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		<title>By: reqfd.net / neither gone nor forgotten</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-206568</link>
		<dc:creator>reqfd.net / neither gone nor forgotten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most recent acknowledgement of a typing wife in a first book?&#8211;see post for context, and comment #31 for 8-&#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] most recent acknowledgement of a typing wife in a first book?&#8211;see post for context, and comment #31 for 8-| [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-206175</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Dodsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lkutner@33:

Quite early, I think. There&#039;s a Sherlock Holmes story (&quot;A Case of Identity&quot;) with a woman client who makes pocket-money working from home as a typist. According to Wikipedia, that was published in 1891 and set in 1888.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>lkutner@33:</p>

	<p>Quite early, I think. There&#8217;s a Sherlock Holmes story (&#8220;A Case of Identity&#8221;) with a woman client who makes pocket-money working from home as a typist. According to Wikipedia, that was published in 1891 and set in 1888.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua W. Burton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-206156</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua W. Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TeX and troff were already ascendant (for humanities papers and nice CVs, not just tech writing) in some circles when I arrived at college in 1980, but you could still get whiteout ribbon in Harvard Square at 2 am four years later.  I never saw a portable typewriter outside its case after leaving for grad school in 1984.  Departmental secretaries with big Selectrics held out into the early 1990s, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>TeX and troff were already ascendant (for humanities papers and nice CVs, not just tech writing) in some circles when I arrived at college in 1980, but you could still get whiteout ribbon in Harvard Square at 2 am four years later.  I never saw a portable typewriter outside its case after leaving for grad school in 1984.  Departmental secretaries with big Selectrics held out into the early 1990s, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: lkutner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-206052</link>
		<dc:creator>lkutner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question is when did it start? Originally, a typewriter was the person who operated a &quot;typing machine&quot; or a &quot;typographer.&quot; The device was considered too complex for women, so the original typewriters were exclusively men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Another question is when did it start? Originally, a typewriter was the person who operated a &#8220;typing machine&#8221; or a &#8220;typographer.&#8221; The device was considered too complex for women, so the original typewriters were exclusively men.</p>
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		<title>By: grotius</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-206008</link>
		<dc:creator>grotius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The typing wife is a nice relic, and searching for it sounds fun--but here&#039;s another tact: identify the scholars thanked in the acknowledgments, and then do a database search of the book&#039;s reviews. It&#039;s amazing (but not surprising) how many glowing reviews come from academics mentioned in that oh-so-pompous section of the academic monograph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The typing wife is a nice relic, and searching for it sounds fun&#8212;but here&#8217;s another tact: identify the scholars thanked in the acknowledgments, and then do a database search of the book&#8217;s reviews. It&#8217;s amazing (but not surprising) how many glowing reviews come from academics mentioned in that oh-so-pompous section of the academic monograph.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Rippon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-205969</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Rippon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confident that no examples of a typing wife more recent than &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=GFtcbLh1snMC&amp;pg=PP12&amp;sig=tsMMEwcRNsrAefM3GOv5gD7cGtk#PPP12,M1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2007&lt;/a&gt; will be found this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am confident that no examples of a typing wife more recent than <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=GFtcbLh1snMC&#038;pg=PP12&#038;sig=tsMMEwcRNsrAefM3GOv5gD7cGtk#PPP12,M1" rel="nofollow">2007</a> will be found this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hurka</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-205967</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acknowledging the typing wife at the start of a book is one thing; what about putting footnote acknowledgements to particular fellow-scholars (e.g. &quot;I am indebted in this paragraph to conversations with XY,&quot; or &quot;I owe this  point to Z&quot;) in the body of a book or article? When did that start? I&#039;m pretty sure it wasn&#039;t much done before, what, the 1980s? But it&#039;s everywhere, at least in my discipline, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Acknowledging the typing wife at the start of a book is one thing; what about putting footnote acknowledgements to particular fellow-scholars (e.g. &#8220;I am indebted in this paragraph to conversations with XY,&#8221; or &#8220;I owe this  point to Z&#8221;) in the body of a book or article? When did that start? I&#8217;m pretty sure it wasn&#8217;t much done before, what, the 1980s? But it&#8217;s everywhere, at least in my discipline, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Yotro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yotro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what about the wife who indexed? After all, a good index demanded skill, intelligence and mastery of the material. A meeting of minds. Here was a wife well placed to defend --- or rubbish --- her husband&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And what about the wife who indexed? After all, a good index demanded skill, intelligence and mastery of the material. A meeting of minds. Here was a wife well placed to defend&#8212;- or rubbish&#8212;- her husband&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/07/29/the-last-typing-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-205885</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Bill Craig&#039;s very recent (maybe still forthcoming?) book on cylindric algebras thanks someone who shares his last name but isn&#039;t a relative for her &quot;sensitive typing&quot;.  But this is hardly a first book, as Craig&#039;s Interpolation Theorem was proven in the &#039;50s (or maybe even &#039;40s?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I believe Bill Craig&#8217;s very recent (maybe still forthcoming?) book on cylindric algebras thanks someone who shares his last name but isn&#8217;t a relative for her &#8220;sensitive typing&#8221;.  But this is hardly a first book, as Craig&#8217;s Interpolation Theorem was proven in the &#8216;50s (or maybe even &#8216;40s?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sure. There’s even, I believe, a mini-literature about it.&lt;/em&gt;

