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		<title>By: Don Garner</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222798</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on all of you for treating this so lightly! Chairman Bob Avakian, our Great Helmsman who will someday lead the American &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shining Path&lt;/a&gt;, has been praised by no less than Howard Zinn and Cornel West. So you might want to rethink your petty-bourgeois counter-revolutionary mockery, especially in light of what happened to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Elena_Moyano&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Maria Elena Moyano &lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shame on all of you for treating this so lightly! Chairman Bob Avakian, our Great Helmsman who will someday lead the American <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path" rel="nofollow">Shining Path</a>, has been praised by no less than Howard Zinn and Cornel West. So you might want to rethink your petty-bourgeois counter-revolutionary mockery, especially in light of what happened to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Elena_Moyano" rel="nofollow"> Maria Elena Moyano </a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222777</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, CT ate my markup.  Ahem.  To the tune of &quot;Bye-Bye, Birdie&quot;:

&quot;We&#039;re not taken in by Bob Avaaaaakian /He&#039;s just like all the rest, and he&#039;s mistaaaakian.

Blow your dogma out your ass /You don&#039;t know the working class.

Bye-bye, Vanguard, bye-bye!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Argh, CT ate my markup.  Ahem.  To the tune of &#8220;Bye-Bye, Birdie&#8221;:</p>

	<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re not taken in by Bob Avaaaaakian /He&#8217;s just like all the rest, and he&#8217;s mistaaaakian.</p>

	<p>Blow your dogma out your ass /You don&#8217;t know the working class.</p>

	<p>Bye-bye, Vanguard, bye-bye!&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222776</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as a postscript, I am annoyed to note that the full lyrics to the Philadelphia Anarchist Boys Chorus&#039; immortal ode to the RCP, &quot;Bye-Bye Vanguard&quot;, are apparently not available anywhere on the interwebs.  So I can only treat you all to the tiny snipped that I happen to remember from many years ago.  To the tune of &quot;Bye-Bye, Birdie&quot;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;We&#039;re not taken in by Bob Avaaaaakian /He&#039;s just like all the rest, and he&#039;s mistaaaakian.

Blow your dogma out your ass /You don&#039;t know the working class.

Bye-bye, Vanguard, bye-bye!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And as a postscript, I am annoyed to note that the full lyrics to the Philadelphia Anarchist Boys Chorus&#8217; immortal ode to the <span class="caps">RCP</span>, &#8220;Bye-Bye Vanguard&#8221;, are apparently not available anywhere on the interwebs.  So I can only treat you all to the tiny snipped that I happen to remember from many years ago.  To the tune of <a href="<blockquote><i>We&#8217;re&#8221; title=&#8221;&#8220;>Bye-Bye, Birdie</i></a> not taken in by Bob Avaaaaakian /He&#8217;s just like all the rest, and he&#8217;s mistaaaakian.</p>

