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	<title>Comments on: Ian Gillan Superstar</title>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-207047</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On whose story it is: I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s structured as the story of any one character. It&#039;s introduced by Judas; but then we get to spend moments alone with Mary Magdalene, Jesus (obviously), and even Pilate.

As as kid (when I adored it - and whoever above said Godspell... oh, please!) - I used to argue for some reason that it wasn&#039;t anti-Christian. But even then I took the point of it to be to humanise the whole thing, to say &#039;here are the human beings behind the myth&#039; (and aren&#039;t they very like people today), which, by demythologising it, seems to me implicitly to be debunking the religion.

The title obviously implies it&#039;s about something to do with fame. Not sure I ever really got what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On whose story it is: I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s structured as the story of any one character. It&#8217;s introduced by Judas; but then we get to spend moments alone with Mary Magdalene, Jesus (obviously), and even Pilate.</p>

	<p>As as kid (when I adored it &#8211; and whoever above said Godspell&#8230; oh, please!) &#8211; I used to argue for some reason that it wasn&#8217;t anti-Christian. But even then I took the point of it to be to humanise the whole thing, to say &#8216;here are the human beings behind the myth&#8217; (and aren&#8217;t they very like people today), which, by demythologising it, seems to me implicitly to be debunking the religion.</p>

	<p>The title obviously implies it&#8217;s about something to do with fame. Not sure I ever really got what.</p>
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		<title>By: HyperIon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206987</link>
		<dc:creator>HyperIon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone raised as a Southern Baptist in the South, I was very impressed when I first heard the London soundtrack (with Murray Head). Without knowing about the musical, I was familiar with the single JCSS; what a fantastic lyric: &quot;Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication.&quot; But when I listened to &quot;Heaven on their minds&quot;, I was floored by the political analysis of the Jesus story. I had already &quot;lost my faith&quot; but found the ideas about who would benefit from JC&#039;s death very interesting. Rice must have been familiar even then with the biblical scholarship that is now old-hat. He made me realize that you don&#039;t have to believe in order to find the story compelling. As others have remarked, ALW went on to write much bad music (Cats...ugh!!!!) but IMO he manages to incorporate every classic rock idiom in the JCSS score. I thought the movie was PATHETIC, that is, truly awful; that&#039;s how *I* explain the cost difference. Oh, and my mom advised me (after over-hearing the record on my hifi) that I had better not let my father find out about this blasphemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As someone raised as a Southern Baptist in the South, I was very impressed when I first heard the London soundtrack (with Murray Head). Without knowing about the musical, I was familiar with the single <span class="caps">JCSS</span>; what a fantastic lyric: &#8220;Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication.&#8221; But when I listened to &#8220;Heaven on their minds&#8221;, I was floored by the political analysis of the Jesus story. I had already &#8220;lost my faith&#8221; but found the ideas about who would benefit from JC&#8217;s death very interesting. Rice must have been familiar even then with the biblical scholarship that is now old-hat. He made me realize that you don&#8217;t have to believe in order to find the story compelling. As others have remarked, <span class="caps">ALW</span> went on to write much bad music (Cats&#8230;ugh<img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!) but <span class="caps">IMO</span> he manages to incorporate every classic rock idiom in the <span class="caps">JCSS</span> score. I thought the movie was <span class="caps">PATHETIC</span>, that is, truly awful; that&#8217;s how <strong>I</strong> explain the cost difference. Oh, and my mom advised me (after over-hearing the record on my hifi) that I had better not let my father find out about this blasphemy.</p>
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		<title>By: kerril</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206986</link>
		<dc:creator>kerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per the comment #10:
I had always interpreted the original production the same way. 
Judas&#039; lines :&quot;Christ I know you can&#039;t hear me but I only did what you wanted me to...&quot; indicated that it was preordained that Judas would betray Jesus and that Judas was aware of it. Making him far more complicated than the straight up bad guy.
 Oh my lord I love that music. Ian Gillian and Murray Head are gods to me. Now how blasphemous is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As per the comment #10:<br />
I had always interpreted the original production the same way.<br />
Judas&#8217; lines :&#8221;Christ I know you can&#8217;t hear me but I only did what you wanted me to&#8230;&#8221; indicated that it was preordained that Judas would betray Jesus and that Judas was aware of it. Making him far more complicated than the straight up bad guy.<br />
Oh my lord I love that music. Ian Gillian and Murray Head are gods to me. Now how blasphemous is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ares Burger</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206882</link>
		<dc:creator>Ares Burger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For us it was:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Jesus Christ, superstar!  Went for a ride on his yamaha.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For us it was:<br />
<i>&#8220;Jesus Christ, superstar!  Went for a ride on his yamaha.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: quicksand</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206850</link>
		<dc:creator>quicksand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When I was in first grade we used to sing:
“Jesus Christ, superstar! Who in the hell do you think you are?”&lt;/i&gt;
Weird.  I remember that from my childhood too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>When I was in first grade we used to sing:<br />
&#8220;Jesus Christ, superstar! Who in the hell do you think you are?&#8221;</i><br />
Weird.  I remember that from my childhood too.</p>
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		<title>By: Populuxe</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206823</link>
		<dc:creator>Populuxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I grew up with the film, my mother loved it, and I always thought it as very christian in the way my hippy mother was.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s very similar to my experience of the record growing up. In fact, my first introduction to JCS came from the teacher who played it for us in Sunday School. I was probably in Middle School before I was even aware that some people regarded the JCS as anti-religious. 

