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		<title>By: thompsaj</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217517</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or my all time favorite: &quot;you can&#039;t just throw money at the problem&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>or my all time favorite: &#8220;you can&#8217;t just throw money at the problem&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: thompsaj</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217516</link>
		<dc:creator>thompsaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Josh R. In SC, for example, the climate is such that if the federal DOE went away, there would be a huge constituency for creating some voucher system followed by yet another round of shifting tax burdens away from property taxes. It would NOT be viewed as a chance to spend that money on the schools more effectively. The schools, especially the rural schools, are in such bad shape that I could see a bunch of people asking &quot;well how bad do you need to take Chemistry anyway?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with Josh R. In SC, for example, the climate is such that if the federal <span class="caps">DOE</span> went away, there would be a huge constituency for creating some voucher system followed by yet another round of shifting tax burdens away from property taxes. It would <span class="caps">NOT</span> be viewed as a chance to spend that money on the schools more effectively. The schools, especially the rural schools, are in such bad shape that I could see a bunch of people asking &#8220;well how bad do you need to take Chemistry anyway?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Holmes</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217353</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Have we reason to think that that is a valild fear for today’s political climate in those states?&lt;/i&gt;

Not fear, but hope.  And no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Have we reason to think that that is a valild fear for today&#8217;s political climate in those states?</i></p>

	<p>Not fear, but hope.  And no.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh R.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217311</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #37: 

While a good start at a rebuke, your post ultimately fails. The political environment, and educational policies, of the state capitals of those states may not have led to the abolition of public schooling in 1980 or so, but what about today? Have we reason to think that that is a valild fear for today&#039;s political climate in those states?

It might not be, I&#039;m no expert on any of them, but it&#039;s at least possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re #37:</p>

	<p>While a good start at a rebuke, your post ultimately fails. The political environment, and educational policies, of the state capitals of those states may not have led to the abolition of public schooling in 1980 or so, but what about today? Have we reason to think that that is a valild fear for today&#8217;s political climate in those states?</p>

	<p>It might not be, I&#8217;m no expert on any of them, but it&#8217;s at least possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobcat</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, according to opensecrets.org, Dodd has raised $13.6 million, Paul $8.3 million, Kucinich $1.8, and Gravel $207,000. 

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>However, according to opensecrets.org, Dodd has raised $13.6 million, Paul $8.3 million, Kucinich $1.8, and Gravel $207,000.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobcat</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217299</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to include the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_for_the_2008_presidential_election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Forgot to include the link:</p>

	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_for_the_2008_presidential_election" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_for_the_2008_presidential_election</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobcat</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217298</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In comment 34 goatchowder wrote, &quot;Among Democrats, we have Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel, as anti-war candidates, and I’d bet their fundraising success is similar to Paul’s or exceeds it.&quot;

You mean Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel put together? Or individually? According to wikipedia, Paul has raised $7.5 million in the 3rd quarter of 2007, as compared to Gravel&#039;s $131,000, Kucinich&#039;s $1 million, and Dodd&#039;s $1.5 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In comment 34 goatchowder wrote, &#8220;Among Democrats, we have Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel, as anti-war candidates, and I&#8217;d bet their fundraising success is similar to Paul&#8217;s or exceeds it.&#8221;</p>

	<p>You mean Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel put together? Or individually? According to wikipedia, Paul has raised $7.5 million in the 3rd quarter of 2007, as compared to Gravel&#8217;s $131,000, Kucinich&#8217;s $1 million, and Dodd&#8217;s $1.5 million.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Holmes</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217267</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If left to state level decisions, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas and South Carolina would do away with public schools altogether…&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, which is why there was no public school system in those states until the creation of the Department of Education in 1980.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If left to state level decisions, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas and South Carolina would do away with public schools altogether&#8230;</i></p>

	<p>Of course, which is why there was no public school system in those states until the creation of the Department of Education in 1980.</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217265</link>
		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg, thanks for commenting. I&#039;m enjoying your book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Greg, thanks for commenting. I&#8217;m enjoying your book.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Bellmore</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217262</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Bellmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I love Brett’s (and many conservatives’) idea that limiting money in politics is tantamount to a Stalinist crushing of political freedom.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You can love it all you like, but there&#039;s still going to be more truth to it than you want to admit: Whatever fond hopes the campaign &#039;reformers&#039; may have of pruning public discourse into some beautiful topiary, the only purpose the incumbent politicians actually crafting the laws have is making life harder on challengers and pesky critics.

They&#039;re not regulating money. They&#039;re using money as a handle to regulate &lt;i&gt;speech&lt;/i&gt;. And they&#039;re doing it because they don&#039;t LIKE the speech. 

