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	<title>Comments on: I only have trouble when one&#8217;s Irish and the other&#8217;s a professor</title>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/22/i-only-have-trouble-when-ones-irish-and-the-others-a-professor/comment-page-1/#comment-225726</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Senatorial Gofer, Jon, the answer is &quot;Yes&quot; and that we&#039;d all like to be paid more.

Of course, what they might be tarring Hillary for is that her staff is full of women, and is therefore, sapphic, once again confusing the homosocial with actual box eating. If this were a two way street, American football teams should be widely expected to be butt pirates. (I say this as one of the latter group)

I will maintain, however, that the cultish, fervid behavior of Hillary&#039;s Staffers makes the rest of us Democrats look like shrinking violets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a Senatorial Gofer, Jon, the answer is &#8220;Yes&#8221; and that we&#8217;d all like to be paid more.</p>

	<p>Of course, what they might be tarring Hillary for is that her staff is full of women, and is therefore, sapphic, once again confusing the homosocial with actual box eating. If this were a two way street, American football teams should be widely expected to be butt pirates. (I say this as one of the latter group)</p>

	<p>I will maintain, however, that the cultish, fervid behavior of Hillary&#8217;s Staffers makes the rest of us Democrats look like shrinking violets.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>luke wrote:&quot;Jon, until I receive photographic evidence of her in plaid flannel, eating organic yogurt and rocking out to the Indigo Girls, or at Lilith Fair, I’m just going to say that she’s got an ugly, mannish haircut.&quot;

Yeah, I don&#039;t really buy it. The lamest are the &#039;rumors&#039; about her female assistant. OMG! The assistant answers the phone early in the morning and late in the evening! Er, isn&#039;t that standard for any Senator&#039;s gofer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>luke wrote:&#8221;Jon, until I receive photographic evidence of her in plaid flannel, eating organic yogurt and rocking out to the Indigo Girls, or at Lilith Fair, I&#8217;m just going to say that she&#8217;s got an ugly, mannish haircut.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t really buy it. The lamest are the &#8216;rumors&#8217; about her female assistant. <span class="caps">OMG</span>! The assistant answers the phone early in the morning and late in the evening! Er, isn&#8217;t that standard for any Senator&#8217;s gofer?</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, #30. Like I said: everyone needs a pair of those magic sunglasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Right, #30. Like I said: everyone needs a pair of those magic sunglasses.</p>
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		<title>By: LCautioin</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCautioin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting is that the same pundits who  assume it is natural for Blacks to vote for Obama get upset about women who vote for Hillary because she is a woman.

As for me, after months &amp; months of agonizing, I&#039;ve just about decided for sure to vote for Hillary.  Not because she&#039;s a woman but because if she wins, it will drive Andrew Sullivan, Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson (well, let&#039;s face it: the entire right wing) plud the webwide HDS sufferers nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What I find interesting is that the same pundits who  assume it is natural for Blacks to vote for Obama get upset about women who vote for Hillary because she is a woman.</p>

	<p>As for me, after months &#038; months of agonizing, I&#8217;ve just about decided for sure to vote for Hillary.  Not because she&#8217;s a woman but because if she wins, it will drive Andrew Sullivan, Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson (well, let&#8217;s face it: the entire right wing) plud the webwide <span class="caps">HDS</span> sufferers nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all feign surprise, no? Marked and unmarked categories. White = the standard/unmarked category; hence the marked category: &quot;people of color&quot;; &quot;The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People&quot;; etc. So too male (standard/unmarked) and heterosexual. Bit of a mouthful, but white male heteronormativity is the order of the day in most Western, settler-colonial states. Deviations are marked and othered. I learned it in Cultural Studies 101. 

Gotta love the elision of the Amerindian peoples (i.e., their continental ethnic cleansing and depopulation) in Obama&#039;s rousing and hopeful Manifest Exceptionalism: 

&quot;It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail
toward freedom through the darkest of nights.

Yes we can.

It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and
pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.