When I was in first grade we used to sing:
&quot;Jesus Christ, superstar! Who in the hell do you think you are?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I grew up with the film, my mother loved it, and I always thought it as very christian in the way my hippy mother was.</i></p>

	<p>That&#8217;s very similar to my experience of the record growing up. In fact, my first introduction to <span class="caps">JCS</span> came from the teacher who played it for us in Sunday School. I was probably in Middle School before I was even aware that some people regarded the <span class="caps">JCS</span> as anti-religious.</p>

	<p>When I was in first grade we used to sing:<br />
&#8220;Jesus Christ, superstar! Who in the hell do you think you are?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: spinozista</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206818</link>
		<dc:creator>spinozista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSC (the original album) is essentially an oratorio, basically modeled after Bach&#039;s St. Matthew&#039;s and St. John&#039;s Passions, both of which end with the crucifixion and burial.  (JSC may also owe a little to some of Handel&#039;s Old Testament oratorios?)  Bach&#039;s texts may have ended as they did because they functioned as church music to be performed before or on Good Friday.  But someone more expert in Bach can confirm or correct that point for me.  Nobody ever thought it made Bach un-Christian.

I presume that Webber knew more about Bach than I did, and that the similarities in musical form (superficial though they may be) between JCS and the St. Matthew&#039;s Passion are not just coincidence.

Needless to say, neither I nor anyone else where I grew up knew anything about Bach or Handel when the album first came out, so it was widely regarded in our parts as completely sacrilegious because (1) rock music, (2) omitting = ignoring = denying the resurrection, and (3) making Judas the co-star, if not indeed the real star (and I didn&#039;t know anything about Milton at the time, either).

In short, unconventional, therefore sinful.  IIRC, when the touring company came to town in 1971, there was even a short-term bomb scare, but the show went on after a little while, anyway.

I was and am still a fan of the original album, but never the movie or the stage shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JSC </span>(the original album) is essentially an oratorio, basically modeled after Bach&#8217;s St. Matthew&#8217;s and St. John&#8217;s Passions, both of which end with the crucifixion and burial.  (JSC may also owe a little to some of Handel&#8217;s Old Testament oratorios?)  Bach&#8217;s texts may have ended as they did because they functioned as church music to be performed before or on Good Friday.  But someone more expert in Bach can confirm or correct that point for me.  Nobody ever thought it made Bach un-Christian.</p>

	<p>I presume that Webber knew more about Bach than I did, and that the similarities in musical form (superficial though they may be) between <span class="caps">JCS</span> and the St. Matthew&#8217;s Passion are not just coincidence.</p>

	<p>Needless to say, neither I nor anyone else where I grew up knew anything about Bach or Handel when the album first came out, so it was widely regarded in our parts as completely sacrilegious because (1) rock music, (2) omitting = ignoring = denying the resurrection, and (3) making Judas the co-star, if not indeed the real star (and I didn&#8217;t know anything about Milton at the time, either).</p>

	<p>In short, unconventional, therefore sinful.  <span class="caps">IIRC</span>, when the touring company came to town in 1971, there was even a short-term bomb scare, but the show went on after a little while, anyway.</p>

	<p>I was and am still a fan of the original album, but never the movie or the stage shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kremer, as my reference should have indicated, I&#039;m familiar with the ending(s) of the Gospel of Mark.  

