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		<title>By: Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Martin Luther King, Jr. Wished To Be Remembered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Martin Luther King, Jr. Wished To Be Remembered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has the 1961 BBC interview with MLK on the old Face to Face program, it would be great if you could post a link or post it on Youtube. He is very moving and poetic in talking about his life and views.

http://www.birth-of-tv.org/birth/assetView.do?asset=BIRTHOFTELEV19001____111842296033

There is an interview on youtube from 1957.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=martin+luther+king+interview&amp;search=Search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If anyone has the 1961 <span class="caps">BBC</span> interview with <span class="caps">MLK</span> on the old Face to Face program, it would be great if you could post a link or post it on Youtube. He is very moving and poetic in talking about his life and views.</p>

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	<p>There is an interview on youtube from 1957.</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=martin+luther+king+interview&#038;search=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=martin+luther+king+interview&#038;search=Search</a></p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224675</link>
		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think MLK made a &quot;fetish of capitalism.&quot; 
Thought that the worker was worthy of his hire, too. None of that incompatible with Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t think <span class="caps">MLK</span> made a &#8220;fetish of capitalism.&#8221;<br />
Thought that the worker was worthy of his hire, too. None of that incompatible with Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sseziwa Mukasa</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224648</link>
		<dc:creator>Sseziwa Mukasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was better at making theological arguments I&#039;d probably be able to draw a better conclusion from the fact that all these parables are in the Book of Matthew who was traditionally held to have been a tax collector.  So for that matter is the &quot;render unto Caesar&quot; passage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If I was better at making theological arguments I&#8217;d probably be able to draw a better conclusion from the fact that all these parables are in the Book of Matthew who was traditionally held to have been a tax collector.  So for that matter is the &#8220;render unto Caesar&#8221; passage.</p>
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		<title>By: Sseziwa Mukasa</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224646</link>
		<dc:creator>Sseziwa Mukasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But would King have opposed communism, tout court? “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”?

I doubt that very much: “And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Taking Biblical quotes out of context does not a good argument make.  The passage in Acts refers specifically to the organization of early Christian communities and is of a piece with the Gospel parables of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:16-26;&amp;version=31;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rich young man&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2020:1-15;&amp;version=31;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;workers in the vineyard&lt;/a&gt;.  Thus the passage in Acts is meant to confirm that the Christian communities were indeed following the lessons of Christ, similarly to the miraculous healing and other events related in the Book.  But this is only for organizing the Christian community within itself, it does not address how the Christian community or individual Christians should handle property rights with respect to the outside world.  On the other hand the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:14-30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;parable of the talents&lt;/a&gt; and the aforementioned parable of the workers in the vineyard can be read as respectful of property rights and in fact a defense of the same.  Even though he may have been an indifferent theologian, I suspect Dr. King would be quite aware of these two threads of argument running through the New Testament and thus cautious to endorse either laissez faire capitalism or communism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>But would King have opposed communism, tout court? &#8220;From each according to his ability, to each according to his need&#8221;?</blockquote></p>

	<p>I doubt that very much: &#8220;And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.&#8221; </p>

