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	<title>Comments on: Alesina and Giavazzi have a point</title>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213309</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsquared #18:

&lt;i&gt;(I also don’t accept the implied assumption that unemployment in France and similar European countries is involuntary – these are all countries with high replacement ratios and generous unemployment benefit terms).&lt;/i&gt;

So, the straightforward recommendation would be to cut back on benefits, right? This of course is the standard right wing line on unemployment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dsquared #18:</p>

	<p><i>(I also don&#8217;t accept the implied assumption that unemployment in France and similar European countries is involuntary &#8211; these are all countries with high replacement ratios and generous unemployment benefit terms).</i></p>

	<p>So, the straightforward recommendation would be to cut back on benefits, right? This of course is the standard right wing line on unemployment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213308</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #24 

It&#039;s not simply a question of more or less liberalisation. It&#039;s how you liberalise, how you regulate, how you tax, and how you protect. This is the crucial point in considering different welfare models. The Scandinavian countries, for instance, have notoriously high taxes and welfare levels. At the same time they have relatively well-functioning labour markets that on some dimensions are quite free-market based. 

In particular, it&#039;s easy to fire people (particularly in Denmark), and there are strict requirements on unemployed that they seek and take available jobs.

Regarding the EU as a single market: Well, yes, but by no means a single labour market. There are all sorts of local particularities and oddities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re #24</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s not simply a question of more or less liberalisation. It&#8217;s how you liberalise, how you regulate, how you tax, and how you protect. This is the crucial point in considering different welfare models. The Scandinavian countries, for instance, have notoriously high taxes and welfare levels. At the same time they have relatively well-functioning labour markets that on some dimensions are quite free-market based.</p>

	<p>In particular, it&#8217;s easy to fire people (particularly in Denmark), and there are strict requirements on unemployed that they seek and take available jobs.</p>

	<p>Regarding the EU as a single market: Well, yes, but by no means a single labour market. There are all sorts of local particularities and oddities.</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213243</link>
		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22: possibly, although obviously being at university is a) more fun and b) more useful than simply hanging around on the dole (or for that matter, being in prison, which matter surely ought to be brought up if we&#039;re comparing US and European unemployment rates).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#22: possibly, although obviously being at university is a) more fun and b) more useful than simply hanging around on the dole (or for that matter, being in prison, which matter surely ought to be brought up if we&#8217;re comparing US and European unemployment rates).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213241</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links and references although I&#039;m more interested here in the analysis than in scholastic priorities and it&#039;s important to get away from the mistaken notion that there&#039;s a uniform model for capitalism on mainland Europe that is not Anglo-Saxon.

To put that another way, some EU economies with high tax burdens are notably more successful than others. We need to take account of that and attempt to ascertain why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the links and references although I&#8217;m more interested here in the analysis than in scholastic priorities and it&#8217;s important to get away from the mistaken notion that there&#8217;s a uniform model for capitalism on mainland Europe that is not Anglo-Saxon.</p>

	<p>To put that another way, some EU economies with high tax burdens are notably more successful than others. We need to take account of that and attempt to ascertain why.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213236</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob b, Bruno Amable has published a daunting number of works, most of them are available at his web site, which in turn is the first google hit on his name. 

Stostosto, sure people categorised economic systems before Amable. However, that particular classification (Nordic...) is due to him (or so I believe, I could be wrong of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob b, Bruno Amable has published a daunting number of works, most of them are available at his web site, which in turn is the first google hit on his name.</p>

	<p>Stostosto, sure people categorised economic systems before Amable. However, that particular classification (Nordic&#8230;) is due to him (or so I believe, I could be wrong of course).</p>
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		<title>By: stostosto</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213233</link>
		<dc:creator>stostosto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re ##20, 21 &amp; 22: 

I have sometimes seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B8sta_Esping-Andersen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gøsta Esping-Andersen&lt;/a&gt; credited with a seminal attempt at categorising welfare states, in 1990.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re ##20, 21 &#038; 22:</p>

	<p>I have sometimes seen <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B8sta_Esping-Andersen" rel="nofollow">G&#248;sta Esping-Andersen</a> credited with a seminal attempt at categorising welfare states, in 1990.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213229</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/the-european-union/why-france-must-reform-must-i-tell-you&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I think this piece of mine&lt;/a&gt; stands up rather well on the subject of exaggerating France&#039;s problems for internal political purposes, as does this &lt;a href=&quot;http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/economics-and-demography/circular-logic-watch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;onethis one of Emmanuel&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; on the media.