Simply having some guy show up and say &quot;hey, Jesus isn&#039;t dead, he&#039;s Risen!&quot; ... well, it&#039;s interesting to speculate on the fate of Christianity had there been no &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; gospels.  No wonder later scribes felt the imperative to play Choose Your Own Ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Kremer, as my reference should have indicated, I&#8217;m familiar with the ending(s) of the Gospel of Mark.</p>

	<p>Simply having some guy show up and say &#8220;hey, Jesus isn&#8217;t dead, he&#8217;s Risen!&#8221; &#8230; well, it&#8217;s interesting to speculate on the fate of Christianity had there been no <i>other</i> gospels.  No wonder later scribes felt the imperative to play Choose Your Own Ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Wax Banks</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/07/ian-gillan-superstar/comment-page-1/#comment-206810</link>
		<dc:creator>Wax Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ending &lt;em&gt;JCS&lt;/em&gt; with the Crucifixion rather than the Resurrection underlines the story&#039;s focus: remember that no miracles take place in the film/play/album (it&#039;s reasonable for Jesus to know that he&#039;ll be denied and betrayed, etc.). Including the Resurrection shifts the narrative from story-about-religion to &lt;em&gt;religious story&lt;/em&gt;; without it, &lt;em&gt;JCS&lt;/em&gt; becomes a moving story about Judas&#039;s struggle with the nature of the man he&#039;s chosen to follow, and with the institution that&#039;s building up around him (cf. feckless dopey Apostles singing about fame at the Last Supper).

Calling it &#039;un-Christian&#039; is like calling &lt;em&gt;The Satanic Verses&lt;/em&gt; un-Muslim: a bit pointless. Both works meditate beautifully &lt;em&gt;within&lt;/em&gt; their chosen religious mythologies, and readily admit that they&#039;re just that - mythical. But both works recognise the possibility of transformation that such mythologies offer. &lt;em&gt;JCS&lt;/em&gt; isn&#039;t just Judas&#039;s story - of course not, Jesus spends as much time center stage as he does and his monologue in Gethsemane represents the play&#039;s major moral crisis - and the teachings of Jesus are cherrypicked neatly to ground him in his (abstracted) cultural moment and his institution. So I would say the play does Christians a service by humanizing the mythical figures at the center of their beliefs about the world, and serves non-Christians by cutting away a thicket of goofy theology and asking questions about humans&#039; capacity for belief, and through it, good works.

It&#039;s possible to venerate Jesus without believing he&#039;s the son of God, and there&#039;s nothing in &lt;em&gt;JCS&lt;/em&gt; to preclude the possibility that he&#039;s a person of strong and worthy morals that happen to spring from dementia. I don&#039;t see that message as undercutting the faith, only complicating the myths. But thoughtful Christians have been dealing with such complications for a long time anyhow.

I quite like Murray Head (his brother&#039;s no slouch either), but he&#039;s destroyed by the film Judas; his voice better suits the creepy Bobby Fischer fella in &lt;em&gt;Chess&lt;/em&gt;, another Rice concept album of note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ending <em><span class="caps">JCS</span></em> with the Crucifixion rather than the Resurrection underlines the story&#8217;s focus: remember that no miracles take place in the film/play/album (it&#8217;s reasonable for Jesus to know that he&#8217;ll be denied and betrayed, etc.). Including the Resurrection shifts the narrative from story-about-religion to <em>religious story</em>; without it, <em><span class="caps">JCS</span></em> becomes a moving story about Judas&#8217;s struggle with the nature of the man he&#8217;s chosen to follow, and with the institution that&#8217;s building up around him (cf. feckless dopey Apostles singing about fame at the Last Supper).</p>

	<p>Calling it &#8216;un-Christian&#8217; is like calling <em>The Satanic Verses</em> un-Muslim: a bit pointless. Both works meditate beautifully <em>within</em> their chosen religious mythologies, and readily admit that they&#8217;re just that &#8211; mythical. But both works recognise the possibility of transformation that such mythologies offer. <em><span class="caps">JCS</span></em> isn&#8217;t just Judas&#8217;s story &#8211; of course not, Jesus spends as much time center stage as he does and his monologue in Gethsemane represents the play&#8217;s major moral crisis &#8211; and the teachings of Jesus are cherrypicked neatly to ground him in his (abstracted) cultural moment and his institution. So I would say the play does Christians a service by humanizing the mythical figures at the center of their beliefs about the world, and serves non-Christians by cutting away a thicket of goofy theology and asking questions about humans&#8217; capacity for belief, and through it, good works.</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s possible to venerate Jesus without believing he&#8217;s the son of God, and there&#8217;s nothing in <em><span class="caps">JCS</span></em> to preclude the possibility that he&#8217;s a person of strong and worthy morals that happen to spring from dementia. I don&#8217;t see that message as undercutting the faith, only complicating the myths. But thoughtful Christians have been dealing with such complications for a long time anyhow.</p>

