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		<title>By: Tom Doyle</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/15/six-degrees-of-louis-farrakhan/comment-page-2/#comment-224817</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;LIEBERMAN SAYS HE IS OPEN TO MEETING FARRAKHAN&lt;/b&gt;
September 26, 2000

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday he was willing to meet Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader who has been criticized for anti-Semitic remarks and has questioned the Democratic vice presidential nominee&#039;s loyalty. 

Lieberman [said]..in an interview he respected Farrakhan and was open to meeting with him to promote reconciliation in the United States. 

[Lieberman]... came under fire from Farrakhan in August, when ... the controversial black leader ...questioned whether Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, might be more loyal to Israel to the United States. 

Asked if he was willing to meet Farrakhan, Lieberman told the radio network: &quot;I am very open to that.&quot; 

&quot;Minister Farrakhan has said a few things, including earlier in the campaign, that I thought were just not informed but, you know, I have respect for him and I have respect for the Muslim community generally,&quot; Lieberman said. 

&quot;I&#039;d be open to sitting and talking to Minister Farrakhan. It hasn&#039;t sort of come together yet but I look forward to it,&quot; he added. &quot;This is a time to try to knit the country together more and to make us, as (Vice President) Al Gore always says, the more perfect union that our founders dreamed of.&quot; 

Lieberman said he would like to meet before the &quot;Million Family March&quot; Farrakhan is organizing in Washington on Oct. 16, the fifth anniversary of the Million Man March aimed at empowering black men. 

Farrakhan has often been criticized for his strident rhetoric, which includes calling whites &quot;devils,&quot; referring to Jewish, Arab and Asian businessmen in black communities as &quot;bloodsuckers&quot; and denouncing the pope as &quot;the anti-Christ.&quot; 

Lieberman said he admired Farrakhan for his efforts to register voters ahead of the Nov. 7 election...Asked if he would like to meet before the &quot;Million Family March,&quot; Lieberman said: &quot;I&#039;d like to do that. I think that&#039;s a great idea. 

&quot;I look at anything that anybody does to get people to register and to vote (as) really at the heart of what the democracy is about,&quot; he added. &quot;So I admire what Minister Farrakhan is doing there.&quot; 

He also said he was not bothered by any criticism he gets for such a meeting, saying his wife Hadassah often jokes about his stubbornness when he decides to do something. 

&quot;She says ... Joe listens but he gets stubborn when he decides he wants to do something, he does it,&quot; Lieberman said. &quot;That&#039;s the way I feel about this. By my nature I&#039;m an optimist and I&#039;m a bridge builder and that&#039;s what this is all about.&quot; 

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/26/campaign.lieberman.farrakhan.reut/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b><span class="caps">LIEBERMAN SAYS HE IS OPEN TO MEETING FARRAKHAN</span></b><br />
September 26, 2000</p>

	<p><span class="caps">WASHINGTON </span>(Reuters) &#8211; Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday he was willing to meet Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader who has been criticized for anti-Semitic remarks and has questioned the Democratic vice presidential nominee&#8217;s loyalty.</p>

	<p>Lieberman [said]..in an interview he respected Farrakhan and was open to meeting with him to promote reconciliation in the United States.</p>

	<p>[Lieberman]&#8230; came under fire from Farrakhan in August, when &#8230; the controversial black leader &#8230;questioned whether Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, might be more loyal to Israel to the United States.</p>

	<p>Asked if he was willing to meet Farrakhan, Lieberman told the radio network: &#8220;I am very open to that.&#8221;</p>

	<p>&#8220;Minister Farrakhan has said a few things, including earlier in the campaign, that I thought were just not informed but, you know, I have respect for him and I have respect for the Muslim community generally,&#8221; Lieberman said.</p>

