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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Thanatos</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209224</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanatos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABB1 couldn&#039;t be more right!

War is really the only mechanism Gaia has left for controlling the human population. Your mortality and your inability to get along with each other combine to limit the acceleration of your otherwise infinite growth.

Predators won&#039;t do it because you exterminate them. Disease won&#039;t do it because your medical technology is too clever. Starvation won&#039;t do it because you engineer efficient food systems. Resource depletion may not even do it because you&#039;re working on alternative energy sources. But one thing can always be counted on for sure - you&#039;ll find things to fight about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">ABB1</span> couldn&#8217;t be more right!</p>

	<p>War is really the only mechanism Gaia has left for controlling the human population. Your mortality and your inability to get along with each other combine to limit the acceleration of your otherwise infinite growth.</p>

	<p>Predators won&#8217;t do it because you exterminate them. Disease won&#8217;t do it because your medical technology is too clever. Starvation won&#8217;t do it because you engineer efficient food systems. Resource depletion may not even do it because you&#8217;re working on alternative energy sources. But one thing can always be counted on for sure &#8211; you&#8217;ll find things to fight about.</p>
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		<title>By: goatchowder</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209220</link>
		<dc:creator>goatchowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly.

Kristol, Perle, Ledeen, Lieberman, Lantos, and quite a few other prominent lunatic Neocons are Jewish.

I&#039;m pretty sure that Jon Stewart, Glenn Greenwald, Robert Greenwald, Barbara Boxer, Eli Pariser, George Soros, Greg Palast, and many other prominent voices of reason opposing &quot;preemptive war&quot; in Iraq, Iran, and elsewhere, are also Jewish.

What difference does it make?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is silly.</p>

	<p>Kristol, Perle, Ledeen, Lieberman, Lantos, and quite a few other prominent lunatic Neocons are Jewish.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that Jon Stewart, Glenn Greenwald, Robert Greenwald, Barbara Boxer, Eli Pariser, George Soros, Greg Palast, and many other prominent voices of reason opposing &#8220;preemptive war&#8221; in Iraq, Iran, and elsewhere, are also Jewish.</p>

	<p>What difference does it make?</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209120</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, people don&#039;t just turn into a Scotsman for no reason at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You see, people don&#8217;t just turn into a Scotsman for no reason at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209099</link>
		<dc:creator>bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we all know, just about everyone who&#039;s completely &lt;em&gt;un&lt;/em&gt;affiliated with Al Qaeda is... a terrorist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As we all know, just about everyone who&#8217;s completely <em>un</em>affiliated with Al Qaeda is&#8230; a terrorist!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209098</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It specifically calls Mitch McConnell a Capitol Hill Likudnik.&lt;/em&gt;  

No it doesn&#039;t.  It describes a &quot;rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks&quot;, without specifically mentioning anyone there apart from Bibi Netanyahu and Joe Leiberman.  In the same paragraph, a proposed bill is mentioned that is being co-sponsored by Feinstein and McConnell.  If that&#039;s the best you can do...  

&lt;em&gt;That was your challenge, but now you’ve changed it so that it explicitly excludes Mitch McConnell?&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, my challenge was to find &quot;a bunch of prominent references&quot; to non-Jewish American &quot;Likudniks&quot;.  There might be one or two obscure references out there, but in the vast majority of highly visible cases, an American who is identified as a &quot;Likudnik&quot; turns out to be someone who is completely unaffiliated with the Likud party, but who does happen to be Jewish.  I&#039;m frankly surprised that anyone&#039;s disputing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>It specifically calls Mitch McConnell a Capitol Hill Likudnik.</em></p>

	<p>No it doesn&#8217;t.  It describes a &#8220;rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks&#8221;, without specifically mentioning anyone there apart from Bibi Netanyahu and Joe Leiberman.  In the same paragraph, a proposed bill is mentioned that is being co-sponsored by Feinstein and McConnell.  If that&#8217;s the best you can do&#8230;</p>

	<p><em>That was your challenge, but now you&#8217;ve changed it so that it explicitly excludes Mitch McConnell?</em></p>

