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		<title>By: tps12</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219304</link>
		<dc:creator>tps12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing worse than computers is talking banner ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The only thing worse than computers is talking banner ads.</p>
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		<title>By: cbisquit</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219259</link>
		<dc:creator>cbisquit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ad was running for 2 days on engadget and had the horrible effect of launching into some recursive start-loop mode whenever it was put into a tab other than the immediate foreground in firefox, internet explorer, OR safari.
 It blared audio feedback without permission and brought machines with 4 gigs of ram to a screeching halt, making it the most pervasively broken piece of code I&#039;ve ever seen on a major commercial web site. It single-handedly convinced me to change my stance on ad blocking software on ad-supported sites. I&#039;d recommend everyone who uses firefox to go get the extension now at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
Oh yeah, and go Apple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That ad was running for 2 days on engadget and had the horrible effect of launching into some recursive start-loop mode whenever it was put into a tab other than the immediate foreground in firefox, internet explorer, OR safari.<br />
It blared audio feedback without permission and brought machines with 4 gigs of ram to a screeching halt, making it the most pervasively broken piece of code I&#8217;ve ever seen on a major commercial web site. It single-handedly convinced me to change my stance on ad blocking software on ad-supported sites. I&#8217;d recommend everyone who uses firefox to go get the extension now at <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865</a><br />
Oh yeah, and go Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Vista &#187; Comment on Appalling Vista by joel turnipseed</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219098</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Vista &#187; Comment on Appalling Vista by joel turnipseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ruth.morton wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptvasi: but does Wubi work when running WinXP Pro on Parallels? Just kidding. Sort of. Switched back to Mac this past summer and it’s great. Except for the part about half my brain being removed due to my inability to figure out the OSX &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] ruth.morton wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptvasi: but does Wubi work when running WinXP Pro on Parallels? Just kidding. Sort of. Switched back to Mac this past summer and it&#8217;s great. Except for the part about half my brain being removed due to my inability to figure out the <span class="caps">OSX </span>&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joel turnipseed</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219089</link>
		<dc:creator>joel turnipseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vasi: but does Wubi work when running WinXP Pro on Parallels?

Just kidding. Sort of. Switched back to Mac this past summer and it&#039;s great. Except for the part about half my brain being removed due to my inability to figure out the OSX interface conventions after a ten year absence (just learned how to save to subfolders tonight).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>vasi: but does Wubi work when running WinXP Pro on Parallels?</p>

	<p>Just kidding. Sort of. Switched back to Mac this past summer and it&#8217;s great. Except for the part about half my brain being removed due to my inability to figure out the <span class="caps">OSX</span> interface conventions after a ten year absence (just learned how to save to subfolders tonight).</p>
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		<title>By: vasi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219076</link>
		<dc:creator>vasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lemuel, mattf:

Another great option is &lt;a href=&quot;http://wubi-installer.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wubi&lt;/a&gt;. It lets you install Ubuntu Linux as a file on your Windows partition--if you decide you don&#039;t like it, just delete the file and everything&#039;s back the way it was before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>lemuel, mattf:</p>

	<p>Another great option is <a href="http://wubi-installer.org/" rel="nofollow">Wubi</a>. It lets you install Ubuntu Linux as a file on your Windows partition&#8212;if you decide you don&#8217;t like it, just delete the file and everything&#8217;s back the way it was before.</p>
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		<title>By: Daverz</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219059</link>
		<dc:creator>Daverz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11-13.  Just install vlc and stop worrying about region codes.  It&#039;s a very capable program and runs on everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#11-13.  Just install vlc and stop worrying about region codes.  It&#8217;s a very capable program and runs on everything.</p>
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		<title>By: MattF</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219050</link>
		<dc:creator>MattF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemuel Pitkin says:
&lt;i&gt;Now I’m thinking maybe I should install Linux. My new job gives me lots more free time I have to fill up somehow!&lt;/i&gt;

