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		<title>By: Maynard Handley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199361</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how liberalism just vanishes when a non-orthodox topic arises and people can&#039;t fall back on stereotypes.

What&#039;s with all the iPhone hate here? Not just people saying they won&#039;t buy it, but a strong projection that anyone who does buy it is morally inferior. Look guys, here&#039;s a hint: we&#039;re not living in Soviet Russia. The way the system works is that companies produce many items, and we, the lucky consumers, choose the ones we want best. Companies (the smart ones) are not TRYING to produce the one single device that will replace every single competitor; like the one perfect pasta sauce (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/20) that one perfect device doesn&#039;t exist, so stop evaluating the iPhone in those terms. I mean christ, even Apple doesn&#039;t pretend macs are for everyone, that&#039;s why PC in the ads is a lovable doofus --- he&#039;s uncool, but Apple&#039;s not trying to make him out as despicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s amazing how liberalism just vanishes when a non-orthodox topic arises and people can&#8217;t fall back on stereotypes.</p>

	<p>What&#8217;s with all the iPhone hate here? Not just people saying they won&#8217;t buy it, but a strong projection that anyone who does buy it is morally inferior. Look guys, here&#8217;s a hint: we&#8217;re not living in Soviet Russia. The way the system works is that companies produce many items, and we, the lucky consumers, choose the ones we want best. Companies (the smart ones) are not <span class="caps">TRYING</span> to produce the one single device that will replace every single competitor; like the one perfect pasta sauce (<a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/20" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/20</a>) that one perfect device doesn&#8217;t exist, so stop evaluating the iPhone in those terms. I mean christ, even Apple doesn&#8217;t pretend macs are for everyone, that&#8217;s why PC in the ads is a lovable doofus&#8212;- he&#8217;s uncool, but Apple&#8217;s not trying to make him out as despicable.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199187</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;With this and the PS3, it seems like being a golden year for technology firms assuming that their brand’s consumers are price insensitive…&lt;/i&gt;

As John Gruber has noted, it&#039;s not massively more expensive as the other top-end phones that Cingular sells.  Now, there&#039;s an obvious distinction, since Blackberries and Treos and suchlike are more likely to be bought by employers. But I think the market&#039;s there if it works as advertised.

European CTers should also be aware that American providers tend to offer a much blander, more homogenous range of phones, just as American car models are blander and more homogenous than their foreign variants. The iPhone sticks out in the US market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>With this and the <span class="caps">PS3</span>, it seems like being a golden year for technology firms assuming that their brand&#8217;s consumers are price insensitive&#8230;</i></p>

	<p>As John Gruber has noted, it&#8217;s not massively more expensive as the other top-end phones that Cingular sells.  Now, there&#8217;s an obvious distinction, since Blackberries and Treos and suchlike are more likely to be bought by employers. But I think the market&#8217;s there if it works as advertised.</p>

	<p>European CTers should also be aware that American providers tend to offer a much blander, more homogenous range of phones, just as American car models are blander and more homogenous than their foreign variants. The iPhone sticks out in the US market.</p>
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		<title>By: Caslon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199089</link>
		<dc:creator>Caslon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forty years ago I had a moment of cosmic consciousness during which I saw the interconnectedness of all humanity. Little did I realize that I was just getting a preview of the future. Back then I thought it was wonderful. Now I&#039;m not so sure.

Every day I see people who are driven and directed by the dictates of their gadgets. They may surf the globe and have friends in strange places and be available 24-hours a day. But in the end, they&#039;ve lost themselves to function, with form all but forgotten. They&#039;ve become avatars made of flesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Forty years ago I had a moment of cosmic consciousness during which I saw the interconnectedness of all humanity. Little did I realize that I was just getting a preview of the future. Back then I thought it was wonderful. Now I&#8217;m not so sure.</p>

	<p>Every day I see people who are driven and directed by the dictates of their gadgets. They may surf the globe and have friends in strange places and be available 24-hours a day. But in the end, they&#8217;ve lost themselves to function, with form all but forgotten. They&#8217;ve become avatars made of flesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Watson Aname</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199053</link>
		<dc:creator>Watson Aname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40:  Mobiles pretty universally suck, only slightly less so than pre-ipod mp3 players.   I don&#039;t know if apple has/can do it, but there is definitely room for someone to trump the competition with usability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>40:  Mobiles pretty universally suck, only slightly less so than pre-ipod mp3 players.   I don&#8217;t know if apple has/can do it, but there is definitely room for someone to trump the competition with usability.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199050</link>
		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or how bout one of these:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007June/bpd20070605005847.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HTC Touch&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Or how bout one of these:<br />
<a href="http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007June/bpd20070605005847.htm" rel="nofollow"><span class="caps">HTC </span>Touch</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt T.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199034</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #40
Phone design in 2007 is ahead of mp3 player design in, what, 2000.  But that doesn&#039;t mean that current phone design is actually &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt;.  So the Razr is thin?  It&#039;s also ugly and awkward.