	<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d be open to sitting and talking to Minister Farrakhan. It hasn&#8217;t sort of come together yet but I look forward to it,&#8221; he added. &#8220;This is a time to try to knit the country together more and to make us, as (Vice President) Al Gore always says, the more perfect union that our founders dreamed of.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Lieberman said he would like to meet before the &#8220;Million Family March&#8221; Farrakhan is organizing in Washington on Oct. 16, the fifth anniversary of the Million Man March aimed at empowering black men.</p>

	<p>Farrakhan has often been criticized for his strident rhetoric, which includes calling whites &#8220;devils,&#8221; referring to Jewish, Arab and Asian businessmen in black communities as &#8220;bloodsuckers&#8221; and denouncing the pope as &#8220;the anti-Christ.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Lieberman said he admired Farrakhan for his efforts to register voters ahead of the Nov. 7 election&#8230;Asked if he would like to meet before the &#8220;Million Family March,&#8221; Lieberman said: &#8220;I&#8217;d like to do that. I think that&#8217;s a great idea.</p>

	<p>&#8220;I look at anything that anybody does to get people to register and to vote (as) really at the heart of what the democracy is about,&#8221; he added. &#8220;So I admire what Minister Farrakhan is doing there.&#8221;</p>

	<p>He also said he was not bothered by any criticism he gets for such a meeting, saying his wife Hadassah often jokes about his stubbornness when he decides to do something.</p>

	<p>&#8220;She says &#8230; Joe listens but he gets stubborn when he decides he wants to do something, he does it,&#8221; Lieberman said. &#8220;That&#8217;s the way I feel about this. By my nature I&#8217;m an optimist and I&#8217;m a bridge builder and that&#8217;s what this is all about.&#8221;</p>

	<p><a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/26/campaign.lieberman.farrakhan.reut/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/26/campaign.lieberman.farrakhan.reut/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Doyle</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/15/six-degrees-of-louis-farrakhan/comment-page-2/#comment-224809</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Oct. 5, 2000, the following article appeared on the website of the Media Research Council, (which appears to criticize the media from a right wing perspective) in Media Reality Check, (described, on its masthead as “A Weekly Report of Major News Stories Distorted or Ignored)


 &lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt; Lieberman Respects Farrakhan: No Story?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-After Eight Days, Most of the Press Still Missing, Despite Question to Clinton, Fox&#039;s Grilling of Daley 
  

 &lt;i&gt; On September 27, eight days ago, the first press reports revealed that Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Lieberman said he would be willing to meet with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has called Judaism, Lieberman&#039;s faith, a &quot;gutter religion.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; In an interview with April Ryan of the American Urban Radio Networks, Lieberman said, &quot;Look, Minister Farrakhan said a few things earlier in the campaign that were just not informed. But I have respect for him, and I have respect for the Muslim community generally.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; Where&#039;s the furor? The story first came on Wednesday from the Philadelphia Inquirer&#039;s Jodi Enda and hit the Knight-Ridder national wire. USA Today mentioned it. Ryan questioned President Clinton about it in a briefing aired live on CNN. Clinton seemed surprised: &quot;I didn&#039;t understand. What did you say about Joe Lieberman and Louis Farrakhan?&quot; When Ryan explained that &quot;Joe Lieberman told me yesterday&quot; that he would meet with Farrakhan, Clinton only said, &quot;Well, if anybody has got the standing to do it, he certainly does.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; That night, Ryan appeared on Fox&#039;s O&#039;Reilly Factor. Host Bill O&#039;Reilly asked if she challenged Lieberman on his statement. She said yes: &quot;He said, but it&#039;s time for us to come together. And he&#039;s trying to win. That&#039;s basically what it is. He wants to win an election and the African-American vote is crucial.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; Last Thursday, the story was picked up by UPI and the Associated Press in the tenth paragraph of a story on the upcoming &quot;Million Family March.&quot; On Friday, the Anti-Defamation League, whose earlier criticism of Lieberman for religious talk on the stump drew all-network coverage, warned Lieberman would be &quot;legitimizing a bigot.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; It hit television on Sunday. On NBC&#039;s Meet the Press, Tim Russert asked Rick Lazio if he&#039;d meet with Farrakhan. (He said no.) On Fox News Sunday, Tony Snow asked Gore campaign chairman Bill Daley about Lieberman. &quot;Does he do that with the Vice President&#039;s blessing?&quot; Daley said no, &quot;Joe makes those decisions on his own. He obviously doesn&#039;t have to get approval from Al Gore to have meetings.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; On Monday, AP reported its first full story on Lieberman&#039;s remarks, based on criticism from RNC Chairman Jim Nicholson. On Tuesday, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen wrote about it, concluding, &quot;It would be hard now for Lieberman to repudiate Farrakhan, but it would be harder still for us to respect someone who will not.&quot;  &lt;/i&gt;