Research into the methodology of acknowledgments? The mind boggles and wants to know what method they themselves used to give acknowledgments; but yet fears the infinite recursion which might ensue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>Sure. There&#8217;s even, I believe, a mini-literature about it.</em></p>

	<p>Research into the methodology of acknowledgments? The mind boggles and wants to know what method they themselves used to give acknowledgments; but yet fears the infinite recursion which might ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the first one I came across after a quick search. There&#039;s other stuff, more light-hearted, on the sheer sameness of acknowledgments, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That was the first one I came across after a quick search. There&#8217;s other stuff, more light-hearted, on the sheer sameness of acknowledgments, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: thag</title>
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		<dc:creator>thag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 9:

What, they recommend that non-native speakers receive assistance in writing acknowledgements?

Cause that&#039;s really what&#039;s holding back their brilliant careers?

I&#039;m pretty sure that no academic career has ever been impeded by an insufficiently sophisticated acknowledgement.

(I mean--you can probably shoot yourself in the foot with something catty.  But a simple thanks will always suffice.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>re 9:</p>

	<p>What, they recommend that non-native speakers receive assistance in writing acknowledgements?</p>

	<p>Cause that&#8217;s really what&#8217;s holding back their brilliant careers?</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that no academic career has ever been impeded by an insufficiently sophisticated acknowledgement.</p>

	<p>(I mean&#8212;you can probably shoot yourself in the foot with something catty.  But a simple thanks will always suffice.)</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe male authors don&#039;t want to admit their wives type for them, for fear of seeming as pretentious and insensitive as Wendell Berry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maybe male authors don&#8217;t want to admit their wives type for them, for fear of seeming as pretentious and insensitive as Wendell Berry.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The best acknowledgements remain those for the Scheme shell reference manual.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, those are good. There&#039;s also the page in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.palgrave-usa.com/catalog/product.aspx?isbn=1403965242&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this,&lt;/a&gt; not online...but here&#039;s a sample: thanks to &quot;two bitter narcissists in a certain headless department of English who have no loyalty other than to their own self-causes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The best acknowledgements remain those for the Scheme shell reference manual.</i></p>

	<p>Oh, those are good. There&#8217;s also the page in <a href="http://www.palgrave-usa.com/catalog/product.aspx?isbn=1403965242" rel="nofollow">this,</a> not online&#8230;but here&#8217;s a sample: thanks to &#8220;two bitter narcissists in a certain headless department of English who have no loyalty other than to their own self-causes.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joejoejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, when was the big Wendell Berry wife-typing uproar?&lt;/i&gt;

Berry&#039;s 1990 &#039;What are People For?&#039; has an entire chapter about the typing wife. 

An excerpt: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Without exception, the feminist letters accuse me of exploiting my wife, and they do not scruple to allow the most insulting implications of their indictment to fall upon my wife. They fail entirely to see that my essay does not give any support to their accusation—or if they see it, they do not care. My essay, in fact, does not characterize my wife beyond saying that she types my manuscripts and tells me what she thinks about them. It does not say what her motives are, how much work she does, or whether or how she is paid. Aside from saying that she is my wife and that I value the help she gives me with my work, it says nothing about our marriage. It says nothing about our economy.