	<p>Blow your dogma out your ass /You don&#8217;t know the working class.</p>

	<p>Bye-bye, Vanguard, bye-bye!</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222770</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh: huh, interesting.  Long list of names there, including a few (depressing) surprises.  The RCP&#039;s, um, idiosyncratic organizing tactics being what they  notoriously are, I wonder how many of those people are aware that they&#039;re listed as signatories?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Josh: huh, interesting.  Long list of names there, including a few (depressing) surprises.  The <span class="caps">RCP</span>&#8217;s, um, idiosyncratic organizing tactics being what they  notoriously are, I wonder how many of those people are aware that they&#8217;re listed as signatories?</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222769</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck D was one of a number of signatories of an ad in the NY Review of Books on the importance of listening to Bob Avakian, and not letting his courageous voice be repressed by the authorities (which seems not to have been prompted by any actual attempts at such suppression, but nevermind ...); see here, if you must:
http://www.engagewithbobavakian.org/statement.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chuck D was one of a number of signatories of an ad in the <span class="caps">NY </span>Review of Books on the importance of listening to Bob Avakian, and not letting his courageous voice be repressed by the authorities (which seems not to have been prompted by any actual attempts at such suppression, but nevermind &#8230;); see here, if you must:<br />
<a href="http://www.engagewithbobavakian.org/statement.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.engagewithbobavakian.org/statement.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222749</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott: Huh, what&#039;s Chuck D&#039;s involvement with the RCP?  A Google search for &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.google.com/search?q=chuck%20d%20rcp&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chuck D RCP&lt;/a&gt; turns up this very crookedtimber post as the #1 hit, and the only other real mention is a bulletin board post mentioning him talking at some RCP-cosponsored event in Harlem a few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Scott: Huh, what&#8217;s Chuck D&#8217;s involvement with the <span class="caps">RCP</span>?  A Google search for <a href='http://www.google.com/search?q=chuck%20d%20rcp' rel="nofollow">Chuck <span class="caps">D RCP</span></a> turns up this very crookedtimber post as the #1 hit, and the only other real mention is a bulletin board post mentioning him talking at some <span class="caps">RCP</span>-cosponsored event in Harlem a few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: a very public sociologist</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222702</link>
		<dc:creator>a very public sociologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are all organisations with the RCP monicker bonkers? Ours over here was completely gaga. Just ask Frank Furedi.

Btw, I hope you understand that by calling into question the genius and (great) helmsmanship of chairman Bob that CT will shortly be host to dozens of Avakian acolytes defending his good name and the veracity of the New Synthesis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Are all organisations with the <span class="caps">RCP</span> monicker bonkers? Ours over here was completely gaga. Just ask Frank Furedi.</p>

	<p>Btw, I hope you understand that by calling into question the genius and (great) helmsmanship of chairman Bob that CT will shortly be host to dozens of Avakian acolytes defending his good name and the veracity of the New Synthesis!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222669</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m not here to promote Bob or his &quot;New Synthesis.&quot; Much less Avakian&#039;s feeble distancing from Stalin&#039;s &quot;errors.&quot; But I do think Ely takes the question much more seriously. Which is why I&#039;m sorry to see his thoughtful critique of Avakian just lumped together with that which it critiques.

I don&#039;t want to take away from the comic opportunities presented by Avakian&#039;s latest speech either. But I do also think that its unfortunate that the state of the revolutionary left in the U.S. is what it is, and thats why I welcome smart and earnest attempts like Ely&#039;s to go beyond pointing out what is laughable about the RCP and trying to figure out what it might take to reconstitute a revolutionary left on a sounder basis, which, as I think Ely makes clear, means, among other things, a much more serious confrontation with the Stalin-era than Avakian seems interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not here to promote Bob or his &#8220;New Synthesis.&#8221; Much less Avakian&#8217;s feeble distancing from Stalin&#8217;s &#8220;errors.&#8221; But I do think Ely takes the question much more seriously. Which is why I&#8217;m sorry to see his thoughtful critique of Avakian just lumped together with that which it critiques.</p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t want to take away from the comic opportunities presented by Avakian&#8217;s latest speech either. But I do also think that its unfortunate that the state of the revolutionary left in the U.S. is what it is, and thats why I welcome smart and earnest attempts like Ely&#8217;s to go beyond pointing out what is laughable about the <span class="caps">RCP</span> and trying to figure out what it might take to reconstitute a revolutionary left on a sounder basis, which, as I think Ely makes clear, means, among other things, a much more serious confrontation with the Stalin-era than Avakian seems interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLemee</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222664</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gist of the New Synthesis seems to be that, well, yes, the concentration camps and show trials and suchlike really were very unfortunate, and Bob will definitely try to make sure it won&#039;t happen again. 

That is a great relief to know. But he has to promise. And it has to be a &quot;cross his heart, hope to die&quot;-type promise, because otherwise it doesn&#039;t count.