 &lt;i&gt; But now, eight days in, let&#039;s list who is still missing on this story: The New York Times. The Los Angeles Times. The Washington Post news pages. Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News &amp; World Report. CBS. CNN&#039;s newscasts. NBC&#039;s newscasts. ABC arrived this morning. Are the media being tough on both sides? Can a press corps that celebrated Lieberman&#039;s faith now ignore it? &lt;/i&gt;  -- Tim Graham 


http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2000/20001005.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On Oct. 5, 2000, the following article appeared on the website of the Media Research Council, (which appears to criticize the media from a right wing perspective) in Media Reality Check, (described, on its masthead as &#8220;A Weekly Report of Major News Stories Distorted or Ignored)</p>


	<p><b> <i> Lieberman Respects Farrakhan: No Story?</i></b>-After Eight Days, Most of the Press Still Missing, Despite Question to Clinton, Fox&#8217;s Grilling of Daley</p>


	<p><i> On September 27, eight days ago, the first press reports revealed that Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Lieberman said he would be willing to meet with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has called Judaism, Lieberman&#8217;s faith, a &#8220;gutter religion.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> In an interview with April Ryan of the American Urban Radio Networks, Lieberman said, &#8220;Look, Minister Farrakhan said a few things earlier in the campaign that were just not informed. But I have respect for him, and I have respect for the Muslim community generally.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> Where&#8217;s the furor? The story first came on Wednesday from the Philadelphia Inquirer&#8217;s Jodi Enda and hit the Knight-Ridder national wire. <span class="caps">USA </span>Today mentioned it. Ryan questioned President Clinton about it in a briefing aired live on <span class="caps">CNN</span>. Clinton seemed surprised: &#8220;I didn&#8217;t understand. What did you say about Joe Lieberman and Louis Farrakhan?&#8221; When Ryan explained that &#8220;Joe Lieberman told me yesterday&#8221; that he would meet with Farrakhan, Clinton only said, &#8220;Well, if anybody has got the standing to do it, he certainly does.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> That night, Ryan appeared on Fox&#8217;s O&#8217;Reilly Factor. Host Bill O&#8217;Reilly asked if she challenged Lieberman on his statement. She said yes: &#8220;He said, but it&#8217;s time for us to come together. And he&#8217;s trying to win. That&#8217;s basically what it is. He wants to win an election and the African-American vote is crucial.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> Last Thursday, the story was picked up by <span class="caps">UPI</span> and the Associated Press in the tenth paragraph of a story on the upcoming &#8220;Million Family March.&#8221; On Friday, the Anti-Defamation League, whose earlier criticism of Lieberman for religious talk on the stump drew all-network coverage, warned Lieberman would be &#8220;legitimizing a bigot.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> It hit television on Sunday. On <span class="caps">NBC</span>&#8217;s Meet the Press, Tim Russert asked Rick Lazio if he&#8217;d meet with Farrakhan. (He said no.) On Fox News Sunday, Tony Snow asked Gore campaign chairman Bill Daley about Lieberman. &#8220;Does he do that with the Vice President&#8217;s blessing?&#8221; Daley said no, &#8220;Joe makes those decisions on his own. He obviously doesn&#8217;t have to get approval from Al Gore to have meetings.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> On Monday, AP reported its first full story on Lieberman&#8217;s remarks, based on criticism from <span class="caps">RNC </span>Chairman Jim Nicholson. On Tuesday, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen wrote about it, concluding, &#8220;It would be hard now for Lieberman to repudiate Farrakhan, but it would be harder still for us to respect someone who will not.&#8221;  </i></p>

