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		<title>By: mmy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-220057</link>
		<dc:creator>mmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question for someone who has actually used the new iLiad -- can you write comments on .pdfs and save the .pdfs with the comments on them?

(sigh, seriously thinking about buying one of these readers -- I grade using a tablet pc which is seriously heavy -- but I absolutely love the ability to write comments on the papers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>question for someone who has actually used the new iLiad&#8212;can you write comments on .pdfs and save the .pdfs with the comments on them?</p>

	<p>(sigh, seriously thinking about buying one of these readers&#8212;I grade using a tablet pc which is seriously heavy&#8212;but I absolutely love the ability to write comments on the papers)</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219841</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s interesting about the borked linux - I had just assumed that the shorter battery life was b/c it required power to run the grid that allows the stylus to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>that&#8217;s interesting about the borked linux &#8211; I had just assumed that the shorter battery life was b/c it required power to run the grid that allows the stylus to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Elio M. García, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219836</link>
		<dc:creator>Elio M. García, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hanlin v8 allows notetaking, I believe. No PDF though. On the other hand, the forthcoming v9, in the v9t model, will have a touch screen and PDF support. Price not yet determined, but I suspect it will be at least a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the iRex. More info at the maker&#039;s website, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jinke.com.cn/Compagesql/English/embedpro/v8detail.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Hanlin v8 allows notetaking, I believe. No <span class="caps">PDF</span> though. On the other hand, the forthcoming v9, in the v9t model, will have a touch screen and <span class="caps">PDF</span> support. Price not yet determined, but I suspect it will be at least a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the iRex. More info at the maker&#8217;s website, <a href="http://www.jinke.com.cn/Compagesql/English/embedpro/v8detail.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Stross</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219667</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Stross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a Sony PRS-505 (the new reader). The hardware is lovely; 800x600 epaper screen (much faster than the older PRS-500), 200Mb of on-board storage plus an SD card slot and a Memory Stick slot (good for 2Gb and 8Gb respectively). In addition to Sony&#039;s own BBeB ebooks, it can read RTF and PDF -- however, PDF magnification isn&#039;t terribly good. (A firmware upgrade is allegedly due in a couple of months, including support for Adobe&#039;s new ebook format.) 

On the down side relative to the iRex Iliad, there&#039;s no way of making annotations. On the up side, the battery life is staggering -- I&#039;ve just read one and a half novels (call it 500 minutes at my sluggardly reading speed) and there&#039;s no noticeable battery drain from full. It charges off mini-USB and presents itself as a USB mass storage device when plugged into a computer; the open source LibPRS-500 package makes it useful for Mac and Linux users as well as Windows users (who also get Sony&#039;s not-terribly-attractive walled garden ebook store application, which has all the worst traits of iTunes without the good bits).

I wouldn&#039;t recommend the PRS-505 for an academic, but for someone who likes to read novels? It&#039;s great. I&#039;ve used a metric shitload of PDAs and smartphones, and the Nokia web tablets (770 and N800), and I think the PRS-505 is winning over the whole lot of them (including the N800). The range of light levels it&#039;s readable in is especially good -- backlit LCDs are basically useless in daylight. If I wanted to annotate texts it would be less than useful, but for carrying around a couple of dozen novels? It&#039;s great.

As a side note, talking to a Linux developer, iRex appear to have borked the hardware design of the Illiad at a fundamental level by opting to have the kernel poll the hardware buttons. This prevents it from sleeping, which is why the Illiad has the 14-hour battery life rather than running for several thousand page-turns, like the Sony devices.

My inkling is that the software on the Bookeen Cybook 3 may be somewhat superior (it can cope with Mobipocket files, and others), but it too lacks the annotation capabilities. So among the current crop of epaper devices, if you want annotation, you need the Kindle or Illiad, if you want to read novels the Cybook or Sony Reader will do the trick ... and for maximum flexibility, nothing beats a tablet PC (yet). Although my experience of using a tablet PC as an ebook reader was not good, given that I get wrist ache holding a hardcover for any length of time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve got a Sony <span class="caps">PRS</span>-505 (the new reader). The hardware is lovely; 800&#215;600 epaper screen (much faster than the older <span class="caps">PRS</span>-500), 200Mb of on-board storage plus an SD card slot and a Memory Stick slot (good for 2Gb and 8Gb respectively). In addition to Sony&#8217;s own BBeB ebooks, it can read <span class="caps">RTF</span> and <span class="caps">PDF </span>&#8212;however, <span class="caps">PDF</span> magnification isn&#8217;t terribly good. (A firmware upgrade is allegedly due in a couple of months, including support for Adobe&#8217;s new ebook format.)</p>