I am very earnest, Christopher, about Stalin&#039;s &quot;grievous errors,&quot; as Avakian calls them. &lt;em&gt;Errors&lt;/em&gt;? Gosh, that does sound serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The gist of the New Synthesis seems to be that, well, yes, the concentration camps and show trials and suchlike really were very unfortunate, and Bob will definitely try to make sure it won&#8217;t happen again.</p>

	<p>That is a great relief to know. But he has to promise. And it has to be a &#8220;cross his heart, hope to die&#8221;-type promise, because otherwise it doesn&#8217;t count.</p>

	<p>I am very earnest, Christopher, about Stalin&#8217;s &#8220;grievous errors,&#8221; as Avakian calls them. <em>Errors</em>? Gosh, that does sound serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222657</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that Ely is not going to spend the rest of his years &quot;engaging&quot; Avakian and the RCP. He obviously has personal reasons to do so that not everybody shares, but I think his critique is more interesting than his subject matter (if perhaps a less fruitful fountain of material for snarky commentary). The tininess of the RCP is a departure point for reflecting on its failures. It is NOT the main point of the piece by a longshot. Ely really is taking on much more than the obvious inadequacies of Avakian-Thought. His argument is that Avakian&#039;s self-styled &quot;New Synthesis&quot; is far too shallow to really deal with the failures not just of the RCP but of the whole international communist movement. Unlike many others who make such observations, however, he remains committed to the larger notion of the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism. I find this refreshing, if admittedly a little earnest for the peanut gallery gathered here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My guess is that Ely is not going to spend the rest of his years &#8220;engaging&#8221; Avakian and the <span class="caps">RCP</span>. He obviously has personal reasons to do so that not everybody shares, but I think his critique is more interesting than his subject matter (if perhaps a less fruitful fountain of material for snarky commentary). The tininess of the <span class="caps">RCP</span> is a departure point for reflecting on its failures. It is <span class="caps">NOT</span> the main point of the piece by a longshot. Ely really is taking on much more than the obvious inadequacies of Avakian-Thought. His argument is that Avakian&#8217;s self-styled &#8220;New Synthesis&#8221; is far too shallow to really deal with the failures not just of the <span class="caps">RCP</span> but of the whole international communist movement. Unlike many others who make such observations, however, he remains committed to the larger notion of the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism. I find this refreshing, if admittedly a little earnest for the peanut gallery gathered here.</p>
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		<title>By: JP Stormcrow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222654</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Stormcrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &quot;R&quot; logo of the RCP is really quite spiffy. I think a branded line of golf shirts etc. would do quite well.

But what I really want to know is where does he stand on &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/best-of-2007-a-personal-choice/#comment-222552&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MySpace &amp; Facebook&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That &#8220;R&#8221; logo of the <span class="caps">RCP</span> is really quite spiffy. I think a branded line of golf shirts etc. would do quite well.</p>

	<p>But what I really want to know is where does he stand on <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/best-of-2007-a-personal-choice/#comment-222552" rel="nofollow">MySpace &#038; Facebook</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: dadanarchist</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222651</link>
		<dc:creator>dadanarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit I missed out on the RCP when I was younger and more actively engaged in subversive activities - the various newspaper-selling cliques hadn&#039;t really made it as far west as Portland, OR, so all there were were various types of anarchists and ecologists.

When I moved to NYC for grad school, though, I was pleasantly surprised to learn of these new species of leftists and their newspaper-selling skills - the SWP, WWP, RCP, ISO, etc. Oh, the acronyms! It&#039;s like the New Deal.

One day in Union Square, I listened to two bright-eyed young RCPers - they could not have been much older than 19 - and they told me all sorts of wonderful things about the Party, and especially about Chairman Bob. 