You have to wonder whether, even if 22 is true, if they go into higher value-added jobs in the end it&#039;s not a blessing in disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/the-european-union/why-france-must-reform-must-i-tell-you" rel="nofollow">I think this piece of mine</a> stands up rather well on the subject of exaggerating France&#8217;s problems for internal political purposes, as does this <a href="http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/economics-and-demography/circular-logic-watch" rel="nofollow">onethis one of Emmanuel&#8217;s</a> on the media.</p>

	<p>You have to wonder whether, even if 22 is true, if they go into higher value-added jobs in the end it&#8217;s not a blessing in disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the limits of labour market flexibility in explaining European unemployment with this detailed review of the econometric evidence:

http://www.cepr.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=66&amp;Itemid=8

It doesn&#039;t suit Alesina &amp; Giavazzi (and others) to notice but the EU is a single market, largely operating with one currency. Much is made of limited remaining barriers, but essentially the trend for two decades or more has been for major market liberalisation. It hasn&#039;t delivered noticeably better performance, indeed actual gains have typically been below predicted. And so the mantra continues that more liberalisation must be needed, it must all be down to remaining barriers to economic activity. Alternative explanations for European economic performance are ruled out by assumption at the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>More on the limits of labour market flexibility in explaining European unemployment with this detailed review of the econometric evidence:</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.cepr.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=66&#038;Itemid=8" rel="nofollow">http://www.cepr.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=66&#038;Itemid=8</a></p>

	<p>It doesn&#8217;t suit Alesina &#038; Giavazzi (and others) to notice but the EU is a single market, largely operating with one currency. Much is made of limited remaining barriers, but essentially the trend for two decades or more has been for major market liberalisation. It hasn&#8217;t delivered noticeably better performance, indeed actual gains have typically been below predicted. And so the mantra continues that more liberalisation must be needed, it must all be down to remaining barriers to economic activity. Alternative explanations for European economic performance are ruled out by assumption at the start.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213219</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the division of eureopean economies in four areas (Nordic, Anglo-saxon, Continental, Mediterranean) is not due to André Sapir but to a series of works by Boyer and most notably Bruno Amable.&quot;

Please post the links.

I cited the Sapir paper because it is readily accessible and was circulated to ECOFIN ministers in 2005 during the UK&#039;s presidency of the EU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;the division of eureopean economies in four areas (Nordic, Anglo-saxon, Continental, Mediterranean) is not due to Andr&#233; Sapir but to a series of works by Boyer and most notably Bruno Amable.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Please post the links.</p>

	<p>I cited the Sapir paper because it is readily accessible and was circulated to <span class="caps">ECOFIN</span> ministers in 2005 during the UK&#8217;s presidency of the EU.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom T.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 18.  How is cause and effect determined?  What if the French youth are staying in school in higher rates because there aren&#039;t jobs available when they leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re: 18.  How is cause and effect determined?  What if the French youth are staying in school in higher rates because there aren&#8217;t jobs available when they leave?</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213217</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the sake of scientific exactitude, I remark that the division of eureopean economies in four areas (Nordic, Anglo-saxon, Continental, Mediterranean) is not due to André Sapir but to a series of works by Boyer and most notably Bruno Amable. Highly recommended, if I may say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For the sake of scientific exactitude, I remark that the division of eureopean economies in four areas (Nordic, Anglo-saxon, Continental, Mediterranean) is not due to Andr&#233; Sapir but to a series of works by Boyer and most notably Bruno Amable. Highly recommended, if I may say so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213208</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which suggests that it makes as much sense to talk about the &#039;Anglo-Saxon model&#039; as it does about a &#039;European&#039; one.&quot;

One important insight is that there isn&#039;t a uniform European alternative to the Anglo-Saxon model. Try this influential paper on: Globalisation and the reform of the European social models, prepared by André Sapir for the think-tank Bruegel, and presented at the ECOFIN Informal Meeting in Manchester in September 2005. 