	<p><i> But now, eight days in, let&#8217;s list who is still missing on this story: The New York Times. The Los Angeles Times. The Washington Post news pages. Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News &#038; World Report. <span class="caps">CBS</span>. CNN&#8217;s newscasts. <span class="caps">NBC</span>&#8217;s newscasts. <span class="caps">ABC</span> arrived this morning. Are the media being tough on both sides? Can a press corps that celebrated Lieberman&#8217;s faith now ignore it? </i> &#8212;Tim Graham</p>


	<p><a href="http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2000/20001005.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2000/20001005.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: JLL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m curious as to why does someone&#039;s pro-ness mean that they&#039;re anti anything.  Just because I&#039;m pro-black doesn&#039;t mean that I&#039;m anti-white, anti-Semitic or anti any other ethinic group.  It seems to me that if someone dare speak against, be it founded or unfounded claims, Jewish people then it is considered some form of hate and we quickly hear from the Anti-Defamation League who&#039;s issued a statement against this person.  BUT, when someone allows a slip of a tongue, such as about the sportscaster who suggested that the other players &quot;lynch Tiger Woods in a back alley&quot; then everyone is up in arms saying that Jesse Jackson et. al. is race baiting?

It appears to me that there is DEFINITELY a double standard.  If you speak against whites, Jews or anyone else who has a substantially fairer skin tone, then its considered a hate crime.  But, if you speak against African Americans, Latinos or any of the darker people of the world, then its protected by freedom of speech.

I just don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Now I&#8217;m curious as to why does someone&#8217;s pro-ness mean that they&#8217;re anti anything.  Just because I&#8217;m pro-black doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m anti-white, anti-Semitic or anti any other ethinic group.  It seems to me that if someone dare speak against, be it founded or unfounded claims, Jewish people then it is considered some form of hate and we quickly hear from the Anti-Defamation League who&#8217;s issued a statement against this person.  <span class="caps">BUT</span>, when someone allows a slip of a tongue, such as about the sportscaster who suggested that the other players &#8220;lynch Tiger Woods in a back alley&#8221; then everyone is up in arms saying that Jesse Jackson et. al. is race baiting?</p>

	<p>It appears to me that there is <span class="caps">DEFINITELY</span> a double standard.  If you speak against whites, Jews or anyone else who has a substantially fairer skin tone, then its considered a hate crime.  But, if you speak against African Americans, Latinos or any of the darker people of the world, then its protected by freedom of speech.</p>

	<p>I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Confronting Obama with a &#8216;Farrakhan Test&#8217; &#171; Uppity Negro Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confronting Obama with a &#8216;Farrakhan Test&#8217; &#171; Uppity Negro Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farrell gets the broader context exactly right. I strongly suspect that Barack Obama is being asked to condemn Louis Farrakhan not because [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Farrell gets the broader context exactly right. I strongly suspect that Barack Obama is being asked to condemn Louis Farrakhan not because [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Abelson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/15/six-degrees-of-louis-farrakhan/comment-page-2/#comment-224752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Abelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I wrote about it at The Warpublican Review:

&quot;Be it Mike Huckabee’s visit to Anti-Catholic Cornerstone Church, John McCain’s “gook” gaffe, Fred Thompson’s relationship with former senator (and Macaca Master) George Allen or Ron Paul’s racist and ranting Paulisms, there are many denouncements and explanations to be made, though only Obama pays the price.