My free, unsolicited advice is to set up a VMware server (it&#039;s free) and try out Linux as a virtual machine on your current computer. The free VMs that are available have a pretty wide range of usability and a wide range of sources-- but Linux is kinda like that anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lemuel Pitkin says:<br />
<i>Now I&#8217;m thinking maybe I should install Linux. My new job gives me lots more free time I have to fill up somehow!</i></p>

	<p>My free, unsolicited advice is to set up a VMware server (it&#8217;s free) and try out Linux as a virtual machine on your current computer. The free VMs that are available have a pretty wide range of usability and a wide range of sources&#8212;but Linux is kinda like that anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m thinking  maybe I should install Linux. My new job gives me lots more free time I have to fill up somehow! It&#039;s either that, or become an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unfogged.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unfogged&lt;/a&gt; commenter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Now I&#8217;m thinking  maybe I should install Linux. My new job gives me lots more free time I have to fill up somehow! It&#8217;s either that, or become an <a href="http://www.unfogged.com/" rel="nofollow">Unfogged</a> commenter.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Baugh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demonstration by example, your key to business success! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Demonstration by example, your key to business success! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Thurston</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219024</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By the way, Steve K, as a general thing, advocacy works better when it isn’t structured as “Your choices suck...”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s amazingly condescending advice you give there, Bruce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>By the way, Steve K, as a general thing, advocacy works better when it isn&#8217;t structured as &#8220;Your choices suck&#8230;&#8221;</blockquote><br />
That&#8217;s amazingly condescending advice you give there, Bruce.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Baugh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219008</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Steve K, as a general thing, advocacy works better when it isn&#039;t structured as &quot;Your choices suck and you are an immoral tool of villains, but if you please me, enlightened I might save you.&quot; Which is how you&#039;re coming across. There is an audience for abuse as a recruiting tool, but that would be if you&#039;re trying to pitch Linux to fundamentalists or Log Cabin Republicans. Wrong rhetorical stance here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>By the way, Steve K, as a general thing, advocacy works better when it isn&#8217;t structured as &#8220;Your choices suck and you are an immoral tool of villains, but if you please me, enlightened I might save you.&#8221; Which is how you&#8217;re coming across. There is an audience for abuse as a recruiting tool, but that would be if you&#8217;re trying to pitch Linux to fundamentalists or Log Cabin Republicans. Wrong rhetorical stance here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Baugh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219007</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve K: &lt;i&gt;When a piece of software on my computer doesn’t work it feels sad (not merely frustrating), like my software community is a little dysfunctional. Can you say that when your Windows or Mac doesn’t work? &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t actually want to. I have a severe case of depression and have too many problems with routine life making me feel sad. My computer is a tool, and what I care about is that it work like the tools I use in the kitchen and elsewhere in my home, to help me do the things I want to do comfortably and without hassle. I&#039;m a Mac user because Apple hardware and operating system and OSX software do that best for me; friends of mine use different hardware and software as suits them. 

As a young man I put a lot more time into my computers more or less as ends in themselves, tinkering with the hardware, tuning the OS and apps, the whole deal. If I were 21 again I&#039;d likely be a fairly hardcore Linux user now. But I&#039;m 42, and computers aren&#039;t my job. I can compile kernels; I just don&#039;t want to. I can set up monitors for nightly updates and patch or recompile programs; I just don&#039;t want to. I like that my computer lets me put more time into the things that I&#039;m actually interested in, in ways that match my physical needs (adjustments to compensate for optic nerve damage, for instance; OSX is way ahead on handicapped accessibility issues, or rather for my issues, just as Windows is the best place for speech recognition for individual users) and my aesthetics.