Later I saw Chairman Bob&#039;s movie and the RCP been my favorite leftoid sect ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have to admit I missed out on the <span class="caps">RCP</span> when I was younger and more actively engaged in subversive activities &#8211; the various newspaper-selling cliques hadn&#8217;t really made it as far west as Portland, OR, so all there were were various types of anarchists and ecologists.</p>

	<p>When I moved to <span class="caps">NYC</span> for grad school, though, I was pleasantly surprised to learn of these new species of leftists and their newspaper-selling skills &#8211; the <span class="caps">SWP</span>, WWP, <span class="caps">RCP</span>, ISO, etc. Oh, the acronyms! It&#8217;s like the New Deal.</p>

	<p>One day in Union Square, I listened to two bright-eyed young RCPers &#8211; they could not have been much older than 19 &#8211; and they told me all sorts of wonderful things about the Party, and especially about Chairman Bob.</p>

	<p>Later I saw Chairman Bob&#8217;s movie and the <span class="caps">RCP</span> been my favorite leftoid sect ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...Nice to see some people engaging with Bob&#039;s work, although I&#039;m not sure if the original entry is a joke or not. If you want Bob Avakian to run for President, then, as he says in one of his &lt;a href=&quot;www.bobavakian.net/audio.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;7 Talks&quot;&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;You missed the whole point!&quot; 

The critiques Ely raises are interesting, yes, but don&#039;t seem to hit on any fundamental misdirection of the RCP...seems to focus around the theme that &#039;because there isn&#039;t a huge following, something must be wrong with the line&#039;...but then goes on to say how NO rev. organization has mass support now.  Seems like Ely is falling into what Lenin criticized as &quot;Truth as an organizing principle&quot;...In other words, if it works...it&#039;s true! Therefore, if it&#039;s NOT working, must be false. I&#039;ll admit I didn&#039;t read all of Ely&#039;s work, but that seemed a theme from what I scanned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hmmmm&#8230;Nice to see some people engaging with Bob&#8217;s work, although I&#8217;m not sure if the original entry is a joke or not. If you want Bob Avakian to run for President, then, as he says in one of his <a href="www.bobavakian.net/audio.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;7 Talks&#8221;</a>: &#8220;You missed the whole point!&#8221;</p>

	<p>The critiques Ely raises are interesting, yes, but don&#8217;t seem to hit on any fundamental misdirection of the <span class="caps">RCP</span>&#8230;seems to focus around the theme that &#8216;because there isn&#8217;t a huge following, something must be wrong with the line&#8217;&#8230;but then goes on to say how NO rev. organization has mass support now.  Seems like Ely is falling into what Lenin criticized as &#8220;Truth as an organizing principle&#8221;&#8230;In other words, if it works&#8230;it&#8217;s true! Therefore, if it&#8217;s <span class="caps">NOT</span> working, must be false. I&#8217;ll admit I didn&#8217;t read all of Ely&#8217;s work, but that seemed a theme from what I scanned.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Baugh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222625</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hidari: &quot;I see from the piece linked to that Avakian has had an ‘epistemological rupture’ which perhaps explains how he can ‘come from within’.&quot; Isn&#039;t that one of the things they warn about in commercials for natural male enhancement products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hidari: &#8220;I see from the piece linked to that Avakian has had an &#8216;epistemological rupture&#8217; which perhaps explains how he can &#8216;come from within&#8217;.&#8221; Isn&#8217;t that one of the things they warn about in commercials for natural male enhancement products?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2007/12/20/also-matching-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-222622</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Michael—It’s been done. Imagine! Chuck D must have kicked out some big bucks to make that happen.&lt;/i&gt;

No, no, that was the New York Review of Books.  We need to do it again, even bigger.  In fact, &lt;i&gt;two&lt;/i&gt; pages might be necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Michael&#8212;It&#8217;s been done. Imagine! Chuck D must have kicked out some big bucks to make that happen.</i></p>

	<p>No, no, that was the New York Review of Books.  We need to do it again, even bigger.  In fact, <i>two</i> pages might be necessary.</p>
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