	<p>Actually, my challenge was to find &#8220;a bunch of prominent references&#8221; to non-Jewish American &#8220;Likudniks&#8221;.  There might be one or two obscure references out there, but in the vast majority of highly visible cases, an American who is identified as a &#8220;Likudnik&#8221; turns out to be someone who is completely unaffiliated with the Likud party, but who does happen to be Jewish.  I&#8217;m frankly surprised that anyone&#8217;s disputing this.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209095</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop the squabbling, people. Unite and concentrate on defeating the world-wide insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of Iranian Mullahs, as revealed in well-reasoned, well-written articles by Messrs Kristol, Ledeen and other American patriots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Stop the squabbling, people. Unite and concentrate on defeating the world-wide insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of Iranian Mullahs, as revealed in well-reasoned, well-written articles by Messrs Kristol, Ledeen and other American patriots.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209091</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That’s the same power that, say, we have as bloggers and blog commenters.&lt;/i&gt;

Now you are just taking the piss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>That&#8217;s the same power that, say, we have as bloggers and blog commenters.</i></p>

	<p>Now you are just taking the piss.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Kvetch</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209087</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Kvetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Unless, of course, you consider the insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of J-er, “Likudniks”…&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t expect this comment to survive deletion, but what the hell:

Dan, shut the fuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Unless, of course, you consider the insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of J-er, &#8220;Likudniks&#8221;&#8230;</i></p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t expect this comment to survive deletion, but what the hell:</p>

	<p>Dan, shut the fuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are you somehow disputing that they have a heavy influence on both policy and the ongoing debate about policy?&lt;/em&gt;

You mean by, say, publishing their opinions?  The Kristols have both been magazine editors, and the son was briefly an advisor to Dan Quayle, of all people.  Ledeen is a journalist and academic who is said to have been an off-and-on consultant to various Republicans over the years.  May and Gaffney (at last, some non-&quot;Likudniks&quot;!) run think-tanks that churn out reams of breathless statements.  Only Kenneth Adelman, of all the people you mention, can be said to have had any significant power, beyond the writer&#039;s power to influence people with well-reasoned, well-written arguments.  That&#039;s the same power that, say, we have as bloggers and blog commenters.

Unless, of course, you consider the insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of J-er, &quot;Likudniks&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>Are you somehow disputing that they have a heavy influence on both policy and the ongoing debate about policy?</em></p>

	<p>You mean by, say, publishing their opinions?  The Kristols have both been magazine editors, and the son was briefly an advisor to Dan Quayle, of all people.  Ledeen is a journalist and academic who is said to have been an off-and-on consultant to various Republicans over the years.  May and Gaffney (at last, some non-&#8221;Likudniks&#8221;!) run think-tanks that churn out reams of breathless statements.  Only Kenneth Adelman, of all the people you mention, can be said to have had any significant power, beyond the writer&#8217;s power to influence people with well-reasoned, well-written arguments.  That&#8217;s the same power that, say, we have as bloggers and blog commenters.</p>

	<p>Unless, of course, you consider the insidious behind-the-scenes influence notoriously wielded by a large, sinister cabal of J-er, &#8220;Likudniks&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan simon that is a stupid misreading of the article. It specifically calls Mitch McConnell a Capitol Hill Likudnik. That was your challenge,  but now you&#039;ve changed it so that it explicitly excludes Mitch McConnell? You have a problem there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dan simon that is a stupid misreading of the article. It specifically calls Mitch McConnell a Capitol Hill Likudnik. That was your challenge,  but now you&#8217;ve changed it so that it explicitly excludes Mitch McConnell? You have a problem there.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209017</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far as I&#039;m concerned, only an Islamofascist could call a good American patriot &#039;Likudnik&#039; - heck, even if he&#039;s actually pro-Likud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Far as I&#8217;m concerned, only an Islamofascist could call a good American patriot &#8216;Likudnik&#8217; &#8211; heck, even if he&#8217;s actually pro-Likud.</p>
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		<title>By: nick s</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-209016</link>
		<dc:creator>nick s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;alluding to powerful, undemocratic behind-the-scenes players like “the Kristols and Adelmans and Ledeens”.&lt;/i&gt;

Uh, right. I wasn&#039;t alluding: let&#039;s use Bill Kristol and his dad, Cakewalk Ken, Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen and Clifford May as our sample. 

Are you somehow disputing that they have a heavy influence on both policy and the ongoing debate about policy? Are you disputing that none of them has ever had his positions directly endorsed by the popular vote? Or are you trying to insinuate anti-semitism without looking like Marty Peretz?

If so, what uncle kvetch said: go the whole way and call me a Jew-hater. I don&#039;t give a shit.