	<p>I quite like Murray Head (his brother&#8217;s no slouch either), but he&#8217;s destroyed by the film Judas; his voice better suits the creepy Bobby Fischer fella in <em>Chess</em>, another Rice concept album of note.</p>
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		<title>By: mds</title>
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		<dc:creator>mds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Jesus and some of the other cast members were out for dinner at a restaurant and refused (for some reason I don’t recall) to pay the bill.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;No, no, we only ordered &lt;i&gt;five&lt;/i&gt; loaves and &lt;i&gt;two&lt;/i&gt; fishes...&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Shouldn’t there be a SPOILER warning?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/12/05&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ahem&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Jesus and some of the other cast members were out for dinner at a restaurant and refused (for some reason I don&#8217;t recall) to pay the bill.</i></p>

	<p>&#8220;No, no, we only ordered <i>five</i> loaves and <i>two</i> fishes&#8230;&#8221;</p>

	<p><i>Shouldn&#8217;t there be a <span class="caps">SPOILER</span> warning?</i></p>

	<p><a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/12/05" rel="nofollow">Ahem</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the point of the post:  I see the original recording (which I grew up with in my childhood Catholic household) as neither Christian nor anti-Christian, but questioning and thought-provoking, and a good thing for Christians to have to listen to and think about (and I&#039;ve introduced it to my children in my  present Catholic household).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the point of the post:  I see the original recording (which I grew up with in my childhood Catholic household) as neither Christian nor anti-Christian, but questioning and thought-provoking, and a good thing for Christians to have to listen to and think about (and I&#8217;ve introduced it to my children in my  present Catholic household).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anderson:
The Gospel of Mark (not counting the probably spurious last lines, Mark 16:9-20) ends with the empty tomb, not with the crucifixion.  No resurrection appearance, but the lines &quot;You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him. But go, tell his disciples and Peter, &#039;He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.&#039;&quot; (Mark 16:6-7) spoken by a young man in white at the tomb are part of the authentic ending of the Gospel.  The women to whom these lines are spoken remain afraid however, and flee, trembling.  (Mark 16:8 -- the end of the Gospel in the oldest manuscripts.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>anderson:<br />
The Gospel of Mark (not counting the probably spurious last lines, Mark 16:9-20) ends with the empty tomb, not with the crucifixion.  No resurrection appearance, but the lines &#8220;You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him. But go, tell his disciples and Peter, &#8216;He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.&#8217;&#8221; (Mark 16:6-7) spoken by a young man in white at the tomb are part of the authentic ending of the Gospel.  The women to whom these lines are spoken remain afraid however, and flee, trembling.  (Mark 16:8&#8212;the end of the Gospel in the oldest manuscripts.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hitchens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCS riffed off an ancient theme, found in the 2nd century (and recently much-ballyhooed) Gospel of Judas, and elevated to a high pitch of literary merit in Nikos Kazantzakis&#039; novel &quot;The Last Temptation of Christ,&quot; which Vivian and Matt mentioned.  

I totally agree with derrida derider:  Lloyd-Webber&#039;s extravaganzas seem to manage one memorable song per.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JCS</span> riffed off an ancient theme, found in the 2nd century (and recently much-ballyhooed) Gospel of Judas, and elevated to a high pitch of literary merit in Nikos Kazantzakis&#8217; novel &#8220;The Last Temptation of Christ,&#8221; which Vivian and Matt mentioned.</p>

	<p>I totally agree with derrida derider:  Lloyd-Webber&#8217;s extravaganzas seem to manage one memorable song per.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Since the story in JCS ends with the death rather than the Resurrection doesn’t it rather miss the point of the whole Christian religion?&lt;/i&gt;

You mean, like the Gospel of Mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Since the story in <span class="caps">JCS</span> ends with the death rather than the Resurrection doesn&#8217;t it rather miss the point of the whole Christian religion?</i></p>

	<p>You mean, like the Gospel of Mark?</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always preferred &#039;Life Of Brian&#039;. The songs are better too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I always preferred &#8216;Life Of Brian&#8217;. The songs are better too.</p>
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