If I found myself treating my computer as an object of any more intense or more complicated emotions than the appreciation I feel for all well-designed tools, I would promptly ditch it and go find a different computer that didn&#039;t do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steve K: <i>When a piece of software on my computer doesn&#8217;t work it feels sad (not merely frustrating), like my software community is a little dysfunctional. Can you say that when your Windows or Mac doesn&#8217;t work? </i></p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t actually want to. I have a severe case of depression and have too many problems with routine life making me feel sad. My computer is a tool, and what I care about is that it work like the tools I use in the kitchen and elsewhere in my home, to help me do the things I want to do comfortably and without hassle. I&#8217;m a Mac user because Apple hardware and operating system and <span class="caps">OSX</span> software do that best for me; friends of mine use different hardware and software as suits them.</p>

	<p>As a young man I put a lot more time into my computers more or less as ends in themselves, tinkering with the hardware, tuning the OS and apps, the whole deal. If I were 21 again I&#8217;d likely be a fairly hardcore Linux user now. But I&#8217;m 42, and computers aren&#8217;t my job. I can compile kernels; I just don&#8217;t want to. I can set up monitors for nightly updates and patch or recompile programs; I just don&#8217;t want to. I like that my computer lets me put more time into the things that I&#8217;m actually interested in, in ways that match my physical needs (adjustments to compensate for optic nerve damage, for instance; <span class="caps">OSX</span> is way ahead on handicapped accessibility issues, or rather for my issues, just as Windows is the best place for speech recognition for individual users) and my aesthetics.</p>

	<p>If I found myself treating my computer as an object of any more intense or more complicated emotions than the appreciation I feel for all well-designed tools, I would promptly ditch it and go find a different computer that didn&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Wax Banks</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-219003</link>
		<dc:creator>Wax Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It looks to me like a region dedicated to universal values like truth, beauty, freedom, and cooperation, values that transcend petty local concerns like a particular corporation’s bottom line.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Less wine next Thanksgiving, friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>It looks to me like a region dedicated to universal values like truth, beauty, freedom, and cooperation, values that transcend petty local concerns like a particular corporation&#8217;s bottom line.</blockquote></p>

	<p>Less wine next Thanksgiving, friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-218974</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes SG, it is a pretty old laptop.  I bought it used.  I&#039;m poor.

Ben, I had that region menu pop up once when I was using a Mac, and it didn&#039;t let me select the region code I wanted: Region 0.  I don&#039;t think selecting Region 0 is immoral.  It looks to me like a region dedicated to universal values like truth, beauty, freedom, and cooperation, values that transcend petty local concerns like a particular corporation&#039;s bottom line. I think a more interesting question than the morality of Region 0 is whether it wrong to give your money to the enemies of Region 0, to what Ben Bagdikian calls &quot;the Media Monopoly&quot;?  The answer to that question should be clear by now: at no point in time should you give any more of your money to the Media Monopoly.  They take it and pollute the public sphere w/ sensationalistic trash like Paris Hilton and Dick Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes SG, it is a pretty old laptop.  I bought it used.  I&#8217;m poor.</p>

	<p>Ben, I had that region menu pop up once when I was using a Mac, and it didn&#8217;t let me select the region code I wanted: Region 0.  I don&#8217;t think selecting Region 0 is immoral.  It looks to me like a region dedicated to universal values like truth, beauty, freedom, and cooperation, values that transcend petty local concerns like a particular corporation&#8217;s bottom line. I think a more interesting question than the morality of Region 0 is whether it wrong to give your money to the enemies of Region 0, to what Ben Bagdikian calls &#8220;the Media Monopoly&#8221;?  The answer to that question should be clear by now: at no point in time should you give any more of your money to the Media Monopoly.  They take it and pollute the public sphere w/ sensationalistic trash like Paris Hilton and Dick Cheney.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/22/appalling-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-218967</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not if you move to another country, so that when you buy a region-coded machine in that country the company you have bought it from have essentially robbed you of your entire DVD collection. Then they&#039;re wrong, not you. I have it on good authority that this is why bittorrent was invented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>not if you move to another country, so that when you buy a region-coded machine in that country the company you have bought it from have essentially robbed you of your entire <span class="caps">DVD</span> collection. Then they&#8217;re wrong, not you. I have it on good authority that this is why bittorrent was invented.</p>
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