Comments on: Sprawiedliwość now available http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:29:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Adam Klavnetz http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-214244 Adam Klavnetz Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:58:19 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-214244 Wy mieliście być wdzięczne co wy nie żyją w dziurze jak (podobny do; podobnie do tego; upodobanie do) Irlandia albo Polska Książka, nawiasem mówiąc, jest straszliwie! Wy mieliście być wdzięczne co wy nie żyją w dziurze jak (podobny do; podobnie do tego; upodobanie do) Irlandia albo Polska Książka, nawiasem mówiąc, jest straszliwie!

]]> By: bi http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213908 bi Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:10:17 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213908 A.B.: lolwut? A.B.: lolwut?

]]> By: A.B. http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213900 A.B. Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:58:38 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213900 The whole thing is translated as a dance number here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgv1xk5bqdg The whole thing is translated as a dance number here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgv1xk5bqdg

]]> By: dooby http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213888 dooby Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:44:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213888 spadaj. lubisz NOTSNEAKY najlepiej. my wszyscy inni tylko chcielismy milosc. Szukam tych ktorzy kochaja wszystkich polskich. notsneaky tylko ci daje pochlebstwo. (PS. i dont wont to offend poles. it is my second language). spadaj.
lubisz NOTSNEAKY najlepiej. my wszyscy inni tylko chcielismy milosc. Szukam tych ktorzy kochaja wszystkich polskich. notsneaky tylko ci daje pochlebstwo. (PS. i dont wont to offend poles. it is my second language).

]]> By: notsneaky http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213882 notsneaky Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:09:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213882 The popedliwa combined with pozandliwa was making me think distracting thoughts hence my difficulties in translating'em. Poped would be "drive". Instinct to instynkt. But that's splitting hairs. The popedliwa combined with pozandliwa was making me think distracting thoughts hence my difficulties in translating’em.

Poped would be “drive”. Instinct to instynkt. But that’s splitting hairs.

]]> By: Scott McLemee http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213880 Scott McLemee Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:47:34 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213880 My mistake -- Bauman did not contribute to the series that contains Harry's book. He did write three volumes for the series "Themes for the 21st Century," though, which is also published by Polity. My mistake—Bauman did not contribute to the series that contains Harry’s book.

He did write three volumes for the series “Themes for the 21st Century,” though, which is also published by Polity.

]]> By: Mareknyc http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213874 Mareknyc Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:38:58 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213874 notsneaky - wzorowana na = modeled on. rozumna, popedliwa i pozandliwa = rational, instinctive (poped - instinct) and covetuous (or lustful - zadza = lust, pozadzac kogos = to desire someone (sexually) pozodzac cos = to covet something. in the second paragraph 'rozroznien' means something like clarification, precisions, or differentiations or rather all at once - no exact translation. notsneaky – wzorowana na = modeled on.

rozumna, popedliwa i pozandliwa = rational, instinctive (poped – instinct) and covetuous (or lustful – zadza = lust, pozadzac kogos = to desire someone (sexually) pozodzac cos = to covet something.

in the second paragraph ‘rozroznien’ means something like clarification, precisions, or differentiations or rather all at once – no exact translation.

]]> By: harry b http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213845 harry b Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:43:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213845 thanks for all this , esp to notsenaky -- that is certainly an excerpt, and makes sense. Its a bit rich of Bauman to praise a series he has cotnributed to! (can he have read them all, I wonder?: actually, that's not fair, he's obviously v. erudite). thanks for all this , esp to notsenaky—that is certainly an excerpt, and makes sense. Its a bit rich of Bauman to praise a series he has cotnributed to! (can he have read them all, I wonder?: actually, that’s not fair, he’s obviously v. erudite).

]]> By: notsneaky http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213826 notsneaky Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:38:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213826 It's more legible here: http://www.pegaz.osdw.pl/L/43936600174KS.obr;jsessionid=98A8D51C6734EF77BCB37AEBB9B5DCA6 "Monografie zwiezle, choc ogarniajace calosc istniejaces wiedzy, napisane przez znakomitych specjalistow - Zygmunt Bauman" Something like: "Concise monographs which nonetheless exhaust the entirety of existing knowledge, written by excellent specialists" So it seems to be an endorsement of the series. But since you're a member of the series, it applies to you as well. It’s more legible here:
http://www.pegaz.osdw.pl/L/43936600174KS.obr;jsessionid=98A8D51C6734EF77BCB37AEBB9B5DCA6

“Monografie zwiezle, choc ogarniajace calosc istniejaces wiedzy, napisane przez znakomitych specjalistow – Zygmunt Bauman”

Something like:
“Concise monographs which nonetheless exhaust the entirety of existing knowledge, written by excellent specialists”

So it seems to be an endorsement of the series. But since you’re a member of the series, it applies to you as well.