The attention that Warpublicans have paid to Obama’s church and its leader Jeremiah Wright, and the concerted effort to connect Louis Farrakhan to the Obama campaign, reeks of a double standard and political intrigue, if not a low-grade racism, intended or not.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here&#8217;s what I wrote about it at The Warpublican Review:</p>

	<p>&#8220;Be it Mike Huckabee&#8217;s visit to Anti-Catholic Cornerstone Church, John McCain&#8217;s &#8220;gook&#8221; gaffe, Fred Thompson&#8217;s relationship with former senator (and Macaca Master) George Allen or Ron Paul&#8217;s racist and ranting Paulisms, there are many denouncements and explanations to be made, though only Obama pays the price.</p>

	<p>The attention that Warpublicans have paid to Obama&#8217;s church and its leader Jeremiah Wright, and the concerted effort to connect Louis Farrakhan to the Obama campaign, reeks of a double standard and political intrigue, if not a low-grade racism, intended or not.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HenryFarrell- &lt;i&gt;There are at least two kinds of racism – (1) a personal animus towards black/white/Jewish people...&lt;/i&gt;
More accurate to say each racist sentiment is unique to its bearer. Some inherited, some traumatically induced, some fashionable, some cathartic, some sadistic.
 Cohen probably doesn&#039;t have an itemizable animus in the public record because he lives and works and plays inside a fortress of security and filtered contacts. So he doesn&#039;t encounter any blacks who haven&#039;t been so thoroughly vetted by his social clads and their doormen and gatekeepers they might as well be brought fettered and chained into propriety. 
If he did, if he lived at the edge or inside one of the parallel worlds where most American blacks are living today, his chauvinist-driven racism would be much easier to graph. Art Speigelman did a nifty bit back in the 90&#039;s about his dad&#039;s anti-black racism (&quot;Dem schwartzers!&quot;)that illustrates that pretty well.
All this yadda about Farrakhan is part and parcel of the one true sword of public morality now - triangulation. Same with David Duke a while back. Everybody knows these are evil men, though the specifics of their evil don&#039;t get much confirmation, arriving as it does ready-made and established. Talking stink about Ward Churchill with basically only one out of context phrase to bolster smug complacency is the academist&#039;s version. 
Public, official, sanctioned racism&#039;s waxing and waning of acceptability is interesting if condemnatory - anti-Japanese hysteria during WW2 etc. We were all thinking we&#039;d out grown that, weren&#039;t we? Until 9/11 changed everything back again.
Cohen and his brothers-in-arms have produced a disgustingly unchallenged flood of anti-Muslim bigotry over the last decade or so, and the mediated American public has taken that bigotry into its bosom as its own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>HenryFarrell- <i>There are at least two kinds of racism &#8211; (1) a personal animus towards black/white/Jewish people&#8230;</i><br />
More accurate to say each racist sentiment is unique to its bearer. Some inherited, some traumatically induced, some fashionable, some cathartic, some sadistic.<br />
Cohen probably doesn&#8217;t have an itemizable animus in the public record because he lives and works and plays inside a fortress of security and filtered contacts. So he doesn&#8217;t encounter any blacks who haven&#8217;t been so thoroughly vetted by his social clads and their doormen and gatekeepers they might as well be brought fettered and chained into propriety.<br />
If he did, if he lived at the edge or inside one of the parallel worlds where most American blacks are living today, his chauvinist-driven racism would be much easier to graph. Art Speigelman did a nifty bit back in the 90&#8217;s about his dad&#8217;s anti-black racism (&#8220;Dem schwartzers!&#8221;)that illustrates that pretty well.<br />
All this yadda about Farrakhan is part and parcel of the one true sword of public morality now &#8211; triangulation. Same with David Duke a while back. Everybody knows these are evil men, though the specifics of their evil don&#8217;t get much confirmation, arriving as it does ready-made and established. Talking stink about Ward Churchill with basically only one out of context phrase to bolster smug complacency is the academist&#8217;s version.<br />
Public, official, sanctioned racism&#8217;s waxing and waning of acceptability is interesting if condemnatory &#8211; anti-Japanese hysteria during <span class="caps">WW2</span> etc. We were all thinking we&#8217;d out grown that, weren&#8217;t we? Until 9/11 changed everything back again.<br />
Cohen and his brothers-in-arms have produced a disgustingly unchallenged flood of anti-Muslim bigotry over the last decade or so, and the mediated American public has taken that bigotry into its bosom as its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a funny man for a supervillain, Berube.</description>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry (and other CTers), I seriously suggest you prophylactically ban Sailer now rather than waiting til after he&#039;s wrecked a dozen threads with his vile racist bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Henry (and other CTers), I seriously suggest you prophylactically ban Sailer now rather than waiting til after he&#8217;s wrecked a dozen threads with his vile racist bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: John Protevi</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/15/six-degrees-of-louis-farrakhan/comment-page-2/#comment-224716</link>
		<dc:creator>John Protevi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Remarkably, however, the candidate remains silent on “Cop Killer,” the recent rap song by “Iced Tea” that calls for the murder of police officers.&lt;/i&gt;

