Comments on: U.S. Senators Announce Opposition to “Enhanced Interrogation” and “Unitary Executive” http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:25:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: SaleemSinai http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221520 SaleemSinai Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:54:52 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221520 Maybe Sad-Eyed Joe and the Triangulator should oppose actual torture on the grounds that impressionable children who see torture discussed ad nauseam (doesn't take much "ad" to get to "nauseam," of course) on the news will be impelled to seek out violent videogames to satisfy their twitching synapses. Gotta keep the kids away from the videogames! Maybe Sad-Eyed Joe and the Triangulator should oppose actual torture on the grounds that impressionable children who see torture discussed ad nauseam (doesn’t take much “ad” to get to “nauseam,” of course) on the news will be impelled to seek out violent videogames to satisfy their twitching synapses. Gotta keep the kids away from the videogames!

]]> By: JP Stormcrow http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221287 JP Stormcrow Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:07:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221287 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olm7xC-gBMY&feature=related" rel="nofollow">FPS Doug</a>: <blockquote>Sometimes I think maybe I want to join the Army. I mean it's almost like FPS but with better graphics. But what happens if I get lag out there, I'm dead. I even hear that there are no respawn points in RL.</blockquote> FPS Doug:
Sometimes I think maybe I want to join the Army. I mean it’s almost like FPS but with better graphics. But what happens if I get lag out there, I’m dead. I even hear that there are no respawn points in RL.

]]> By: JP Stormcrow http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221286 JP Stormcrow Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:50:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221286 Shares of Moneycon Inc. fell earlier this week on news that the latest expansion of their blockbuster MMORPG, World of Real Warcraft (WoRW), has run into a snag. Although the two prior versions of WORW, <i>Operation Enduring Freedom</i> and <i>Operation Iraqi Freedom</i>, continue to have millions of daily participants, the group was hoping to have <i>Operation Enduring Profits</i> rolled out in time for next year's election. Rumors were that the latest expansion plans might include some extremely enhanced weaponry over the prior two versions. Moneycon chairman Dick Cheney released a very brief statement: "We aim to squelch this outbreak of rationality and emerge as unhinged as ever. <i>Operation Enduring Profits</i> will become a reality one way or another. What are you staring at homo?" Shares of Moneycon Inc. fell earlier this week on news that the latest expansion of their blockbuster MMORPG, World of Real Warcraft (WoRW), has run into a snag. Although the two prior versions of WORW, Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom, continue to have millions of daily participants, the group was hoping to have Operation Enduring Profits rolled out in time for next year’s election. Rumors were that the latest expansion plans might include some extremely enhanced weaponry over the prior two versions. Moneycon chairman Dick Cheney released a very brief statement: “We aim to squelch this outbreak of rationality and emerge as unhinged as ever. Operation Enduring Profits will become a reality one way or another. What are you staring at homo?”

]]> By: David W. http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221280 David W. Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:55:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221280 test. test.

]]> By: Bérubé the Movie Villain http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221277 Bérubé the Movie Villain Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:30:00 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221277 <i>The market got there first.</i> The market <b>always</b> gets there first! Bwah hah hah! Bwah hah hah hah hah hah hah! The market got there first.

The market always gets there first! Bwah hah hah! Bwah hah hah hah hah hah hah!

]]> By: c.l. ball http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221275 c.l. ball Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:22:57 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221275 Brilliant. <i>I want a video game that has a lot of kissing and hugging in it.</i> The <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3913745262811179417" rel="nofollow">market got there</a> first. God bless Madison Avenue and God bless me. I'm Mickey... the capitalist aviator. Alternatively, there's myonlinesexgames.com No just hug'n and a kiss'n but a lick'n and a stick'n. Brilliant.

I want a video game that has a lot of kissing and hugging in it.

The market got there first.

God bless Madison Avenue and God bless me. I’m Mickey… the capitalist aviator.

Alternatively, there’s myonlinesexgames.com No just hug’n and a kiss’n but a lick’n and a stick’n.

]]> By: BiggerBill http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221274 BiggerBill Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:07:51 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221274 Sadly, no to coin a phrase; if anyone would develop "Enhanced Interrogation 2" Joementum would be lined up in front of Best Buy overnight, so he could be among the first to get in home--where he could hump his controller and stain his undershorts. Sadly, no to coin a phrase; if anyone would develop “Enhanced Interrogation 2” Joementum would be lined up in front of Best Buy overnight, so he could be among the first to get in home—where he could hump his controller and stain his undershorts.