There is no way, then, to escape the conclusion that my wife and I are subjected in these letters to a condemnation by category. My offense is that I am a man who receives some help from his wife; my wife’s offense is that she is a woman who does some work for her husband—which work, according to her critics and mine, makes her a drudge, exploited by a conventional subservience. And my detractors have, as I say, no evidence to support any of this. Their accusation rests on a syllogism of the flimsiest sort: my wife helps me in my work, some wives who have helped their husbands in their work have been exploited, therefore my wife is exploited.

This, of course, outrages justice to about the same extent that it insults intelligence. Any respectable system of justice exists in part as a protection against such accusations. In a just society nobody is expected to plead guilty to a general indictment, because in a just society nobody can be convicted on a general indictment. What is required for a just conviction is a particular accusation that can be proved. My accusers have made no such accusation against me. [...]

I should say too that I understand how fortunate I have been in being able to do an appreciable part of my work at home. I know that in many marriages both husband and wife are now finding it necessary to work away from home. This issue, of course, is troubled by the question of what is meant by “necessary,” but it is true that a family living that not so long ago was ordinarily supplied by one job now routinely requires two or more. My interest is not to quarrel with individuals, men or women, who work away from home, but rather to ask why we should consider this general working away from home to be a desirable state of things, either for people or for marriage, for our society or for our country.

If I had written in my essay that my wife worked as a typist and editor for a publisher, doing the same work that she does for me, no feminists, I daresay, would have written to Harper’s to attack me for exploiting her—even though, for all they knew, I might have forced her to do such work in order to keep me in gambling money. It would have been assumed as a matter of course that if she had a job away from home she was a “liberated woman,” possessed of a dignity that no home could confer upon her.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Read the whole thing (see link in signature). 

I highly recommend Berry&#039;s book &quot;What Are People For?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Well, when was the big Wendell Berry wife-typing uproar?</i></p>

	<p>Berry&#8217;s 1990 &#8216;What are People For?&#8217; has an entire chapter about the typing wife.</p>

	<p>An excerpt: <i>&#8220;Without exception, the feminist letters accuse me of exploiting my wife, and they do not scruple to allow the most insulting implications of their indictment to fall upon my wife. They fail entirely to see that my essay does not give any support to their accusation&#8212;or if they see it, they do not care. My essay, in fact, does not characterize my wife beyond saying that she types my manuscripts and tells me what she thinks about them. It does not say what her motives are, how much work she does, or whether or how she is paid. Aside from saying that she is my wife and that I value the help she gives me with my work, it says nothing about our marriage. It says nothing about our economy.</i></p>

	<p>There is no way, then, to escape the conclusion that my wife and I are subjected in these letters to a condemnation by category. My offense is that I am a man who receives some help from his wife; my wife&#8217;s offense is that she is a woman who does some work for her husband&#8212;which work, according to her critics and mine, makes her a drudge, exploited by a conventional subservience. And my detractors have, as I say, no evidence to support any of this. Their accusation rests on a syllogism of the flimsiest sort: my wife helps me in my work, some wives who have helped their husbands in their work have been exploited, therefore my wife is exploited.</p>

	<p>This, of course, outrages justice to about the same extent that it insults intelligence. Any respectable system of justice exists in part as a protection against such accusations. In a just society nobody is expected to plead guilty to a general indictment, because in a just society nobody can be convicted on a general indictment. What is required for a just conviction is a particular accusation that can be proved. My accusers have made no such accusation against me. [...]</p>

	<p>I should say too that I understand how fortunate I have been in being able to do an appreciable part of my work at home. I know that in many marriages both husband and wife are now finding it necessary to work away from home. This issue, of course, is troubled by the question of what is meant by &#8220;necessary,&#8221; but it is true that a family living that not so long ago was ordinarily supplied by one job now routinely requires two or more. My interest is not to quarrel with individuals, men or women, who work away from home, but rather to ask why we should consider this general working away from home to be a desirable state of things, either for people or for marriage, for our society or for our country.</p>

	<p>If I had written in my essay that my wife worked as a typist and editor for a publisher, doing the same work that she does for me, no feminists, I daresay, would have written to Harper&#8217;s to attack me for exploiting her&#8212;even though, for all they knew, I might have forced her to do such work in order to keep me in gambling money. It would have been assumed as a matter of course that if she had a job away from home she was a &#8220;liberated woman,&#8221; possessed of a dignity that no home could confer upon her.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Read the whole thing (see link in signature).</p>

	<p>I highly recommend Berry&#8217;s book &#8220;What Are People For?&#8221;.</p>
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