Nor has he, despite having visited Johns Hopkins University, made any comment on the Lancet articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Remarkably, however, the candidate remains silent on &#8220;Cop Killer,&#8221; the recent rap song by &#8220;Iced Tea&#8221; that calls for the murder of police officers.</i></p>

	<p>Nor has he, despite having visited Johns Hopkins University, made any comment on the Lancet articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is all well and good, but I need to know: what is Obama’s position on Michael Vick? And does he think O.J. is innocent or guilty? These are all relevant campaign issues.&lt;/i&gt;

The Obama campaign has now released statements denouncing Vick and O.J.  Remarkably, however, the candidate remains silent on &quot;Cop Killer,&quot; the recent rap song by &quot;Iced Tea&quot; that calls for the murder of police officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>This is all well and good, but I need to know: what is Obama&#8217;s position on Michael Vick? And does he think O.J. is innocent or guilty? These are all relevant campaign issues.</i></p>

	<p>The Obama campaign has now released statements denouncing Vick and O.J.  Remarkably, however, the candidate remains silent on &#8220;Cop Killer,&#8221; the recent rap song by &#8220;Iced Tea&#8221; that calls for the murder of police officers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blah:  &quot;It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Cohen did this as a favor to the Clintons at a crucial moment in the campaign&quot;

Not as a favor to them, but as a favor to himself.  Cohen is one of the hacks drooling at the prospect of a second Clinton administration, knowing that they can recycle all of the sh*t which wasn&#039;t even fit to print the first time.

Who wouldn&#039;t like a shot at 4-8 years of xeroxing your old work and getting paid big bucks for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>blah:  &#8220;It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me at all if Cohen did this as a favor to the Clintons at a crucial moment in the campaign&#8221;</p>

	<p>Not as a favor to them, but as a favor to himself.  Cohen is one of the hacks drooling at the prospect of a second Clinton administration, knowing that they can recycle all of the sh*t which wasn&#8217;t even fit to print the first time.</p>

	<p>Who wouldn&#8217;t like a shot at 4-8 years of xeroxing your old work and getting paid big bucks for it?</p>
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		<title>By: luci</title>
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		<dc:creator>luci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with katherine, way above - it&#039;s might be more of a &quot;Muslim&quot; thing than a black thing. Black militant Muslim, Obama. 

I think Cohen is a joke, as is the Washington Post. And it&#039;s not just the lying propagandist f#@ks on the editorial pages either, unfortunately. We need to discount almost everything they say, at least when it comes to foreign policy and the Middle East.