The most hawkish Republican member of Congress in the most gerrymandered red-state district has, at very least, the mandate of his or her district. It makes me nauseous to say it, but even Tom &#039;Nuke Mecca&#039; Tancredo has more political legitimacy than Bill fucking Kristol.

&lt;i&gt;Imputing an Israeli political affiliation to him is just a slimy way to cast aspersions about his national loyalties&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. Ledeen&#039;s loyalties are much more identifiable with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/10/10/man_of_the_world/?page=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Italian fascists&lt;/a&gt; he so relishes, whether he cares to admit it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>alluding to powerful, undemocratic behind-the-scenes players like &#8220;the Kristols and Adelmans and Ledeens&#8221;.</i></p>

	<p>Uh, right. I wasn&#8217;t alluding: let&#8217;s use Bill Kristol and his dad, Cakewalk Ken, Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen and Clifford May as our sample.</p>

	<p>Are you somehow disputing that they have a heavy influence on both policy and the ongoing debate about policy? Are you disputing that none of them has ever had his positions directly endorsed by the popular vote? Or are you trying to insinuate anti-semitism without looking like Marty Peretz?</p>

	<p>If so, what uncle kvetch said: go the whole way and call me a Jew-hater. I don&#8217;t give a shit.</p>

	<p>The most hawkish Republican member of Congress in the most gerrymandered red-state district has, at very least, the mandate of his or her district. It makes me nauseous to say it, but even Tom &#8216;Nuke Mecca&#8217; Tancredo has more political legitimacy than Bill fucking Kristol.</p>

	<p><i>Imputing an Israeli political affiliation to him is just a slimy way to cast aspersions about his national loyalties</i></p>

	<p>Indeed. Ledeen&#8217;s loyalties are much more identifiable with the <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/10/10/man_of_the_world/?page=2" rel="nofollow">Italian fascists</a> he so relishes, whether he cares to admit it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;They would make good Likudniks,” he said.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, this example illustrates my point beautifully.  Michael Ledeen, William Kristol and Richard Perle are Americans who have ideas about Israel that are probably very similar to those of the evangelicals cited in the article.  They are often labeled as &quot;Likudniks&quot; (despite being American non-Israelis with no Israeli political affiliation).  But nobody would &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; say about them that they &quot;would make good Likudniks&quot;--sort of the way nobody ever says of, say, Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy that they &quot;would make good rednecks.&quot;  

One might, however, say just that about someone who&#039;s in many ways extremely &lt;em&gt;similar&lt;/em&gt; to a Likudnik or a redneck, but nevertheless &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; one--by virtue, perhaps, of being of the wrong ethnicity...

&lt;em&gt;At this rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, this one reference mentions Mitch McConnell--in a paragraph about Joe Leiberman inviting Bibi Netanyahu to chat with McConnell and his bill&#039;s co-sponsor, Dianne Feinstein.  Notice, though, that this search result does &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; label Falwell a Likudnik.  Like the vast majority of results under the search &#039;Falwell Likudnik&#039;, it explicitly labels &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; people--either unidentified people, or people of, ahem, a certain persuasion, but &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; Falwell--as &quot;Likudniks&quot;.  And if you try the same exercise with searches such as &#039;Cheney Likudnik&#039; and &#039;Rumsfeld Likudnik&#039;, you&#039;ll see that they, too, are almost always explicitly excluded from the list of &quot;Likudniks&quot;.   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>They would make good Likudniks,&#8221; he said.</em></p>

	<p>Actually, this example illustrates my point beautifully.  Michael Ledeen, William Kristol and Richard Perle are Americans who have ideas about Israel that are probably very similar to those of the evangelicals cited in the article.  They are often labeled as &#8220;Likudniks&#8221; (despite being American non-Israelis with no Israeli political affiliation).  But nobody would <em>ever</em> say about them that they &#8220;would make good Likudniks&#8221;&#8212;sort of the way nobody ever says of, say, Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy that they &#8220;would make good rednecks.&#8221;</p>

	<p>One might, however, say just that about someone who&#8217;s in many ways extremely <em>similar</em> to a Likudnik or a redneck, but nevertheless <em>isn&#8217;t</em> one&#8212;by virtue, perhaps, of being of the wrong ethnicity&#8230;</p>

