personable and down to earth, without airs, and very professional. They are also guarenteed a living wage. 

Tipping is only done in cases of excellent service etc. When I pay with a note for table service i do not take the change, as it is generally considered to be not very classy to scoop up the sharpnel and pocket it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A recent american movie star on visit to Australia complained that the wait staff were obliously paid to much, because they did not fawn over his magnificent presenece. Australian wait staff are generally considered to be excellent. Personable and down to earth, without airs, and very professional. They are also guarenteed a living wage.</p>

	<p>Tipping is only done in cases of excellent service etc. When I pay with a note for table service i do not take the change, as it is generally considered to be not very classy to scoop up the sharpnel and pocket it!</p>
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		<title>By: Zane</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-197037</link>
		<dc:creator>Zane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeroing out the tip line on the credit card receipt and leaving cash can also increase the server&#039;s take, since some restaurants will deduct a percentage to cover the transaction fees associated with credit cards. You pay the same either way, but it goes to the server, not the credit card company or the management.

As for the tax evasion angle, I think that restaurants are expected to withhold a set amount from the paycheck based on an assumed level of tipping. They don&#039;t necessarily rely upon reporting of actual tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Zeroing out the tip line on the credit card receipt and leaving cash can also increase the server&#8217;s take, since some restaurants will deduct a percentage to cover the transaction fees associated with credit cards. You pay the same either way, but it goes to the server, not the credit card company or the management.</p>

	<p>As for the tax evasion angle, I think that restaurants are expected to withhold a set amount from the paycheck based on an assumed level of tipping. They don&#8217;t necessarily rely upon reporting of actual tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Quo Vadis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-196918</link>
		<dc:creator>Quo Vadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41

&lt;i&gt;Tipping perpetuates master-servant relationships.&lt;/i&gt;

I would think this would be a highly individual thing.  I&#039;ve never participated in a master-servant relationship in either role and the attitudes and protocols involved are completely foreign to me.  

I look on a tip as a simple transaction between a service provider and customer.  I work as an independent consultant and am paid directly by my customers.  I see little difference between my situation and that of a waiter working for tips except that I generally have a specific contract regarding the conditions of the transaction rather than an implied contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#41</p>

	<p><i>Tipping perpetuates master-servant relationships.</i></p>

	<p>I would think this would be a highly individual thing.  I&#8217;ve never participated in a master-servant relationship in either role and the attitudes and protocols involved are completely foreign to me.</p>

	<p>I look on a tip as a simple transaction between a service provider and customer.  I work as an independent consultant and am paid directly by my customers.  I see little difference between my situation and that of a waiter working for tips except that I generally have a specific contract regarding the conditions of the transaction rather than an implied contract.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-196916</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 20:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If it ever carried master/servant connotations, those have nearly all disappeared over the decades.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a matter of opinion, particularly with the late expansion of situations where the need to tip is strongly implied.

I do wonder whether travellers to the US are placed in a double-bind: those forewarned that it&#039;s a &#039;tip everyone, just to be safe&#039; culture contribute to the tip culture, ensuring that those who are not quickly face the scorn reserved to the shoddy tipper.

&lt;i&gt;instead they’re obviously rehearsed, and required by employers as surrogates (in the sense of ritual stand-in objects) for actual service.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ll note the scary innovation of bill questionnaires that ask customers if their waitron has fulfilled the requirements of the corporate greeting script.

I will say, though, that the skycap is often a tip-worthy resource: the guy who had a quiet word with the United check-in manager at La Guardia and ensured we made our flights more than deserved his $20.

[I habitually tip car mechanics, though for a different reason: my father usually had friends in the trade look at the car and charge a &#039;tradesman&#039;s price&#039;, and he&#039;d stick a tenner on top. In my part of the world, that was a mutual assumption: you discount for your mates. That stuck with me, but it&#039;s more superstition these days, to ward off the evil spirits of bad repair jobs.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If it ever carried master/servant connotations, those have nearly all disappeared over the decades.</i></p>

	<p>That&#8217;s a matter of opinion, particularly with the late expansion of situations where the need to tip is strongly implied.</p>

	<p>I do wonder whether travellers to the US are placed in a double-bind: those forewarned that it&#8217;s a &#8216;tip everyone, just to be safe&#8217; culture contribute to the tip culture, ensuring that those who are not quickly face the scorn reserved to the shoddy tipper.</p>

	<p><i>instead they&#8217;re obviously rehearsed, and required by employers as surrogates (in the sense of ritual stand-in objects) for actual service.</i></p>

	<p>I&#8217;ll note the scary innovation of bill questionnaires that ask customers if their waitron has fulfilled the requirements of the corporate greeting script.</p>

	<p>I will say, though, that the skycap is often a tip-worthy resource: the guy who had a quiet word with the United check-in manager at La Guardia and ensured we made our flights more than deserved his $20.</p>

	<p>[I habitually tip car mechanics, though for a different reason: my father usually had friends in the trade look at the car and charge a &#8216;tradesman&#8217;s price&#8217;, and he&#8217;d stick a tenner on top. In my part of the world, that was a mutual assumption: you discount for your mates. That stuck with me, but it&#8217;s more superstition these days, to ward off the evil spirits of bad repair jobs.]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-196915</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank, Richard.