It argued that there is not one European social model, but rather four - the Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, Mediterranean and the Continental: 

• The Nordic model (welfare state, high level of social protection, high level of taxation, extensive intervention in the labour market, mostly in the form of job-seeking incentives)
• The Anglo-Saxon system (more limited collective provision of social protection merely to cushion the impact of events that would lead to poverty)
• The continental model (provision of social assistance through public insurance-based systems; limited role of the market in the provision of social assistance)
• The Mediterranean social welfare system (high legal employment protection; lower levels of unemployment benefits; spending concentrated on pensions)

http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-146338-16&amp;type=News

Andre Sapir&#039;s paper on: Globalisation and the Reform of European Social Models (November 2005), is here:
http://www.bruegel.org/Public/fileDownload.php?target=/Files/media/PDF/Publications/Policy%20Briefs/PB200501_SocialModels.pdf

On the reasons for the UK&#039;s relatively low productivity performance compared with other major European economies, this is one of the main conclusions in a research project at the LSE :

&quot;The persistent productivity gap between the UK and the two big continental European economies can mainly be &#039;explained&#039; by the fact that they have more capital invested per worker and their workers are more skilled.&quot;
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pressAndInformationOffice/newsAndEvents/archives/2004/UKs_ProductivityGap.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Which suggests that it makes as much sense to talk about the &#8216;Anglo-Saxon model&#8217; as it does about a &#8216;European&#8217; one.&#8221;</p>

	<p>One important insight is that there isn&#8217;t a uniform European alternative to the Anglo-Saxon model. Try this influential paper on: Globalisation and the reform of the European social models, prepared by Andr&#233; Sapir for the think-tank Bruegel, and presented at the <span class="caps">ECOFIN </span>Informal Meeting in Manchester in September 2005.</p>

	<p>It argued that there is not one European social model, but rather four &#8211; the Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, Mediterranean and the Continental:</p>

	<p>&#8226; The Nordic model (welfare state, high level of social protection, high level of taxation, extensive intervention in the labour market, mostly in the form of job-seeking incentives)<br />
&#8226; The Anglo-Saxon system (more limited collective provision of social protection merely to cushion the impact of events that would lead to poverty)<br />
&#8226; The continental model (provision of social assistance through public insurance-based systems; limited role of the market in the provision of social assistance)<br />
&#8226; The Mediterranean social welfare system (high legal employment protection; lower levels of unemployment benefits; spending concentrated on pensions)</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-146338-16&#038;type=News" rel="nofollow">http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmuri=tcm:29-146338-16&#038;type=News</a></p>

	<p>Andre Sapir&#8217;s paper on: Globalisation and the Reform of European Social Models (November 2005), is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.bruegel.org/Public/fileDownload.php?target=/Files/media/PDF/Publications/Policy%20Briefs/PB200501_SocialModels.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruegel.org/Public/fileDownload.php?target=/Files/media/PDF/Publications/Policy%20Briefs/PB200501_SocialModels.pdf</a></p>

	<p>On the reasons for the UK&#8217;s relatively low productivity performance compared with other major European economies, this is one of the main conclusions in a research project at the <span class="caps">LSE </span>:</p>