]]> By: notsneaky http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213825 notsneaky Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:13:32 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213825 "Sprawiedliwa jednostka wzorowana jest na sprawiedliwym polis. Na podobieństwo miasta-państwa dusza posiada trzy części – rozumną, popędliwą i pożądliwą." "A just individual is based on (is a reflection of?) a just polis. By analogy with a city state, the soul posses three parts - the rational part, the desirous part and the ummm... driven (?) part". It makes sense in Polish, just hard to think of appropriate English words that capture it off the of the top of my head. Ok, so that's not it. At the top it says it's an excerpt. "W celu precyzyjnego określenia tematu niniejszej książki pomocne będzie rozpoczęcie naszych rozważań od wprowadzenia kilku rozróżnień dotyczących sprawiedliwości. Pierwsze znane nam teksty odnoszące się do tego zagadnienia przekazane nam zostały przez starożytnych filozofów greckich." "In order to precisely outline the subject matter of this book, it will be useful to begin our considerations by introducing several ... different themes (??? more like differences or different definitions) ... in regard to justice. The first texts known to us dealing with the subject matter have come down to us from the ancient Greek philosophers". Again, just on the go. I don't see the picture you're referring to. “Sprawiedliwa jednostka wzorowana jest na sprawiedliwym polis. Na podobieństwo miasta-państwa dusza posiada trzy części – rozumną, popędliwą i pożądliwą.”

“A just individual is based on (is a reflection of?) a just polis. By analogy with a city state, the soul posses three parts – the rational part, the desirous part and the ummm… driven (?) part”.

It makes sense in Polish, just hard to think of appropriate English words that capture it off the of the top of my head. Ok, so that’s not it.

At the top it says it’s an excerpt.

“W celu precyzyjnego określenia tematu niniejszej książki pomocne będzie rozpoczęcie naszych rozważań od wprowadzenia kilku rozróżnień dotyczących sprawiedliwości. Pierwsze znane nam teksty odnoszące się do tego zagadnienia przekazane nam zostały przez starożytnych filozofów greckich.”

“In order to precisely outline the subject matter of this book, it will be useful to begin our considerations by introducing several … different themes (??? more like differences or different definitions) … in regard to justice. The first texts known to us dealing with the subject matter have come down to us from the ancient Greek philosophers”.

Again, just on the go.

I don’t see the picture you’re referring to.

]]> By: aaron http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213824 aaron Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:11:13 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213824 Polish has pretty stern declension, but Harry is lucky because his name ends with a y it gets an adjectival ending. Deconstructing Harry by Woody Allen came out while I was in poland and was translated as Przejrzec Harry-ego. So I think I am on firm ground saying Harry in the Accusative and Genitive will get the same treatment Harry's book then is Ksiazka Harry-ego (Hair-ee-ay-go). That is pretty cool. Brighouse is harder though because of the e ending. I imagine, it will probably Brighouse-a. Polish has pretty stern declension, but Harry is lucky because his name ends with a y it gets an adjectival ending. Deconstructing Harry by Woody Allen came out while I was in poland and was translated as Przejrzec Harry-ego. So I think I am on firm ground saying Harry in the Accusative and Genitive will get the same treatment Harry’s book then is Ksiazka Harry-ego (Hair-ee-ay-go). That is pretty cool. Brighouse is harder though because of the e ending. I imagine, it will probably Brighouse-a.

]]> By: Patricia Pawlak http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213823 Patricia Pawlak Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:05:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213823 The subtitle in red states it is an excerpt. I can't otherwise compare the original text to that one printed on the polish site. The tiny print on the image of the cover does seem to carry the name of Zygmunt Bauman but all else is illegible. I'll be happy to translate if you can get a hold of anything readable. The subtitle in red states it is an excerpt. I can’t otherwise compare the original text to that one printed on the polish site. The tiny print on the image of the cover does seem to carry the name of Zygmunt Bauman but all else is illegible. I’ll be happy to translate if you can get a hold of anything readable.

]]> By: Cryptic Ned http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213822 Cryptic Ned Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:00:21 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213822 You should try to get it published in a country with stern declension rules for all nouns including people's names. In Lithuania for example your name could be turned into "Haris Brighausas". You should try to get it published in a country with stern declension rules for all nouns including people’s names. In Lithuania for example your name could be turned into “Haris Brighausas”.

]]> By: Scott McLemee http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213821 Scott McLemee Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:41:54 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213821 Didn't Bauman write a couple of volumes in the same series? Maybe he saw yours and became enthusiastic. Seems like he reads everything, so it's possible. Didn’t Bauman write a couple of volumes in the same series?

Maybe he saw yours and became enthusiastic. Seems like he reads everything, so it’s possible.

]]> By: aaron http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-213819 aaron Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:06:20 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/10/15/sprawiedliwosc-now-available/#comment-213819 Hey, fragment ksiazki means piece of the book, so yeah its a fragment. A chapter entitled "The Just Unit," (Sorry I don't know your book so perhaps you have an idea what it means). I cannot decipher the Bauman quote because it is too small on my computer, but if you can give me a approximate guess of letters I might be able to. Congratulations. Polish is a cool language. Hey, fragment ksiazki means piece of the book, so yeah its a fragment. A chapter entitled “The Just Unit,” (Sorry I don’t know your book so perhaps you have an idea what it means). I cannot decipher the Bauman quote because it is too small on my computer, but if you can give me a approximate guess of letters I might be able to. Congratulations. Polish is a cool language.

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