	<p>On the down side relative to the iRex Iliad, there&#8217;s no way of making annotations. On the up side, the battery life is staggering&#8212;I&#8217;ve just read one and a half novels (call it 500 minutes at my sluggardly reading speed) and there&#8217;s no noticeable battery drain from full. It charges off mini-USB and presents itself as a <span class="caps">USB</span> mass storage device when plugged into a computer; the open source LibPRS-500 package makes it useful for Mac and Linux users as well as Windows users (who also get Sony&#8217;s not-terribly-attractive walled garden ebook store application, which has all the worst traits of iTunes without the good bits).</p>

	<p>I wouldn&#8217;t recommend the <span class="caps">PRS</span>-505 for an academic, but for someone who likes to read novels? It&#8217;s great. I&#8217;ve used a metric shitload of PDAs and smartphones, and the Nokia web tablets (770 and <span class="caps">N800</span>), and I think the <span class="caps">PRS</span>-505 is winning over the whole lot of them (including the <span class="caps">N800</span>). The range of light levels it&#8217;s readable in is especially good&#8212;backlit LCDs are basically useless in daylight. If I wanted to annotate texts it would be less than useful, but for carrying around a couple of dozen novels? It&#8217;s great.</p>

	<p>As a side note, talking to a Linux developer, iRex appear to have borked the hardware design of the Illiad at a fundamental level by opting to have the kernel poll the hardware buttons. This prevents it from sleeping, which is why the Illiad has the 14-hour battery life rather than running for several thousand page-turns, like the Sony devices.</p>

	<p>My inkling is that the software on the Bookeen Cybook 3 may be somewhat superior (it can cope with Mobipocket files, and others), but it too lacks the annotation capabilities. So among the current crop of epaper devices, if you want annotation, you need the Kindle or Illiad, if you want to read novels the Cybook or Sony Reader will do the trick &#8230; and for maximum flexibility, nothing beats a tablet <span class="caps">PC </span>(yet). Although my experience of using a tablet PC as an ebook reader was not good, given that I get wrist ache holding a hardcover for any length of time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rdb</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219666</link>
		<dc:creator>rdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A4 formatted PDFs are readable - depending on the font, on the Iliad, but at 8&quot; diagonal cf ~14&quot;, they&#039;re small, ~1/2 size, so you need good eyes.
Image PDFs are slow to load, but do work.
The PDF viewer does have a magnify, using the stylus, but I haven&#039;t played enough to have it down pat. This works with PDFs that are essentially images like the bitsaver computer manual scans too, but is slow.
The PDF viewer available from a developer with two column heuristics - which I need to get &amp; try, presents a column at a time, which should make reading journal articles more pleasant.
Opening in landscape mode should be possible too.
Check the forums on the irextechnologies site.

If you&#039;re creating your own content, or have sources for the documents you&#039;re reading, there are instructions for setting up the PDF output for the Iliad. Just how well that will go with tables and figures...
The mobipocket demo excerpt of &quot;Python phrasebook&quot;  
has one table that should have been tuned better.
If Kindle is using mobipocket format, maybe there will be more books available too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A4 formatted PDFs are readable &#8211; depending on the font, on the Iliad, but at 8&#8221; diagonal cf ~14&#8221;, they&#8217;re small, ~1/2 size, so you need good eyes.<br />
Image PDFs are slow to load, but do work.<br />
The <span class="caps">PDF</span> viewer does have a magnify, using the stylus, but I haven&#8217;t played enough to have it down pat. This works with PDFs that are essentially images like the bitsaver computer manual scans too, but is slow.<br />
The <span class="caps">PDF</span> viewer available from a developer with two column heuristics &#8211; which I need to get &#038; try, presents a column at a time, which should make reading journal articles more pleasant.<br />
Opening in landscape mode should be possible too.<br />
Check the forums on the irextechnologies site.</p>