What&#039;s so hard to understand about this? Regulation by incumbent officeholders of the efforts by people to oust them from office is a conflict of interest so stark, so all consuming, that there is simply nothing to be gained from it that&#039;s worth the risk.

Even if you could rightly call a 100% probability a &quot;risk&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;I love Brett&#8217;s (and many conservatives&#8217;) idea that limiting money in politics is tantamount to a Stalinist crushing of political freedom.&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>You can love it all you like, but there&#8217;s still going to be more truth to it than you want to admit: Whatever fond hopes the campaign &#8216;reformers&#8217; may have of pruning public discourse into some beautiful topiary, the only purpose the incumbent politicians actually crafting the laws have is making life harder on challengers and pesky critics.</p>

	<p>They&#8217;re not regulating money. They&#8217;re using money as a handle to regulate <i>speech</i>. And they&#8217;re doing it because they don&#8217;t <span class="caps">LIKE</span> the speech.</p>

	<p>What&#8217;s so hard to understand about this? Regulation by incumbent officeholders of the efforts by people to oust them from office is a conflict of interest so stark, so all consuming, that there is simply nothing to be gained from it that&#8217;s worth the risk.</p>

	<p>Even if you could rightly call a 100% probability a &#8220;risk&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: goatchowder</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217250</link>
		<dc:creator>goatchowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is anyone wondering how Ron Paul was able to raise that money so quickly?

He is the ONLY Republican who is anti-war. He&#039;s stridently, militantly anti-war.

Among Democrats, we have Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel, as anti-war candidates, and I&#039;d bet their fundraising success is similar to Paul&#039;s or exceeds it.

Paul is running a single-issue campaign. Giuliani keeps saying &quot;9/11, 9/11&quot; all the time, and Paul keeps saying &quot;Get out of Iraq&quot; all the time. Most people don&#039;t agree with Paul&#039;s radical destroy-the-government policies, so he&#039;s focussing on the anti-war aspect, and getting lots of support that way. Smart guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why is anyone wondering how Ron Paul was able to raise that money so quickly?</p>

	<p>He is the <span class="caps">ONLY </span>Republican who is anti-war. He&#8217;s stridently, militantly anti-war.</p>

	<p>Among Democrats, we have Kucinich, Dodd, and Gravel, as anti-war candidates, and I&#8217;d bet their fundraising success is similar to Paul&#8217;s or exceeds it.</p>

	<p>Paul is running a single-issue campaign. Giuliani keeps saying &#8220;9/11, 9/11&#8221; all the time, and Paul keeps saying &#8220;Get out of Iraq&#8221; all the time. Most people don&#8217;t agree with Paul&#8217;s radical destroy-the-government policies, so he&#8217;s focussing on the anti-war aspect, and getting lots of support that way. Smart guy.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217245</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, mq answered it already. Sorry, I missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, mq answered it already. Sorry, I missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217244</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If left to state level decisions, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas and South Carolina would do away with public schools altogether...&lt;/i&gt;

I highly doubt it. Not just the excerpt above, but your whole comment. 

But suppose (for the sake of argument) they do do away with public schools altogether - isn&#039;t that what democracy is all about? If they want different kind of schools (like, say, the Amish), why shouldn&#039;t they be able to have them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If left to state level decisions, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas and South Carolina would do away with public schools altogether&#8230;</i></p>

	<p>I highly doubt it. Not just the excerpt above, but your whole comment.</p>

	<p>But suppose (for the sake of argument) they do do away with public schools altogether &#8211; isn&#8217;t that what democracy is all about? If they want different kind of schools (like, say, the Amish), why shouldn&#8217;t they be able to have them?</p>
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		<title>By: mpowell</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217242</link>
		<dc:creator>mpowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day a Republican is willing to claim these two requests are &#039;equivalent&#039;:

&quot;Stop hitting me&quot;
&quot;Stop defending yourself&quot;

As long as the Republican is the aggressor.  This is how Republicans view politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At the end of the day a Republican is willing to claim these two requests are &#8216;equivalent&#8217;:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Stop hitting me&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Stop defending yourself&#8221;</p>

	<p>As long as the Republican is the aggressor.  This is how Republicans view politics.</p>
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		<title>By: mq</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/07/overstate/comment-page-1/#comment-217241</link>
		<dc:creator>mq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27: why shouldn&#039;t state governments get to decide democratically if they want to do something crazy?

The strong Federal system probably lowers the number of crazy experiments, but it makes all of us victim to them with no choice but to leave the country when they do happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>27: why shouldn&#8217;t state governments get to decide democratically if they want to do something crazy?</p>

	<p>The strong Federal system probably lowers the number of crazy experiments, but it makes all of us victim to them with no choice but to leave the country when they do happen.</p>
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