_&quot;West Europeans find Russian service poor&quot;_

Rest assured, Russians also find Russian service to be poor! (It is better now in a lot of place, though.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank, Richard.</p>

	<p><em>&#8220;West Europeans find Russian service poor&#8221;</em></p>

	<p>Rest assured, Russians also find Russian service to be poor! (It is better now in a lot of place, though.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt at 16: the place where 12% service was included in the bill was England, about 10 years ago (not quite as exciting as Russia, I&#039;m afraid) - I think there may some Americanisation going on there now regarding tipping, at least in London, but still, in many parts of the country, it&#039;s blissfully tipping-free (and I imagine restaurants have to pay their staff an actual wage).

&lt;i&gt;constant, scripted insincere attention from waiters

...Their job requires them to be nice to you, and be attentive to your needs... Sincerity, however, is the one thing you cannot hire people to give you.&lt;/i&gt;

If you pay enough they&#039;ll fake it convincingly, but this completely misses the point of comment 38, which is to do with the theatrical or ritual scripting of the whole thing: in the US it&#039;s common to have &#039;greeters&#039; in shops; every foreigner who&#039;s been to the US or its overseas chains (like TGI Fridays) knows the whole &quot;Hi, I&#039;m Mandy and I&#039;ll be your server&quot; patter. These things grate on foreigners because they&#039;re false-flag communications:* they look like conversations but they aren&#039;t** -  instead they&#039;re obviously rehearsed, and required by employers as surrogates (in the sense of ritual stand-in objects) for actual service. It&#039;s what Stephen Fry calls a &quot;discrete horror of detailing&quot; (although he was talking about hotel rooms, where toilet paper folded into triangles, or chocolate mints left on the pillow, are sold to the customer in lieu of attention).

* the redcap/skycap example is particularly cruel to foreigners traveling in the US: they look so much like they&#039;re laid on by the airport to help people - they even have official uniforms - but they&#039;re actually exactly like the short-order porters on the streets of Cairo. 
** Visiting foreigners should resist the temptation to ask &quot;are you a bot?&quot; It just never works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt at 16: the place where 12% service was included in the bill was England, about 10 years ago (not quite as exciting as Russia, I&#8217;m afraid) &#8211; I think there may some Americanisation going on there now regarding tipping, at least in London, but still, in many parts of the country, it&#8217;s blissfully tipping-free (and I imagine restaurants have to pay their staff an actual wage).</p>

	<p><i>constant, scripted insincere attention from waiters</i></p>

	<p>&#8230;Their job requires them to be nice to you, and be attentive to your needs&#8230; Sincerity, however, is the one thing you cannot hire people to give you.</p>

	<p>If you pay enough they&#8217;ll fake it convincingly, but this completely misses the point of comment 38, which is to do with the theatrical or ritual scripting of the whole thing: in the US it&#8217;s common to have &#8216;greeters&#8217; in shops; every foreigner who&#8217;s been to the US or its overseas chains (like <span class="caps">TGI </span>Fridays) knows the whole &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m Mandy and I&#8217;ll be your server&#8221; patter. These things grate on foreigners because they&#8217;re false-flag communications:* they look like conversations but they aren&#8217;t** &#8211;  instead they&#8217;re obviously rehearsed, and required by employers as surrogates (in the sense of ritual stand-in objects) for actual service. It&#8217;s what Stephen Fry calls a &#8220;discrete horror of detailing&#8221; (although he was talking about hotel rooms, where toilet paper folded into triangles, or chocolate mints left on the pillow, are sold to the customer in lieu of attention).</p>

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		<li>the redcap/skycap example is particularly cruel to foreigners traveling in the US: they look so much like they&#8217;re laid on by the airport to help people &#8211; they even have official uniforms &#8211; but they&#8217;re actually exactly like the short-order porters on the streets of Cairo.</li>
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	<p>** Visiting foreigners should resist the temptation to ask &#8220;are you a bot?&#8221; It just never works.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/16/tipping-points/comment-page-1/#comment-196909</link>
		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 18:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tipping perpetuates master-servant relationships. But make that point in the US, and you’ll too often get irate former and current waitrons accusing you of wanting them to starve.&lt;/i&gt;

I really don&#039;t think so -- tipping in the U.S. is a historical accident limited to waiters, mostly, and hairdressers/barbers.  Cabbies, too, but only a small fraction of Americans use cabs on a regular basis.  If it ever carried master/servant connotations, those have nearly all disappeared over the decades.

Waiters don&#039;t feel subservient (nor customers superior) because of the tip.  In fact, the status of &#039;food workers&#039; who receive tips is higher than those who perform similar functions but who don&#039;t receive tips.  That is, it is higher status to wait tables at a &#039;nice restaurant&#039; than work in fast food or any restaurant where you order and pick up your food at the counter.  Then, too, waiting tables is quite often a student occupation, and these students may well have a similar family background to their customers (and, in a few years time, will be out of school and earning what their customers are).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Tipping perpetuates master-servant relationships. But make that point in the US, and you&#8217;ll too often get irate former and current waitrons accusing you of wanting them to starve.</i></p>

	<p>I really don&#8217;t think so&#8212;tipping in the U.S. is a historical accident limited to waiters, mostly, and hairdressers/barbers.  Cabbies, too, but only a small fraction of Americans use cabs on a regular basis.  If it ever carried master/servant connotations, those have nearly all disappeared over the decades.</p>

	<p>Waiters don&#8217;t feel subservient (nor customers superior) because of the tip.  In fact, the status of &#8216;food workers&#8217; who receive tips is higher than those who perform similar functions but who don&#8217;t receive tips.  That is, it is higher status to wait tables at a &#8216;nice restaurant&#8217; than work in fast food or any restaurant where you order and pick up your food at the counter.  Then, too, waiting tables is quite often a student occupation, and these students may well have a similar family background to their customers (and, in a few years time, will be out of school and earning what their customers are).</p>
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