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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Birds in The News, Postponed</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207828</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Birds in The News, Postponed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bug girl has some more thoughts on the study, as does John Quiggin. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Study finds that DDT not the most effective for IRS</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207807</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Study finds that DDT not the most effective for IRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bug girl has some more thoughts on the study, as does John Quiggin. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Bug girl has some more thoughts on the study, as does John Quiggin. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pinko Punko</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207186</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinko Punko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What j f beck said is certainly not true.  Making Milloy look virtuous is like walking out of a black hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What j f beck said is certainly not true.  Making Milloy look virtuous is like walking out of a black hole.</p>
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		<title>By: bi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207165</link>
		<dc:creator>bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry:

Hah. Well, my hands are already quite full with all those debunkings of the &quot;there&#039;s no anthropogenic global warming and even if there is it&#039;s all China&#039;s fault, or maybe Al Gore&#039;s fault&quot; thingies...

But of course, knowledge is good, unless it&#039;s negative knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barry:</p>

	<p>Hah. Well, my hands are already quite full with all those debunkings of the &#8220;there&#8217;s no anthropogenic global warming and even if there is it&#8217;s all China&#8217;s fault, or maybe Al Gore&#8217;s fault&#8221; thingies&#8230;</p>

	<p>But of course, knowledge is good, unless it&#8217;s negative knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: bi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207163</link>
		<dc:creator>bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wrong, but I&#039;m still right! I&#039;m wrong, but I&#039;m still right! I&#039;m wrong, but I&#039;m still right! ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m wrong, but I&#8217;m still right! I&#8217;m wrong, but I&#8217;m still right! I&#8217;m wrong, but I&#8217;m still right! &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J F Beck</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207147</link>
		<dc:creator>J F Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Lambert (Deltoid) is not an accurate source of information on DDT: his DDT posts are riddled with errors and misrepresentations. Steve Milloy is a paragon of honesty by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tim Lambert (Deltoid) is not an accurate source of information on <span class="caps">DDT</span>: his <span class="caps">DDT</span> posts are riddled with errors and misrepresentations. Steve Milloy is a paragon of honesty by comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207141</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problems using your words, bi?

Go to Deltoid (in Scienceblogs - see &#039;Tim Lambert&#039; in the blogroll here) and search for &#039;DDT&#039;.  There will be links to many academic articles about DDT.

Not as entertaining as propaganda mill BS, but that&#039;s one of the things about being an adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Problems using your words, bi?</p>

	<p>Go to Deltoid (in Scienceblogs &#8211; see &#8216;Tim Lambert&#8217; in the blogroll here) and search for &#8216;DDT&#8217;.  There will be links to many academic articles about <span class="caps">DDT</span>.</p>

	<p>Not as entertaining as propaganda mill BS, but that&#8217;s one of the things about being an adult.</p>
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		<title>By: qtn</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207059</link>
		<dc:creator>qtn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this topic always reminds me of the flying cats of borneo: http://www.cdra.org.za/creativity/Parachuting%20cats%20into%20Borneo.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>this topic always reminds me of the flying cats of borneo: <a href="http://www.cdra.org.za/creativity/Parachuting%20cats%20into%20Borneo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdra.org.za/creativity/Parachuting%20cats%20into%20Borneo.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: bi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207057</link>
		<dc:creator>bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow great. So there&#039;s no outright ban on DDT, but there&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; ban.

In other words, Milloy&#039;s wrong, but he&#039;s still right...?

Goo goo g&#039;joob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow great. So there&#8217;s no outright ban on <span class="caps">DDT</span>, but there&#8217;s a <i>de facto</i> ban.</p>

	<p>In other words, Milloy&#8217;s wrong, but he&#8217;s still right&#8230;?</p>

	<p>Goo goo g&#8217;joob.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207041</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is, in some sense inevitable, that aid will come with strings attached, and that these strings will be pulled by domestic political forces in the donor countries.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And &quot;the ban&quot; that never existed was implemented by donor countries pulling strings the &lt;i&gt;other way&lt;/i&gt;.  For instance, the EU will not accept agro imports from countries with detectable levels of DDT.  While not &lt;i&gt;de jure&lt;/i&gt; ban, this is a &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; ban on agro imports, prohibiting DDT usage, in the same spirit of 40 years of donor countries manipulating who can use DDT.

And to claim that the environmental movement didn&#039;t have a &lt;i&gt;strong say&lt;/i&gt; in the change of DDT usage in the 60&#039;s onward is ... misinformed at best.  But since these arguments continue to be ignored or just shouted down here and at Deltoid, I know that the &quot;at best&quot; is too kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>It is, in some sense inevitable, that aid will come with strings attached, and that these strings will be pulled by domestic political forces in the donor countries.</blockquote></p>

	<p>And &#8220;the ban&#8221; that never existed was implemented by donor countries pulling strings the <i>other way</i>.  For instance, the EU will not accept agro imports from countries with detectable levels of <span class="caps">DDT</span>.  While not <i>de jure</i> ban, this is a <i>de facto</i> ban on agro imports, prohibiting <span class="caps">DDT</span> usage, in the same spirit of 40 years of donor countries manipulating who can use <span class="caps">DDT</span>.</p>

	<p>And to claim that the environmental movement didn&#8217;t have a <i>strong say</i> in the change of <span class="caps">DDT</span> usage in the 60&#8217;s onward is &#8230; misinformed at best.  But since these arguments continue to be ignored or just shouted down here and at Deltoid, I know that the &#8220;at best&#8221; is too kind.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207030</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this issue of repellence was discussed a while ago on a blog by called Bug Girl, who is an entymologist (maybe you can get to it through Deltoid). From memory she concluded that the repellence aspect (which is well known) has been overstated, particularly in regards to the  development of resistance. But I know nothing about this stuff, I just read it in passing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think this issue of repellence was discussed a while ago on a blog by called Bug Girl, who is an entymologist (maybe you can get to it through Deltoid). From memory she concluded that the repellence aspect (which is well known) has been overstated, particularly in regards to the  development of resistance. But I know nothing about this stuff, I just read it in passing.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dcp2.org/pubs/DCP/21/Section/2854</description>
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		<title>By: HS Debate &#8216;08 &#124; After Corbu</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-207000</link>
		<dc:creator>HS Debate &#8216;08 &#124; After Corbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crooked Timber has a good summary of recent studies on using DDT to fight Malaria. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Crooked Timber has a good summary of recent studies on using <span class="caps">DDT</span> to fight Malaria. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: swampcracker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-206995</link>
		<dc:creator>swampcracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  DDT is not a repellent; it’s a repugnant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>P.S.  <span class="caps">DDT</span> is not a repellent; it&#8217;s a repugnant.</p>
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		<title>By: swampcracker</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/09/ddt-as-a-repellent/comment-page-1/#comment-206991</link>
		<dc:creator>swampcracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Follow the money.&quot;  One would think their former affiliations would tell you everything about them.

Not one of them is qualified toxicologist. It amazes me how a JD degree still trumps a PhD in science.

These AFM folks are belicose nut cases.  Why pay them any more attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Follow the money.&#8221;  One would think their former affiliations would tell you everything about them.</p>

	<p>Not one of them is qualified toxicologist. It amazes me how a JD degree still trumps a PhD in science.</p>

	<p>These <span class="caps">AFM</span> folks are belicose nut cases.  Why pay them any more attention?</p>
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