	<p><em>At this rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks</em></p>

	<p>Yes, this one reference mentions Mitch McConnell&#8212;in a paragraph about Joe Leiberman inviting Bibi Netanyahu to chat with McConnell and his bill&#8217;s co-sponsor, Dianne Feinstein.  Notice, though, that this search result does <em>not</em> label Falwell a Likudnik.  Like the vast majority of results under the search &#8216;Falwell Likudnik&#8217;, it explicitly labels <em>other</em> people&#8212;either unidentified people, or people of, ahem, a certain persuasion, but <em>not</em> Falwell&#8212;as &#8220;Likudniks&#8221;.  And if you try the same exercise with searches such as &#8216;Cheney Likudnik&#8217; and &#8216;Rumsfeld Likudnik&#8217;, you&#8217;ll see that they, too, are almost always explicitly excluded from the list of &#8220;Likudniks&#8221;.</p>

	<p>I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Simon, I googled jerry falwell likudnik and got these two articles within a few seconds:

washington post, march 27 2004:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Eckstein, whose organization conducted the informal survey of evangelicals, said most people who contribute to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews do so for religious reasons but also want to show their political solidarity with Israel. They oppose any withdrawal of Jewish settlers and &quot;are very distrustful of Palestinians, of [Yasser] Arafat. They would make good Likudniks,&quot; he said.
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which suggests conservative jews (may I call Eckstein a Jew?) don&#039;t have a problem with identifying non-Jewish Americans as Likudniks.

From antiwar.org:
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 A move is afoot in Congress to pass a bill co-authored by Senators Diane Feinstein (D-California) and Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) to deny visas to PA officials, close down the Palestinian office in Washington, and have the PLO declared a terrorist organization on the same level with Al Qaeda. At this rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks
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I don&#039;t think Mitch McConnell is Jewish, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan Simon, I googled jerry falwell likudnik and got these two articles within a few seconds:</p>

	<p>washington post, march 27 2004:</p>

	<p><blockquote><br />
Eckstein, whose organization conducted the informal survey of evangelicals, said most people who contribute to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews do so for religious reasons but also want to show their political solidarity with Israel. They oppose any withdrawal of Jewish settlers and &#8220;are very distrustful of Palestinians, of [Yasser] Arafat. They would make good Likudniks,&#8221; he said.<br />
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which suggests conservative jews (may I call Eckstein a Jew?) don&#8217;t have a problem with identifying non-Jewish Americans as Likudniks.</p>

	<p>From antiwar.org:<br />
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A move is afoot in Congress to pass a bill co-authored by Senators Diane Feinstein (D-California) and Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) to deny visas to PA officials, close down the Palestinian office in Washington, and have the <span class="caps">PLO</span> declared a terrorist organization on the same level with Al Qaeda. At this rally of Capitol Hill Likudniks<br />
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	<p>I don&#8217;t think Mitch McConnell is Jewish, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Simon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/08/29/where-the-smarm-hits-the-road/comment-page-1/#comment-208999</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And there&#039;s nothing wrong with using the word &quot;Jewish&quot; to identify actual Jews.  Does that mean it would have been fine for Barry to refer to Ledeen as &quot;one of the hardest-core of the AEI/Jewish warmongers&quot;?

Ledeen is, as far as I know, a member of the US Republican party and an American citizen, and neither an Israeli citizen nor a member of any Israeli political party.  His son is in the United States Marines, not the Israeli army.  Imputing an Israeli political affiliation to him is just a slimy way to cast aspersions about his national loyalties based on his religion and ethnicity, without actually coming right out and saying, &quot;Jewish&quot;.  

And if you want to prove me wrong, all you have to do is find a bunch of prominent references to Jerry Falwell or some other pro-Israel (heck, even pro-Likud) non-Jewish American as &quot;Likudnik&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8230;And there&#8217;s nothing wrong with using the word &#8220;Jewish&#8221; to identify actual Jews.  Does that mean it would have been fine for Barry to refer to Ledeen as &#8220;one of the hardest-core of the <span class="caps">AEI</span>/Jewish warmongers&#8221;?</p>

	<p>Ledeen is, as far as I know, a member of the <span class="caps">US </span>Republican party and an American citizen, and neither an Israeli citizen nor a member of any Israeli political party.  His son is in the United States Marines, not the Israeli army.  Imputing an Israeli political affiliation to him is just a slimy way to cast aspersions about his national loyalties based on his religion and ethnicity, without actually coming right out and saying, &#8220;Jewish&#8221;.</p>

	<p>And if you want to prove me wrong, all you have to do is find a bunch of prominent references to Jerry Falwell or some other pro-Israel (heck, even pro-Likud) non-Jewish American as &#8220;Likudnik&#8221;.</p>
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