Comments on: While Europe slept…..

By: Jacob Christensen

Jacob Christensen — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:05 +0000

It is always dangerous to comment a book I wouldn't read voluntary but I think that Karen Jespersen and Ralf Pittelkow's latest opus "Islamister og naivister" would count as a Danish case of the Eurabia/Islamofascism literature. (Oh, and by the way Karen Jespersen is the minister for social affairs.)

By: Keven

Keven — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:24:01 +0000

And there was me thinking that Simon Kuper only wrote about football. I should read more.

“reading Londonistan feels like being imprisoned with a never-ending Mail editorial.”

Oh my God, that sounds like hell on Earth

By: abb1

abb1 — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:41:04 +0000

If English was good enough for Jesus, why would you need any other language?

By: Barry

Barry — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:37:38 +0000

des, remember that speaking more than one language (guess which one) is considered suspicious by wingnuts.

By: des von bladet

des von bladet — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:33:37 +0000

I merely wish to remark that I for one am decadent and perfidious enough to satisfy even the most demanding American taste. Can I gets me some wingnut welfare now, puh-lease?

I speak two and a half dialects of Belgian, if that helps.

By: Mrs Tilton

Mrs Tilton — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:02:34 +0000

gr,

oh yeah, I forgot that we are all wearing special hats and paying a tax to our Muslim masters now. And my 7 year old was just taken away to become a janissary! I tell you, helping the Caliph subjugate the American dogs is the only solace left to us over here.

By: gr

gr — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:12:58 +0000

mrs tilton, true enough, there’s certainly a lot of anti-Islamic xenophobia in Europe, and you’re right that it’s related to an underlying anti-pluralist attitude. However, I have yet to meet a European (xenophobe or not) who believes that cowardly and defeatist Europe has taken a decision to accept the status of ‘dhimmitude’. Neither have I come across any European who believes that there’s a secret alliance between the EU and The Caliphate to destroy the US and Israel. At least in some of its more conspiratorial versions, the Eurabia thesis seems to appeal to a peculiarly American form of paranoia, which is in turn rooted in stereotypes of European decadence and perfidy.

By: nu

nu — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:51:23 +0000

The 2002 success was a percentage one, in terms of votes, LePen gain was minimal.

But yeah, the LePen crowd’s antisemitism makes their islamophobia different from the US one.
And also as I’ve hinted by mentionning De Villiers, pro-catholic islamophobia wouldn’t work either.
It’s really some sort of secular, nationalist, proto-fascist and more obviously racist eurabia-phobia there.

By: Mrs Tilton

Mrs Tilton — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:40:05 +0000

gr,

don’t forget, though, that “Eurabia” is also gratifyingly scary to Europeans who hate/fear pluralism and liberal democracy.

By: gr

gr — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:20:28 +0000

The true attraction of the Eurabia thesis is that it caters both to anti-Muslim and to Anti-European prejudice. So it’s not too surprising that the view has more adherents in the US than in Europe.

By: Mrs Tilton

Mrs Tilton — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:44:30 +0000

jp@ 7,

yes, well, to give Hitler his due, he did disapprove of pork and alcohol.

By: roger

roger — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:38:36 +0000

Ah, I went through the fever swamp blogs this morning, looking for lunacy about the Eurabian menace, and discovered that the new menace is Belgium. Who knew? The immanent break up of Belgium will create a small, mostly arabic state in Europe, which will, of course, immediately make shari’a law and have to be bombed back into the stone age.

These guys are so funny! To bad their kind is pretty much the dominate strain in the White House. Cheney should be asked about Eurabia – I’m sure he’d throw some kind words out to the dittoheads who believe it.

In the meantime, remember – the sharia state of post-breakup Belgium will possess nukular weapons!

By: bi

bi — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:19:59 +0000

JP Stormcrow:

We are not at war with Nazis. Isn’t it obvious? We are ~~not at war with~~ Nazis.

By: abb1

abb1 — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:36:31 +0000

Le Pen got 18% in 2002, not too shabby. Well, come to think of it, Melanie-Phillips-specific strain of Eurabia-phobia probably doesn’t appeal much to the Le Pen crowd. For the obvious reason: as far as they are concerned, Melanie herself is just as undesirable as any other lazy, unscrupulous and cunning Semite out there.

By: Bruce Webb

Bruce Webb — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:21:47 +0000

@7 Wow. If it hadn’t been for Charles the Hammer it would have been “Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Kaliph”? Who knew?