	<p>If you&#8217;re creating your own content, or have sources for the documents you&#8217;re reading, there are instructions for setting up the <span class="caps">PDF</span> output for the Iliad. Just how well that will go with tables and figures&#8230;<br />
The mobipocket demo excerpt of &#8220;Python phrasebook&#8221;<br />
has one table that should have been tuned better.<br />
If Kindle is using mobipocket format, maybe there will be more books available too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Art</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219661</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slocum - there&#039;s some evidence that reading from screen is less effective than paper: http://www.informaworld.com/index/770693565.pdf (though this was for CRTs, not LCDs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>slocum &#8211; there&#8217;s some evidence that reading from screen is less effective than paper: <a href="http://www.informaworld.com/index/770693565.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.informaworld.com/index/770693565.pdf</a> (though this was for CRTs, not LCDs)</p>
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		<title>By: c.l. ball</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219660</link>
		<dc:creator>c.l. ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the review. 

One question: are articles in PDF &lt;em&gt;image&lt;/em&gt; format viewable, readable, legible on the Iliad? 

Some on-line databases, like ProQuest, still store articles that way (i.e., the text-select tool will not work; only the &quot;snapshot tool&quot; in Adobe Reader)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you for the review.</p>

	<p>One question: are articles in <span class="caps">PDF </span><em>image</em> format viewable, readable, legible on the Iliad?</p>

	<p>Some on-line databases, like ProQuest, still store articles that way (i.e., the text-select tool will not work; only the &#8220;snapshot tool&#8221; in Adobe Reader)</p>
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		<title>By: x. trapnel</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219638</link>
		<dc:creator>x. trapnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review.  Perhaps these considerations can help out others:

I have the Librie, the first version of the Sony Reader.  The software/interface sucks, because Sony had--and still has--the silly idea of selling to normal readers who want to buy way-overpriced, locked e-books (who won&#039;t want a 300$ device) rather than academics who already have a flood of internet content they merely want to read.  But &lt;a href=&quot;https://libprs500.kovidgoyal.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;independent developers&lt;/a&gt; have made it reasonably usable for html and text-only pdfs.  Still, based on what Henry has said, if you&#039;re the sort of person who would pay $300 for a Sony Reader, you&#039;d probably be better off paying $700 for the iLiad.  There is simply no good way to view full-page pdf images (like JSTOR scans) on the Reader, though there are some awkward workarounds, and these sorts of scanned files are still quite common.  The difference between a 6&quot; 800x600 display and an 8.1&quot; 1024x768 one is just enormous.

Another alternative for academics--especially those who are bothered by the &quot;other device&quot; problem--is to go with a lightweight convertible tablet PC, like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=939&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fujitsu t2010&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a&gt;Thinkpad X61T&lt;/a&gt;.  If you get the X61T high-res screen, for example, you get 144dpi (12.1&quot;, 1400x1050), almost as good as the Reader&#039;s 166.  You&#039;re still looking at a transmissive screen, so there&#039;s more eye-strain over long periods than with e-ink, but a lot of eyestrain is about small blurry fonts and distance, and high-res tablets help with that.  Both of those tablets have good battery life (&gt;6.5 hrs or &gt;5.5, for low-power uses like reading), and are reasonably light (~3.5 / 4.4 lbs).  The tablet-ness also lets you take notes, etc.

I just got a X61T and so far I&#039;m pretty happy with it.  If I&#039;m reading a 100 page pure text article, I&#039;d rather read it on my Librie than the tablet, but the tablet is fine, much much better than any other transmissive screen I&#039;ve ever used.  (As for cost, these aren&#039;t cheap, but if it&#039;s the only computer you use it&#039;s easier to justify.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the review.  Perhaps these considerations can help out others:</p>

	<p>I have the Librie, the first version of the Sony Reader.  The software/interface sucks, because Sony had&#8212;and still has&#8212;the silly idea of selling to normal readers who want to buy way-overpriced, locked e-books (who won&#8217;t want a 300$ device) rather than academics who already have a flood of internet content they merely want to read.  But <a href="https://libprs500.kovidgoyal.net/" rel="nofollow">independent developers</a> have made it reasonably usable for html and text-only pdfs.  Still, based on what Henry has said, if you&#8217;re the sort of person who would pay $300 for a Sony Reader, you&#8217;d probably be better off paying $700 for the iLiad.  There is simply no good way to view full-page pdf images (like <span class="caps">JSTOR</span> scans) on the Reader, though there are some awkward workarounds, and these sorts of scanned files are still quite common.  The difference between a 6&#8221; 800&#215;600 display and an 8.1&#8221; 1024&#215;768 one is just enormous.</p>

