Comments on: Burma: a real place http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 27 May 2012 03:55:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: john m. http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212231 john m. Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:28:59 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212231 Hi Chris, Does the lack of interest in this thread not only from CT's readers but also contributors not speak volumes about the realities of (primarily) western world politics? Now they've started shooting civilians as per 1988 - let's hope they don't kill as many this time - and the response from the west is really very meek...consider if this was taking place in Iran. I'm not having a go at you btw - you post was a fair request for information and at least you raised the issue. On a completely different note, good luck against Tonga tonight. I didn't mean that. Hi Chris,

Does the lack of interest in this thread not only from CT’s readers but also contributors not speak volumes about the realities of (primarily) western world politics? Now they’ve started shooting civilians as per 1988 – let’s hope they don’t kill as many this time – and the response from the west is really very meek…consider if this was taking place in Iran. I’m not having a go at you btw – you post was a fair request for information and at least you raised the issue.

On a completely different note, good luck against Tonga tonight. I didn’t mean that.

]]> By: Kevin R. Manning http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212156 Kevin R. Manning Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:59:21 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212156 www.irrawaddy.org, sorry bad formatting http://www.irrawaddy.org, sorry bad formatting

]]> By: Kevin R. Manning http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212154 Kevin R. Manning Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:58:51 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212154 I used to write for a magazine on Burma that was founded by activists in exile in Chiang Mai, Thailand. It is closely following all the recent activities. Check out <a href="www.irrawaddy.org" title="www.irrawaddy.org" rel="nofollow"></a> I used to write for a magazine on Burma that was founded by activists in exile in Chiang Mai, Thailand. It is closely following all the recent activities. Check out

]]> By: Neil http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212112 Neil Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:59:02 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212112 You don't appear to have taken the advice of the post's title Chris. Making this issue a pretext for attacking "the decents" is hardly, er, decent. And such a weak pretext too. Having to imagine what they might say. You don’t appear to have taken the advice of the post’s title Chris. Making this issue a pretext for attacking “the decents” is hardly, er, decent.

And such a weak pretext too. Having to imagine what they might say.

]]> By: Mary Dudziak http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212065 Mary Dudziak Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:17:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212065 Typo in #10. Should have been New Mandala. Sorry. Here's the link: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/ Typo in #10. Should have been New Mandala. Sorry. Here’s the link: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/

]]> By: c.l. ball http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212060 c.l. ball Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:02:41 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212060 <i>Finding George Orwell in Burma</i> (Penguin, 2005) is a fascinating travelogue by a western journalist, allegedly fluent in Burmese, writing under the pseudonym Emma Larkin. She describes it as a <i>1984</i>-like country. Finding George Orwell in Burma (Penguin, 2005) is a fascinating travelogue by a western journalist, allegedly fluent in Burmese, writing under the pseudonym Emma Larkin.

She describes it as a 1984-like country.

]]> By: Mary Dudziak http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212034 Mary Dudziak Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:34:19 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212034 Academic commentary is collected at New Mandela, here: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/2007/09/27/academic-commentary-on-burma-uprising/ and more updates on the main page, here: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/ Academic commentary is collected at New Mandela, here:
http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/2007/09/27/academic-commentary-on-burma-uprising/
and more updates on the main page, here:
http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/

]]> By: a different mikey http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212012 a different mikey Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:27:35 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212012 Click through Jamie K's to the burmese blog. It links to some good pictures of what's going on. Click through Jamie K’s to the burmese blog. It links to some good pictures of what’s going on.

]]> By: a different mikey http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-212006 a different mikey Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:06:37 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-212006 I have lots to say about Burma. Here's a start from a couple of months ago: http://2beeherenowcom.wordpress.com/2007/07/21/elders-do-at-least-one-thing-right/ I've been preoccupied all week, wishing I could be there. I have lots to say about Burma. Here’s a start from a couple of months ago:

http://2beeherenowcom.wordpress.com/2007/07/21/elders-do-at-least-one-thing-right/

I’ve been preoccupied all week, wishing I could be there.

]]> By: sharon http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211994 sharon Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:58:51 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211994 At the risk of being slightly old fashioned, you might try searching the online newspaper archives. (Over the last several years - not so much very recently - I've read plenty of reports in the Guardian. That would probably include something on dear old Ken Clarke's chummy tobacco business dealings with the Burmese government a few years back.) At the risk of being slightly old fashioned, you might try searching the online newspaper archives. (Over the last several years – not so much very recently – I’ve read plenty of reports in the Guardian. That would probably include something on dear old Ken Clarke’s chummy tobacco business dealings with the Burmese government a few years back.)

]]> By: whomever1 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211993 whomever1 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:55:01 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211993 I took part in a protest march around the Chinese Consulate in L.A. last week with Students for a Free Burma--they were protesting China's veto of any condemnation of Myanmar in the U.N. The protest was announced on http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/. I have to say it was the most polite protest I've ever been on--the sign they (mostly Burmese students from one of the Cal State campuses). The sign they gave me said "Review China's Policy on Burma". I took part in a protest march around the Chinese Consulate in L.A. last week with Students for a Free Burma—they were protesting China’s veto of any condemnation of Myanmar in the U.N. The protest was announced on http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/.
I have to say it was the most polite protest I’ve ever been on—the sign they (mostly Burmese students from one of the Cal State campuses). The sign they gave me said “Review China’s Policy on Burma”.

]]> By: Hilary Kornblith http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211978 Hilary Kornblith Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:31:41 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211978 For background, try Emma Larkin's Finding George Orwell in Burma. For background, try Emma Larkin’s Finding George Orwell in Burma.

]]> By: The Happy Revolutionary http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211976 The Happy Revolutionary Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:20:45 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211976 There's also this <a href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/2007/09/coopting-myanmar-revolt.html" rel="nofollow">post</a> at Leninology. There’s also this post at Leninology.

]]> By: M. Gemmill http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211975 M. Gemmill Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:15:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211975 I have also been trying to follow events in Myanmar, though I know very little about it other than the same thumb nail sketch that you probably have. I haven't had a lot of luck finding Burma/Myanmar blogs, and those that I have found are mostly in Burmese (which shows up on my screen as a collection of question marks). However, I've posted on the situation in Myanmar twice in the last couple days at <a href="http://duckofminerva.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Duck of Minerva</a>, though I haven't been able to add anything today because Blogger is completely bloggered up and I can't log in. Hopefully, Google will get the damn thing fixed soon and I can post updates... I have also been trying to follow events in Myanmar, though I know very little about it other than the same thumb nail sketch that you probably have. I haven’t had a lot of luck finding Burma/Myanmar blogs, and those that I have found are mostly in Burmese (which shows up on my screen as a collection of question marks). However, I’ve posted on the situation in Myanmar twice in the last couple days at Duck of Minerva, though I haven’t been able to add anything today because Blogger is completely bloggered up and I can’t log in. Hopefully, Google will get the damn thing fixed soon and I can post updates…

]]> By: stuart http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/comment-page-1/#comment-211973 stuart Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:04:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/09/26/burma-a-real-place/#comment-211973 came up with this site from George Aaron Broadwell at SUNY that seems related: <a href="http://www.albany.edu/~gb661/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Mon</a> came up with this site from George Aaron Broadwell at SUNY that seems related:

The Mon

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