I like the iPhone; but I&#039;m with #23: I&#039;m waiting for the iPhone nano, as it were; a phone-and-nothing-else, as small as possible, that looks good when I have to see it and is otherwise unobtrusive.  I have a 40G iPod, and the iPhone isn&#039;t going to eliminate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re: #40<br />
Phone design in 2007 is ahead of mp3 player design in, what, 2000.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean that current phone design is actually <i>good</i>.  So the Razr is thin?  It&#8217;s also ugly and awkward.</p>

	<p>I like the iPhone; but I&#8217;m with #23: I&#8217;m waiting for the iPhone nano, as it were; a phone-and-nothing-else, as small as possible, that looks good when I have to see it and is otherwise unobtrusive.  I have a 40G iPod, and the iPhone isn&#8217;t going to eliminate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Weiner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-199026</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Steve adds an “endless vibrate” feature, we’ll know he reads crooked timber.&lt;/i&gt;

And then you won&#039;t be able to buy iPhones in Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If Steve adds an &#8220;endless vibrate&#8221; feature, we&#8217;ll know he reads crooked timber.</i></p>

	<p>And then you won&#8217;t be able to buy iPhones in Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198995</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn’t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.&quot;

Well precisely. Mobile phone design is far further along than mp3 player design was at that time, both aesthetically and functionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn&#8217;t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Well precisely. Mobile phone design is far further along than mp3 player design was at that time, both aesthetically and functionally.</p>
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		<title>By: C. L. Ball</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198984</link>
		<dc:creator>C. L. Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks pretty impressive but if the AT&amp;T data fees remain pricey and if the coverage is not very good, it is not going to do as well. 

iPod did well because it worked much better than the alternatives -- as I recall, it had more storage capacity than the available Flash-based music players at the time and it also served as an external hard-drive (I still back-up data to mine when I&#039;m on trips).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It looks pretty impressive but if the AT&#038;T data fees remain pricey and if the coverage is not very good, it is not going to do as well.</p>

	<p>iPod did well because it worked much better than the alternatives&#8212;as I recall, it had more storage capacity than the available Flash-based music players at the time and it also served as an external hard-drive (I still back-up data to mine when I&#8217;m on trips).</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198979</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like a little erogenous zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s like a little erogenous zone.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198975</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn’t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you. Apple have been pushing the &quot;it just works&quot; angle pretty hard for a while now, and for all the apple products I&#039;ve tried, it&#039;s actually been true... which is pretty rare in the marketplace.
I don&#039;t want an iPod, or a video player, and I&#039;d probably be better off without internet wherever I go, but I see this as the first real, practical step toward a pocket-top (as it were) computer; one that runs real applications. That&#039;s pretty exciting (scary, even), even if it&#039;s going to take a few years to get good and capacious enough to replace my laptop. When it does, I&#039;ll buy one, but not before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn&#8217;t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.</i></p>

	<p>Thank you. Apple have been pushing the &#8220;it just works&#8221; angle pretty hard for a while now, and for all the apple products I&#8217;ve tried, it&#8217;s actually been true&#8230; which is pretty rare in the marketplace.<br />
I don&#8217;t want an iPod, or a video player, and I&#8217;d probably be better off without internet wherever I go, but I see this as the first real, practical step toward a pocket-top (as it were) computer; one that runs real applications. That&#8217;s pretty exciting (scary, even), even if it&#8217;s going to take a few years to get good and capacious enough to replace my laptop. When it does, I&#8217;ll buy one, but not before.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Bento</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198962</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Bento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freddie wrote:

&quot;But I really do believe that if they could, people literally would be fucking their iPods and Blackberries.&quot;

Well, it probably has a &quot;vibrate&quot; (silent ring) feature. If Steve adds an &quot;endless vibrate&quot; feature, we&#039;ll know he reads crooked timber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>freddie wrote:</p>

	<p>&#8220;But I really do believe that if they could, people literally would be fucking their iPods and Blackberries.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Well, it probably has a &#8220;vibrate&#8221; (silent ring) feature. If Steve adds an &#8220;endless vibrate&#8221; feature, we&#8217;ll know he reads crooked timber.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron_m</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198959</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 

Here is a link to your multi-sim dream

http://www.airtimemanager.co.uk/AdditionalServices/multiSIM.aspx

I do not know how common this is. Academics has left me with just one pretty basic communications device, so I don&#039;t have any use for this service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#15</p>

	<p>Here is a link to your multi-sim dream</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.airtimemanager.co.uk/AdditionalServices/multiSIM.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.airtimemanager.co.uk/AdditionalServices/multiSIM.aspx</a></p>

	<p>I do not know how common this is. Academics has left me with just one pretty basic communications device, so I don&#8217;t have any use for this service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198958</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn&#039;t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.  Oh, and it came with simple and effective software to synchronize with your computer.  I have no trouble imagining the iPhone sharing both of those attributes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The only thing that made the iPod unique when it came out was that it wasn&#8217;t a poorly-designed difficult to use piece of shit like all the other music players.  Oh, and it came with simple and effective software to synchronize with your computer.  I have no trouble imagining the iPhone sharing both of those attributes.</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Rud</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/06/04/iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-198953</link>
		<dc:creator>A. G. Rud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slap what a friend calls a &quot;condom&quot; on the glass, the protectors you squeegee on with great difficulty to PDAs, and that I now have on my Blackjack, to prevent scratching. But then, does anyone really worry about scratching, when most folks trade for new phones frequently? I have had to get out of the &quot;make it last&quot; mindset, a relic of years past, with my electronics. Use it, scratch it, replace it seems the order of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Slap what a friend calls a &#8220;condom&#8221; on the glass, the protectors you squeegee on with great difficulty to PDAs, and that I now have on my Blackjack, to prevent scratching. But then, does anyone really worry about scratching, when most folks trade for new phones frequently? I have had to get out of the &#8220;make it last&#8221; mindset, a relic of years past, with my electronics. Use it, scratch it, replace it seems the order of the day.</p>
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