	<p>&#8220;The persistent productivity gap between the UK and the two big continental European economies can mainly be &#8216;explained&#8217; by the fact that they have more capital invested per worker and their workers are more skilled.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pressAndInformationOffice/newsAndEvents/archives/2004/UKs_ProductivityGap.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pressAndInformationOffice/newsAndEvents/archives/2004/UKs_ProductivityGap.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: notsneaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>notsneaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you were talking about the differences between UK and France, not UK/US/Australia and France. You&#039;re right then - UK does come out looking pretty bad in terms of productivity, efficiency and a whole lotta other stuff. But the comparison with US I think is different (though not as much as some people think) - there the blackboard economics starts looking somewhat better. Which suggests that it makes as much sense to talk about the &quot;Anglo-Saxon model&quot; as it does about a &quot;European&quot; one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah, you were talking about the differences between UK and France, not UK/US/Australia and France. You&#8217;re right then &#8211; UK does come out looking pretty bad in terms of productivity, efficiency and a whole lotta other stuff. But the comparison with <span class="caps">US I</span> think is different (though not as much as some people think) &#8211; there the blackboard economics starts looking somewhat better. Which suggests that it makes as much sense to talk about the &#8220;Anglo-Saxon model&#8221; as it does about a &#8220;European&#8221; one.</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213189</link>
		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radek: I looked the figures up on Eurostat for a comment on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/agnes_poirier/2006/04/the_economist_uncovered.html#comment-17754&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guardian website&lt;/a&gt; a while ago.  Basically, we&#039;re talking about an 8% difference in the employment rate, a difference in output per employee of 13% and a difference in output per hour worked of 20%.  If you do the arithmetic on the assumption that the productivity numbers are purely batting average effects, it implies amazingly (implausibly) low productivity of the marginal workers.

Also ontopic is the good old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radstats.org.uk/no088/Threlfall88.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;French youth unemployment fallacy&lt;/a&gt;.  The main reason why young people in France have a very high unemployment rate is that they have a very low labour force participation rate, because they have a very high rate of participation in full-time education.  (I also don&#039;t accept the implied assumption that unemployment in France and similar European countries is involuntary - these are all countries with high replacement ratios and generous unemployment benefit terms).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Radek: I looked the figures up on Eurostat for a comment on the <a href="http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/agnes_poirier/2006/04/the_economist_uncovered.html#comment-17754" rel="nofollow">Guardian website</a> a while ago.  Basically, we&#8217;re talking about an 8% difference in the employment rate, a difference in output per employee of 13% and a difference in output per hour worked of 20%.  If you do the arithmetic on the assumption that the productivity numbers are purely batting average effects, it implies amazingly (implausibly) low productivity of the marginal workers.</p>

	<p>Also ontopic is the good old <a href="http://www.radstats.org.uk/no088/Threlfall88.pdf" rel="nofollow">French youth unemployment fallacy</a>.  The main reason why young people in France have a very high unemployment rate is that they have a very low labour force participation rate, because they have a very high rate of participation in full-time education.  (I also don&#8217;t accept the implied assumption that unemployment in France and similar European countries is involuntary &#8211; these are all countries with high replacement ratios and generous unemployment benefit terms).</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Observer</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/08/alesina-and-giavazzi-have-a-point/comment-page-1/#comment-213180</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The characterisation of “an enormous public sector
&gt;  which rewards not the very poor but the 
&gt; most-connected” struck me as rather parochial and 
&gt; specific to Italy, and maybe some other southern 
&gt; European countries. Needing ‘pull’ to get a public
&gt;  sector job isn’t the norm in northern Europe.

EADS.

Cranky Observer

Yes, it is a real company that produces real (and often quite good) products.  But it is a public sector entity nonetheless, and it is not managed according to pure competitive principles (or even pure business principles)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>> The characterisation of &#8220;an enormous public sector<br />
>  which rewards not the very poor but the<br />
> most-connected&#8221; struck me as rather parochial and<br />
> specific to Italy, and maybe some other southern<br />
> European countries. Needing &#8216;pull&#8217; to get a public<br />
>  sector job isn&#8217;t the norm in northern Europe.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">EADS</span>.</p>

	<p>Cranky Observer</p>

	<p>Yes, it is a real company that produces real (and often quite good) products.  But it is a public sector entity nonetheless, and it is not managed according to pure competitive principles (or even pure business principles)</p>
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