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	<title>Comments on: Then and now</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, &lt;i&gt;How Buildings Learn&lt;/i&gt; is such a great, underappreciated book that has so many extra-architectural applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, <i>How Buildings Learn</i> is such a great, underappreciated book that has so many extra-architectural applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/06/then-and-now-2/comment-page-1/#comment-223699</link>
		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool.  I have to say that Paris appears to have been &#039;unimproved&#039; less than New York.  But I think the apparent decline (or at least the feeling that the life has been sucked out of many of the scenes) is an illusion of the exercise being inherently biased in favor of the past and against the present.  

The past photographer chose the locations and angles because they were interesting or picturesque (at least relative to other options nearby).  The present photographer doesn&#039;t have the option of comparing modern beauty to past ugliness, since obviously nobody in the past went around systematically photographing scenes that were ugly or nondescript (or empty) in 1910 but would show the modern Paris or New York to best advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Very cool.  I have to say that Paris appears to have been &#8216;unimproved&#8217; less than New York.  But I think the apparent decline (or at least the feeling that the life has been sucked out of many of the scenes) is an illusion of the exercise being inherently biased in favor of the past and against the present.</p>

	<p>The past photographer chose the locations and angles because they were interesting or picturesque (at least relative to other options nearby).  The present photographer doesn&#8217;t have the option of comparing modern beauty to past ugliness, since obviously nobody in the past went around systematically photographing scenes that were ugly or nondescript (or empty) in 1910 but would show the modern Paris or New York to best advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Åsteder &#171; Steinskogs Weblog</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/06/then-and-now-2/comment-page-1/#comment-223641</link>
		<dc:creator>Åsteder &#171; Steinskogs Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Via Crooked Timber fant jeg et slideshow fra The Morning News med fotografier der Christopher Rauschenberg har tatt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...]  Via Crooked Timber fant jeg et slideshow fra The Morning News med fotografier der Christopher Rauschenberg har tatt [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eszter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like such comparisons, too, although I agree with Otto that these photos are more similar than I would have expected. Notice the prevalence of graffiti in the more recent pictures though, sad.

After living in Geneva for a year, I bought a book like this. (Gen&#232;ve: Pass&#233; Et Pr&#233;sent Sous Le M&#234;me Angle) The contrasts there were more pronounced.  And I think one could go back today and redo those photos and still find yet more changes.  Even just in the decade since I&#039;ve lived there, there has been considerable change, I think much of it as the city has dealt with public transportation and adjusting the circulation of traffic. Of course, this might not change the architecture per se, but it&#039;s not necessarily trivial for the layout of streets and other public areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I like such comparisons, too, although I agree with Otto that these photos are more similar than I would have expected. Notice the prevalence of graffiti in the more recent pictures though, sad.</p>

	<p>After living in Geneva for a year, I bought a book like this. (Gen&egrave;ve: Pass&eacute; Et Pr&eacute;sent Sous Le M&ecirc;me Angle) The contrasts there were more pronounced.  And I think one could go back today and redo those photos and still find yet more changes.  Even just in the decade since I&#8217;ve lived there, there has been considerable change, I think much of it as the city has dealt with public transportation and adjusting the circulation of traffic. Of course, this might not change the architecture per se, but it&#8217;s not necessarily trivial for the layout of streets and other public areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big thing for me was how almost all the &#039;then&#039; photographs had a handcart posed in front of their buildings.  Were there just lots of handcarts littered around olde-worlde Paris?  Or did Ruaschenberg push around his own prop handcart to bling-up his pictures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The big thing for me was how almost all the &#8216;then&#8217; photographs had a handcart posed in front of their buildings.  Were there just lots of handcarts littered around olde-worlde Paris?  Or did Ruaschenberg push around his own prop handcart to bling-up his pictures?</p>
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		<title>By: Paris Changing &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paris Changing &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Rauschenberg slideshow. But the big thing for me is how little had changed.</description>
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