	<p>Taking Biblical quotes out of context does not a good argument make.  The passage in Acts refers specifically to the organization of early Christian communities and is of a piece with the Gospel parables of the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:16-26;&#038;version=31;" rel="nofollow">rich young man</a> and the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2020:1-15;&#038;version=31;" rel="nofollow">workers in the vineyard</a>.  Thus the passage in Acts is meant to confirm that the Christian communities were indeed following the lessons of Christ, similarly to the miraculous healing and other events related in the Book.  But this is only for organizing the Christian community within itself, it does not address how the Christian community or individual Christians should handle property rights with respect to the outside world.  On the other hand the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:14-30" rel="nofollow">parable of the talents</a> and the aforementioned parable of the workers in the vineyard can be read as respectful of property rights and in fact a defense of the same.  Even though he may have been an indifferent theologian, I suspect Dr. King would be quite aware of these two threads of argument running through the New Testament and thus cautious to endorse either laissez faire capitalism or communism.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No real moral judgment implied, just noting that the figures encountered in the primary school classroom are often vastly different from the historical figures as they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No real moral judgment implied, just noting that the figures encountered in the primary school classroom are often vastly different from the historical figures as they were.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Liberal &#187; King and Communism</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224619</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Liberal &#187; King and Communism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did Dr. King stand on Communism?  This is why I love Crooked Timber: The international Communist movement (corporate world headquarters in Moscow, later with rival [...]</description>
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		<title>By: engels</title>
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		<dc:creator>engels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there&#039;s really no need to choose between serving God and Mammon after all: the Former is a great deity--but a terrible economist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So there&#8217;s really no need to choose between serving God and Mammon after all: the Former is a great deity&#8212;but a terrible economist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Martin Luther King links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Martin Luther King links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Go Tell It On the Mountain: Scott McLemee of Crooked Timber on the King Papers Project. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flippanter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flippanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sure, and one can approve of Dr. King’s civil rights leadership without approving of all of his political and economic ideas.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think that&#039;s possible, given the natural and willed limitations of the mass media and their audience.  &quot;I approve...&quot; is a great deal simpler than &quot;I approve of this, but not of that, because....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Sure, and one can approve of Dr. King&#8217;s civil rights leadership without approving of all of his political and economic ideas.</i></p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s possible, given the natural and willed limitations of the mass media and their audience.  &#8220;I approve&#8230;&#8221; is a great deal simpler than &#8220;I approve of this, but not of that, because&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Saying, “I approve of Dr. King” is, in contemporary American politics, the equivalent of saying, “I approve of puppies.”&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, and one can approve of Dr. King&#039;s civil rights leadership without approving of all of his political and economic ideas.  The same goes for Gandhi -- great leader, great man, terrible economist.  And Jefferson -- great political thinker and polymath, but a slave-owner and terrible hypocrite.  So it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Saying, &#8220;I approve of Dr. King&#8221; is, in contemporary American politics, the equivalent of saying, &#8220;I approve of puppies.&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>Sure, and one can approve of Dr. King&#8217;s civil rights leadership without approving of all of his political and economic ideas.  The same goes for Gandhi&#8212;great leader, great man, terrible economist.  And Jefferson&#8212;great political thinker and polymath, but a slave-owner and terrible hypocrite.  So it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: novakant</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224582</link>
		<dc:creator>novakant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;MLK the social democrat and VietCong sympathizer is no more going to appear in an elementary school classroom&lt;/i&gt;

Social democracy, Vietcong sympathies and slavery all in one enumeration of sins - is social democracy really held in that low a regard in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i><span class="caps">MLK</span> the social democrat and VietCong sympathizer is no more going to appear in an elementary school classroom</i></p>

	<p>Social democracy, Vietcong sympathies and slavery all in one enumeration of sins &#8211; is social democracy really held in that low a regard in the US?</p>
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		<title>By: Beryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;... according to &lt;b&gt;h&lt;/b&gt;is need&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;&#8230; according to <b>h</b>is need&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew R.</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/14/go-tell-it-on-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-224572</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The secular hagiography that we get of King in U.S. primary schools is of course going to blot out MLK the man.  Of course any controversy is rubbed off.  MLK the social democrat and VietCong sympathizer is no more going to appear in an elementary school classroom than is the Thomas Jefferson rogering his favorite slave on French furniture he couldn&#039;t afford.

Saying, &quot;I approve of Dr. King&quot; is, in contemporary American politics, the equivalent of saying, &quot;I approve of puppies.&quot;

And that&#039;s a good thing.  Having a civil rights leader up there in the pantheon of civic saints can only be good for race relations.  After all, within a decade and a half from a time when black people in the American southeast could be shot by white people with impunity, public displays of racism were already unacceptable.  The rapid (if superficial) acceptance of equality for non-whites came about partially because of how quickly MLK joined the ranks of Jefferson, Lincoln, and Washington in the elementary school classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The secular hagiography that we get of King in U.S. primary schools is of course going to blot out <span class="caps">MLK</span> the man.  Of course any controversy is rubbed off.  <span class="caps">MLK</span> the social democrat and VietCong sympathizer is no more going to appear in an elementary school classroom than is the Thomas Jefferson rogering his favorite slave on French furniture he couldn&#8217;t afford.</p>

	<p>Saying, &#8220;I approve of Dr. King&#8221; is, in contemporary American politics, the equivalent of saying, &#8220;I approve of puppies.&#8221;</p>

	<p>And that&#8217;s a good thing.  Having a civil rights leader up there in the pantheon of civic saints can only be good for race relations.  After all, within a decade and a half from a time when black people in the American southeast could be shot by white people with impunity, public displays of racism were already unacceptable.  The rapid (if superficial) acceptance of equality for non-whites came about partially because of how quickly <span class="caps">MLK</span> joined the ranks of Jefferson, Lincoln, and Washington in the elementary school classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLemee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott McLemee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; attributed to Luke, however, and presents itself more or less as the action-packed sequel to his Gospel. 

And the idea that the early church was communistic isn&#039;t exactly something cooked up in the 1980s to curry favor with the Sandinistas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It <em>is</em> attributed to Luke, however, and presents itself more or less as the action-packed sequel to his Gospel.</p>

	<p>And the idea that the early church was communistic isn&#8217;t exactly something cooked up in the 1980s to curry favor with the Sandinistas.</p>
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