	<p>Another alternative for academics&#8212;especially those who are bothered by the &#8220;other device&#8221; problem&#8212;is to go with a lightweight convertible tablet PC, like the <a href="http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=939" rel="nofollow">Fujitsu t2010</a> or <a>Thinkpad <span class="caps">X61T</span></a>.  If you get the <span class="caps">X61T</span> high-res screen, for example, you get 144dpi (12.1&#8221;, 1400&#215;1050), almost as good as the Reader&#8217;s 166.  You&#8217;re still looking at a transmissive screen, so there&#8217;s more eye-strain over long periods than with e-ink, but a lot of eyestrain is about small blurry fonts and distance, and high-res tablets help with that.  Both of those tablets have good battery life (>6.5 hrs or >5.5, for low-power uses like reading), and are reasonably light (~3.5 / 4.4 lbs).  The tablet-ness also lets you take notes, etc.</p>

	<p>I just got a <span class="caps">X61T</span> and so far I&#8217;m pretty happy with it.  If I&#8217;m reading a 100 page pure text article, I&#8217;d rather read it on my Librie than the tablet, but the tablet is fine, much much better than any other transmissive screen I&#8217;ve ever used.  (As for cost, these aren&#8217;t cheap, but if it&#8217;s the only computer you use it&#8217;s easier to justify.)</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219621</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But what will you use to decorate your walls? Undergraduates will no longer quake in their boots when they walk into professors’ offices (“Did she read ALL of those?”) if you replace objects with data.&quot;

Posted by Mike 

I just saw the Matrix again (running on TNT?).  Use those &#039;waterfall&#039; displays of green characters running down the e-ink wallpapered walls of the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;But what will you use to decorate your walls? Undergraduates will no longer quake in their boots when they walk into professors&#8217; offices (&#8220;Did she read <span class="caps">ALL</span> of those?&#8221;) if you replace objects with data.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Posted by Mike</p>

	<p>I just saw the Matrix again (running on <span class="caps">TNT</span>?).  Use those &#8216;waterfall&#8217; displays of green characters running down the e-ink wallpapered walls of the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219619</link>
		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an eInk (and &#039;eye strain&#039;) skeptic.  People already spend many hours a day reading text and watching video on illuminated LCD screens -- the idea that reading books and longer articles in particular is somehow a special eye strain problem strikes me as unlikely.  Is there any actual data?

For my purposes, computer screens are fine at the desk and for portable reading and web-browsing, my Nokia tablet (think iPhone but with a larger and higher-res screen) works very well.  I would love to have the free broadband wireless offered by the Kindle, but not the display.

And in terms of energy use, I&#039;m certain that the back light in my tablet uses much less power than the reading light that would be needed to illuminate an eInk screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m an eInk (and &#8216;eye strain&#8217;) skeptic.  People already spend many hours a day reading text and watching video on illuminated <span class="caps">LCD</span> screens&#8212;the idea that reading books and longer articles in particular is somehow a special eye strain problem strikes me as unlikely.  Is there any actual data?</p>

	<p>For my purposes, computer screens are fine at the desk and for portable reading and web-browsing, my Nokia tablet (think iPhone but with a larger and higher-res screen) works very well.  I would love to have the free broadband wireless offered by the Kindle, but not the display.</p>

