Comments on: Faw Down and Go Clang the Seven Soldiers of Victory Way! http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 27 May 2012 06:52:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Paul Currion http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218408 Paul Currion Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:49:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218408 I have to admit that I was disappointed with Seven Soldiers by the time I came to the end of Issue 1 (which is, of course, the final issue). It was about a hundred times more interesting than anything else on the shelves at the time, and a couple of the miniseries were flat out brilliant (Klarion being the obvious one). However it failed singularly to do what Morrison had explicitly proposed it would do. The various strands were either too separated from the main narrative to weave back properly at the end, or too tied into the main narrative to stand as satisfying stories on their own. At least it failed because it was too ambitious though... I have to admit that I was disappointed with Seven Soldiers by the time I came to the end of Issue 1 (which is, of course, the final issue). It was about a hundred times more interesting than anything else on the shelves at the time, and a couple of the miniseries were flat out brilliant (Klarion being the obvious one).

However it failed singularly to do what Morrison had explicitly proposed it would do. The various strands were either too separated from the main narrative to weave back properly at the end, or too tied into the main narrative to stand as satisfying stories on their own. At least it failed because it was too ambitious though…

]]> By: hilker http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218240 hilker Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:50:52 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218240 Worth noting that the prelude to Morrison's SSOV involving Qwewq/Neh-Buh-Loh is now available in a trade paperback, <i>JLA: Ultramarine Corps</i>. Worth noting that the prelude to Morrison’s SSOV involving Qwewq/Neh-Buh-Loh is now available in a trade paperback, JLA: Ultramarine Corps.

]]> By: ajay http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218200 ajay Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:49:49 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218200 And the surrealism of the Dummy is actually brilliant. It's sort of "who is Keyser Soze?" avant la lettre. And the surrealism of the Dummy is actually brilliant. It’s sort of “who is Keyser Soze?” avant la lettre.

]]> By: Wrye http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218177 Wrye Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:05:58 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218177 My understanding is that Morrison's finale was forced to be significantly shorter in terms of page count than he had originally planned, so I think that blunted his ability to pull everything together in a satisfying way. I can't remember the original source for the info, though. Intertrons? any ideas? My understanding is that Morrison’s finale was forced to be significantly shorter in terms of page count than he had originally planned, so I think that blunted his ability to pull everything together in a satisfying way. I can’t remember the original source for the info, though. Intertrons? any ideas?

]]> By: Doug M. http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218174 Doug M. Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:47:58 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218174 I've read most of the Morrison SSOVs, though not the end-cap. Klarion: F&$k yeah. That four-issue miniseries contained, what, nine different moments of awesome? "...cake made of light..." "I'm modernizing. You'd look great in a bikini." But, you know? Although it's seriously, seriously flawed, I still thing _Mr. Miracle_ was the best series of the seven. Okay, you have to know the Kirby Fourth World mythos. But come on: at the end, Shiloh is eating an /Easter Sundae/. More comics blogging, please. Doug M. I’ve read most of the Morrison SSOVs, though not the end-cap.

Klarion: F&$k yeah. That four-issue miniseries contained, what, nine different moments of awesome?

“…cake made of light…”

“I’m modernizing. You’d look great in a bikini.”

But, you know? Although it’s seriously, seriously flawed, I still thing Mr. Miracle was the best series of the seven.

Okay, you have to know the Kirby Fourth World mythos. But come on: at the end, Shiloh is eating an /Easter Sundae/.

More comics blogging, please.

Doug M.

]]> By: Timothy Burke http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218171 Timothy Burke Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:31:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218171 Let's put it this way: if Seven Soldiers of Victory was tough, get ready for interpretative agonies while reading Alan Moore's Black Dossier. Let’s put it this way: if Seven Soldiers of Victory was tough, get ready for interpretative agonies while reading Alan Moore’s Black Dossier.

]]> By: Flippanter http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218164 Flippanter Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:36:01 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218164 <i>SSofV</i> seemed like a case of imaginative, clever character invention outrunning the works' putative themes. SSofV seemed like a case of imaginative, clever character invention outrunning the works’ putative themes.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218163 Seth Finkelstein Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:56:32 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218163 If you can have "Captain American", why not "Captain Nazi"? (though I think he would probably call himself "Fuhrer Reich" or "The Aryan" or something like that). If you can have “Captain American”, why not “Captain Nazi”? (though I think he would probably call himself “Fuhrer Reich” or “The Aryan” or something like that).

]]> By: Rich B. http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218161 Rich B. Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:58:00 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218161 <i>You can download Captain Marvel, Jr. fighting his archenemy: Captain Nazi!</i> You laugh, but Captain Nazi completely took down Wonder Woman in her comic book yesterday. It wasn't even close. Apparently, he's trying to take over Canada now. You can download Captain Marvel, Jr. fighting his archenemy: Captain Nazi!

You laugh, but Captain Nazi completely took down Wonder Woman in her comic book yesterday. It wasn’t even close. Apparently, he’s trying to take over Canada now.

]]> By: Will http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218159 Will Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:34:29 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218159 Klarion The Witch Boy is a Jack Kirby Kreation. He's a foe of The Demon one of JK's characters he credted for DC Comics in the 1970s. Apparently Klarion is still a little shit. Klarion The Witch Boy is a Jack Kirby Kreation. He’s a foe of The Demon one of JK’s characters he credted for DC Comics in the 1970s. Apparently Klarion is still a little shit.

]]> By: ed bowlinger http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218157 ed bowlinger Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:16:58 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218157 I just finished working my way through the trades of the Morrison SSV, and I have to admit that I was completely baffled by the ending. It didn't make a lick of sense to me. I feel a certain amount of shame in being 30 years old and unable to figure out a comic book. Visiting Wikipedia and looking there for illumination would only redouble my misery. I just finished working my way through the trades of the Morrison SSV, and I have to admit that I was completely baffled by the ending. It didn’t make a lick of sense to me. I feel a certain amount of shame in being 30 years old and unable to figure out a comic book. Visiting Wikipedia and looking there for illumination would only redouble my misery.

]]> By: fardels bear http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/comment-page-1/#comment-218156 fardels bear Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:33:49 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/15/faw-down-and-go-clang-the-seven-soldiers-of-victory-way/#comment-218156 If you go here: http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/ You can download Captain Marvel, Jr. fighting his archenemy: Captain Nazi! If you go here:

http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/

You can download Captain Marvel, Jr. fighting his archenemy: Captain Nazi!

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