I don&#039;t really know why people were so sure that the media was treating Hillary unfairly a week or two ago. Hillary is their candidate. She&#039;s made the right hawk noises. Of course, the press can&#039;t resist the catty little digs at her, but she&#039;s still their candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with katherine, way above &#8211; it&#8217;s might be more of a &#8220;Muslim&#8221; thing than a black thing. Black militant Muslim, Obama.</p>

	<p>I think Cohen is a joke, as is the Washington Post. And it&#8217;s not just the lying propagandist f#@ks on the editorial pages either, unfortunately. We need to discount almost everything they say, at least when it comes to foreign policy and the Middle East.</p>

	<p>I don&#8217;t really know why people were so sure that the media was treating Hillary unfairly a week or two ago. Hillary is their candidate. She&#8217;s made the right hawk noises. Of course, the press can&#8217;t resist the catty little digs at her, but she&#8217;s still their candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for a decade or two to pass and we can make everyone denounce anyone who ever handshook one of the homophobe politicians currently running around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can&#8217;t wait for a decade or two to pass and we can make everyone denounce anyone who ever handshook one of the homophobe politicians currently running around.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sailer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Sailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, nobody here has read Obama&#039;s 1995 autobiography &quot;Dreams from My Father.&quot; If you had read pages 274-295, which are mostly about the origin of Obama&#039;s relationship with Wright in the mid 1980s, you would know that Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. is not some minor figure in Obama&#039;s life. He is the most important man in Obama&#039;s life since his grandfather who raised him in Hawaii.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Clearly, nobody here has read Obama&#8217;s 1995 autobiography &#8220;Dreams from My Father.&#8221; If you had read pages 274-295, which are mostly about the origin of Obama&#8217;s relationship with Wright in the mid 1980s, you would know that Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. is not some minor figure in Obama&#8217;s life. He is the most important man in Obama&#8217;s life since his grandfather who raised him in Hawaii.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cohen on Obama&#8217;s church &#124; Sam Levenback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Cohen on Obama&#8217;s church &#124; Sam Levenback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Henry Farrell responds: &#8230;church leaders and spiritual mentors can believe and say a lot of bizarre shit that you don’t yourself subscribe to (as a mostly lapsed Catholic, I speak from experience on this point). More specifically (to take a not-so-random example), Billy Graham, who made some unambiguously anti-Semitic remarks to Richard Nixon which ended up on tape, appears to have been a major figure in Hillary Clinton’s spiritual life (see also this speech made by Bill Clinton at the inauguration of Graham’s library last year). While nowhere close to Farrakhan’s league (he appears to have been a repentant and occasional anti-Semite rather than an unrepentant and consistent one), he was a direct influence on the Clintons rather than an influence-on-an-influence. I don’t recall Richard Cohen, or anyone else, muttering that there was no evidence that Hillary and Bill Clinton were anti-Semites, but that they needed to voice their outrage or else. And for good reason; any suggestion along these lines would have been treated as crazy. Knowing that Billy Graham was occasionally anti-Semitic doesn’t tell you anything about what Bill and Hillary Clinton believe. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Henry Farrell responds: &#8230;church leaders and spiritual mentors can believe and say a lot of bizarre shit that you don&#8217;t yourself subscribe to (as a mostly lapsed Catholic, I speak from experience on this point). More specifically (to take a not-so-random example), Billy Graham, who made some unambiguously anti-Semitic remarks to Richard Nixon which ended up on tape, appears to have been a major figure in Hillary Clinton&#8217;s spiritual life (see also this speech made by Bill Clinton at the inauguration of Graham&#8217;s library last year). While nowhere close to Farrakhan&#8217;s league (he appears to have been a repentant and occasional anti-Semite rather than an unrepentant and consistent one), he was a direct influence on the Clintons rather than an influence-on-an-influence. I don&#8217;t recall Richard Cohen, or anyone else, muttering that there was no evidence that Hillary and Bill Clinton were anti-Semites, but that they needed to voice their outrage or else. And for good reason; any suggestion along these lines would have been treated as crazy. Knowing that Billy Graham was occasionally anti-Semitic doesn&#8217;t tell you anything about what Bill and Hillary Clinton believe. [...]</p>
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