]]> By: Roy Belmont http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221273 Roy Belmont Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:05:12 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221273 Silly as it may appear there's a consistent processional aspect to this semi-nonsense that goes way back. Evil acts done by one generation kept invisible to the next by suppression and denial and other obfuscating technologies. Keeping the real torture dungeons humming with activity - while forbidding or restricting access to video games that represent the same activities to children and childish adults - runs parallel to the acts of evil committed against African and American indigenes by players who kept the decent folk back home comfortably in the dark about how it was, and at the same time provided them with the material benefits of accruing empire. Kids grow up within that with a sense of their own innocence in regard to what may have happened, and that's the bigger motivation. This is not about what is, it's about what's coming, or what's trying to bring itself into being. Lieberman's and Clinton's disgusting hypocrisy and amoral political fluff are personal, small and insignificant. What matters is raising, and maintaining once raised, a generation that gains the world through manifold evil, but emerges with clean hands and a clear conscience - or thinks it does, which is nearly the same thing. "We'll torture these awful subhumans, so you kids don't have to even think about it." Silly as it may appear there’s a consistent processional aspect to this semi-nonsense that goes way back. Evil acts done by one generation kept invisible to the next by suppression and denial and other obfuscating technologies. Keeping the real torture dungeons humming with activity – while forbidding or restricting access to video games that represent the same activities to children and childish adults – runs parallel to the acts of evil committed against African and American indigenes by players who kept the decent folk back home comfortably in the dark about how it was, and at the same time provided them with the material benefits of accruing empire. Kids grow up within that with a sense of their own innocence in regard to what may have happened, and that’s the bigger motivation.
This is not about what is, it’s about what’s coming, or what’s trying to bring itself into being.
Lieberman’s and Clinton’s disgusting hypocrisy and amoral political fluff are personal, small and insignificant. What matters is raising, and maintaining once raised, a generation that gains the world through manifold evil, but emerges with clean hands and a clear conscience – or thinks it does, which is nearly the same thing.
“We’ll torture these awful subhumans, so you kids don’t have to even think about it.”

]]> By: JP Yoda http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221272 JP Yoda Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:08:52 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221272 <i>I think someone should commute that employee’s sentence.</i> Commute that employee’s sentence I think someone should. I think someone should commute that employee’s sentence.

Commute that employee’s sentence I think someone should.

]]> By: Walt http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221270 Walt Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:07:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221270 Doesn't Bérubé sound like a movie villain's name? I can just imagine our hero standing at the scene of the dastardly crime, shaking his fist and shouting Bérubé! Doesn’t Bérubé sound like a movie villain’s name? I can just imagine our hero standing at the scene of the dastardly crime, shaking his fist and shouting Bérubé!

]]> By: duus http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221267 duus Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:41:40 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221267 well said. well said.

]]> By: Thomas Allen http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221266 Thomas Allen Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:49 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221266 Bérubé! Bérubé!

]]> By: Hattie http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221263 Hattie Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:00:43 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221263 I want a video game that has a lot of kissing and hugging in it. I want a video game that has a lot of kissing and hugging in it.

]]> By: Michael Bérubé http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221262 Michael Bérubé Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:28:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221262 <i>I used to consider myself a videogame player, but ever since Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas I’ve been outraged by Space Invaders!</i> Ah, <a href="http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2006/01/to_the_manor_bo.php" rel="nofollow">Roger Simon himself couldn't have said it better.</a> Also, Ben, I didn't leave Nintendo GameCube -- Nintendo GameCube left me. <i>But you forgot the first-person shooter Blackwater: Shoot Anything That Moves.</i> Actually, I heard that the Blackwater series <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3977702&page=1" rel="nofollow">just got an upgrade</a>. I don't know whether Lieberman and Clinton have reviewed it yet. I used to consider myself a videogame player, but ever since Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas I’ve been outraged by Space Invaders!

Ah, Roger Simon himself couldn’t have said it better. Also, Ben, I didn’t leave Nintendo GameCube—Nintendo GameCube left me.

But you forgot the first-person shooter Blackwater: Shoot Anything That Moves.

Actually, I heard that the Blackwater series just got an upgrade. I don’t know whether Lieberman and Clinton have reviewed it yet.

]]> By: lemuel pitkin http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-221257 lemuel pitkin Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:24:14 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/11/us-senators-announce-opposition-to-%e2%80%9cenhanced-interrogation%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cunitary-executive%e2%80%9d/#comment-221257 Next up: Paul Berman's 14,000-word <i>New York Times Magazine</i> essay on how playing <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Contra_flyer.jpg" rel="nofollow">"Contra"</a> in the 1980s gave him the moral clarity and hand-eye coordination to beat "Islamofascism 2". Next up: Paul Berman’s 14,000-word New York Times Magazine essay on how playing “Contra” in the 1980s gave him the moral clarity and hand-eye coordination to beat “Islamofascism 2”.

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