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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul, most contributed-to-by-military-personnel candidate?</title>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/06/ron-paul-most-contributed-to-by-military-personnel-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-206585</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s mandatory for them to *ask* for the employment information, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s actually mandatory for the contributor to supply it (nor for that matter to supply a serious answer). And it&#039;s true that the data is a mess. Eyeballing Ron Paul&#039;s filings I see a fair number of duplicate entries. But I have no reason to believe the data from other campaigns is any cleaner; it&#039;s not like they have any real incentive to make sure everything is exactly correct, they just need to file something that won&#039;t result in election fraud charges...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s mandatory for them to <strong>ask</strong> for the employment information, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s actually mandatory for the contributor to supply it (nor for that matter to supply a serious answer). And it&#8217;s true that the data is a mess. Eyeballing Ron Paul&#8217;s filings I see a fair number of duplicate entries. But I have no reason to believe the data from other campaigns is any cleaner; it&#8217;s not like they have any real incentive to make sure everything is exactly correct, they just need to file something that won&#8217;t result in election fraud charges&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a candidate be &quot;unusually good at collecting employment data from contributors&quot;?  I thought that was a mandatory part of the contribution form, back when I filled them in on paper and now online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How can a candidate be &#8220;unusually good at collecting employment data from contributors&#8221;?  I thought that was a mandatory part of the contribution form, back when I filled them in on paper and now online.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would.

Its not logical, sure.  The military is a communal organization dedicated to intervening abroad.

But I know a lot of soldiers who envision themselves as the hard-bitten survivalist type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would.</p>

	<p>Its not logical, sure.  The military is a communal organization dedicated to intervening abroad.</p>

	<p>But I know a lot of soldiers who envision themselves as the hard-bitten survivalist type.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldn&#039;t expect the military to be a bastion of isolationist libertarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You wouldn&#8217;t expect the military to be a bastion of isolationist libertarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/06/ron-paul-most-contributed-to-by-military-personnel-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-206555</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul has a very solid internet support.  Look at those &quot;who won the debate&quot; polls.  Ron Paul demolishes every other republican candidate in terms of the sort of support that votes on internet polls.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963531/

That doesn&#039;t necessarily translate into votes.  But the military personnel I know get their information online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul has a very solid internet support.  Look at those &#8220;who won the debate&#8221; polls.  Ron Paul demolishes every other republican candidate in terms of the sort of support that votes on internet polls.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963531/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963531/</a></p>

	<p>That doesn&#8217;t necessarily translate into votes.  But the military personnel I know get their information online.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Giuliani&quot; starts with &quot;Giu&quot; (JEE-OO -&gt; JOO), as in &quot;Giuseppe&quot;, not &quot;Gui&quot; (GOO-EE -&gt; GWEE), as in &quot;Guido&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Giuliani&#8221; starts with &#8220;Giu&#8221; (JEE-OO -> <span class="caps">JOO</span>), as in &#8220;Giuseppe&#8221;, not &#8220;Gui&#8221; (GOO-EE -> <span class="caps">GWEE</span>), as in &#8220;Guido&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiggliest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiggliest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The data is thrown off because campaigns are only required to put in their FEC reports the names and occupation/employer of people who have given a total of $200 or more.  So if HRC has a million vets giving her $50 each, we would never know.  Also donors often just put in the blanks on the form &quot;Retired&quot;.  I imagine there&#039;s a political difference between the &quot;Retired&quot; vets and the &quot;Retired Army&quot; vets that might map to D and R.  If there&#039;s a contribution gender gap the way there is for voting that would further mess with the statistics, since the armed forces and veterans are over 90% male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The data is thrown off because campaigns are only required to put in their <span class="caps">FEC</span> reports the names and occupation/employer of people who have given a total of $200 or more.  So if <span class="caps">HRC</span> has a million vets giving her $50 each, we would never know.  Also donors often just put in the blanks on the form &#8220;Retired&#8221;.  I imagine there&#8217;s a political difference between the &#8220;Retired&#8221; vets and the &#8220;Retired Army&#8221; vets that might map to D and R.  If there&#8217;s a contribution gender gap the way there is for voting that would further mess with the statistics, since the armed forces and veterans are over 90% male.</p>
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