	<p>And in terms of energy use, I&#8217;m certain that the back light in my tablet uses much less power than the reading light that would be needed to illuminate an eInk screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219607</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that laptops are not an alternative (and this includes the OLPC) is because its a different kind of display technology. Normal LCD laptops require light to be pumped through the LCD crystals so that you can see the display, which is tiring on the eye (which is why reading of a laptop is harder). eInk in contrast reflects ambient light, just like normal ink, requires far less electricity (as you don&#039;t need a light source in the screen) and for reading purposes is identical to normal ink. However it would make for a lousy laptop screen as it only does black and white, and (crucially) has a very low refresh rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The reason that laptops are not an alternative (and this includes the <span class="caps">OLPC</span>) is because its a different kind of display technology. Normal <span class="caps">LCD</span> laptops require light to be pumped through the <span class="caps">LCD</span> crystals so that you can see the display, which is tiring on the eye (which is why reading of a laptop is harder). eInk in contrast reflects ambient light, just like normal ink, requires far less electricity (as you don&#8217;t need a light source in the screen) and for reading purposes is identical to normal ink. However it would make for a lousy laptop screen as it only does black and white, and (crucially) has a very low refresh rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seriously tempted by the &quot;One Laptop per Child&quot; laptop, since it seems like the best and most affordable ebook reader on the market, considering its high-res greyscale mode and long battery life (along with having a bunch of other amazing features :-) ).  That limited timeframe hard sell is certainly working on me.  However, the pitch of giving it &quot;to a child in my life&quot; makes me feel kind of guilty about keeping the laptop I would receive for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am seriously tempted by the &#8220;One Laptop per Child&#8221; laptop, since it seems like the best and most affordable ebook reader on the market, considering its high-res greyscale mode and long battery life (along with having a bunch of other amazing features :-) ).  That limited timeframe hard sell is certainly working on me.  However, the pitch of giving it &#8220;to a child in my life&#8221; makes me feel kind of guilty about keeping the laptop I would receive for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219600</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering the Sony reader for a little while earlier this year, but decided against it because the price was a bit high, and the salespeople in the stores couldn&#039;t tell me either how much memory it had (&quot;80 books&quot; - but how many megs?) or how it would deal with .pdf&#039;s containing mathematical formulas and the like.  This one sounds like a better solution for me, though it&#039;s more expensive.

Perhaps when I&#039;m no longer a grad student, and the price has come down slightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was considering the Sony reader for a little while earlier this year, but decided against it because the price was a bit high, and the salespeople in the stores couldn&#8217;t tell me either how much memory it had (&#8220;80 books&#8221; &#8211; but how many megs?) or how it would deal with .pdf&#8217;s containing mathematical formulas and the like.  This one sounds like a better solution for me, though it&#8217;s more expensive.</p>

	<p>Perhaps when I&#8217;m no longer a grad student, and the price has come down slightly.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219589</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above someone asked why not just make laptops with Kindle quality screens.

The reason for this is that E-ink has limitations that would make it unbearable if used for a laptop screen. Whenever there is a change made to an E-ink page (e.g., turning a page) the screen is powered up and the &quot;ink&quot; is configured a certain way, then the power turns off.  The result is that you get a representation on the screen that is much closer to text than on a regular screen which is a bunch of pixels lit up (this is why reading on a screen produces eystrain; it is like reading with a flashlight pointed at your eye).  The problem is, on your laptop the contents of the screen are changing all the time.  To use an E-ink screen for a laptop would be like surfing graphic intensive sights using a 56k (or slower) modem.  Only, it would apply to everything you were doing on your laptop (imagine creating a powerpoint presentation like that).

The different technologies have different advantages and unfortunately that means separate devices (until they invent a screen that can do both at once...but that will be a long time coming).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Above someone asked why not just make laptops with Kindle quality screens.</p>

	<p>The reason for this is that E-ink has limitations that would make it unbearable if used for a laptop screen. Whenever there is a change made to an E-ink page (e.g., turning a page) the screen is powered up and the &#8220;ink&#8221; is configured a certain way, then the power turns off.  The result is that you get a representation on the screen that is much closer to text than on a regular screen which is a bunch of pixels lit up (this is why reading on a screen produces eystrain; it is like reading with a flashlight pointed at your eye).  The problem is, on your laptop the contents of the screen are changing all the time.  To use an E-ink screen for a laptop would be like surfing graphic intensive sights using a 56k (or slower) modem.  Only, it would apply to everything you were doing on your laptop (imagine creating a powerpoint presentation like that).</p>

	<p>The different technologies have different advantages and unfortunately that means separate devices (until they invent a screen that can do both at once&#8230;but that will be a long time coming).</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/28/irex-iliad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-219586</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting but the best bet, proprietary tendencies aside, for someone making the ebook/ereader to die for, is Apple. Hell, I was looking across a bus aisle yesterday and realized a guy was scrolling the NYTimes website on his iPhone and it looked doable. As for price, my god, the iRex is B &amp; O pricing. I&#039;ll go hold my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting but the best bet, proprietary tendencies aside, for someone making the ebook/ereader to die for, is Apple. Hell, I was looking across a bus aisle yesterday and realized a guy was scrolling the NYTimes website on his iPhone and it looked doable. As for price, my god, the iRex is B &#038; O pricing. I&#8217;ll go hold my breath.</p>
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