Yes we can.&quot;


He may be black but the racist and genocidal foundations of the nation-state are game for his hopeful amnesiac-pieties  too. Little wonder his stance on the regime Desmond Tutu calls a &quot;worse than apartheid&quot; state (Israel) is indistinguishable from the most frothy of neocons. Gotta toe the colonial-settler, Western expansionist line(s) to be Prez, black, yellow, or blue. One line in the church of MLK Jr on a Sunday and another for AIPAC and the Council on Foreign Relations on working days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Y&#8217;all feign surprise, no? Marked and unmarked categories. White = the standard/unmarked category; hence the marked category: &#8220;people of color&#8221;; &#8220;The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People&#8221;; etc. So too male (standard/unmarked) and heterosexual. Bit of a mouthful, but white male heteronormativity is the order of the day in most Western, settler-colonial states. Deviations are marked and othered. I learned it in Cultural Studies 101.</p>

	<p>Gotta love the elision of the Amerindian peoples (i.e., their continental ethnic cleansing and depopulation) in Obama&#8217;s rousing and hopeful Manifest Exceptionalism:</p>

	<p>&#8220;It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail<br />
toward freedom through the darkest of nights.</p>

	<p>Yes we can.</p>

	<p>It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and<br />
pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.</p>

	<p>Yes we can.&#8221;</p>


	<p>He may be black but the racist and genocidal foundations of the nation-state are game for his hopeful amnesiac-pieties  too. Little wonder his stance on the regime Desmond Tutu calls a &#8220;worse than apartheid&#8221; state (Israel) is indistinguishable from the most frothy of neocons. Gotta toe the colonial-settler, Western expansionist line(s) to be Prez, black, yellow, or blue. One line in the church of <span class="caps">MLK </span>Jr on a Sunday and another for <span class="caps">AIPAC</span> and the Council on Foreign Relations on working days.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Republicans are set on the idea that Hil’s a lesbian, so there’s that.&quot;

Jon, until I receive photographic evidence of her in plaid flannel, eating organic yogurt and rocking out to the Indigo Girls, or at Lilith Fair, I&#039;m just going to say that she&#039;s got an ugly, mannish haircut.

Then again, being married to Bill could turn anyone from carrot sticks to onion rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The Republicans are set on the idea that Hil&#8217;s a lesbian, so there&#8217;s that.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Jon, until I receive photographic evidence of her in plaid flannel, eating organic yogurt and rocking out to the Indigo Girls, or at Lilith Fair, I&#8217;m just going to say that she&#8217;s got an ugly, mannish haircut.</p>

	<p>Then again, being married to Bill could turn anyone from carrot sticks to onion rings.</p>
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		<title>By: vivian</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;@15: &quot;it is, in fact, a lot more likely (and legitimate) that a black person’s vote should be affected by the desire to elect the first black president, or a woman by the desire to affect the first woman president, than that a white man will be getting all excited about continuing the record streak.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, that explains why so few white men run for office, &lt;strike&gt;spend  &lt;/strike&gt;  waste their private fortunes, give money to others and run private vote-caging operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>@15: &#8220;it is, in fact, a lot more likely (and legitimate) that a black person&#8217;s vote should be affected by the desire to elect the first black president, or a woman by the desire to affect the first woman president, than that a white man will be getting all excited about continuing the record streak.&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>Hey, that explains why so few white men run for office, <strike>spend  </strike>  waste their private fortunes, give money to others and run private vote-caging operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/22/i-only-have-trouble-when-ones-irish-and-the-others-a-professor/comment-page-1/#comment-225245</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Besides, where’s my gay candidate? Not all of us get to vote in Idaho or South Carolina!&quot;

The Republicans are set on the idea that Hil&#039;s a lesbian, so there&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Besides, where&#8217;s my gay candidate? Not all of us get to vote in Idaho or South Carolina!&#8221;</p>

	<p>The Republicans are set on the idea that Hil&#8217;s a lesbian, so there&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a gay, I can assure everyone that no pictures of Hillary are &quot;hot.&quot; No Venn Diagram for her, no sir.

Besides, where&#039;s my gay candidate? Not all of us get to vote in Idaho or South Carolina!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a gay, I can assure everyone that no pictures of Hillary are &#8220;hot.&#8221; No Venn Diagram for her, no sir.</p>

	<p>Besides, where&#8217;s my gay candidate? Not all of us get to vote in Idaho or South Carolina!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; as if men have no gender and whites have no race&lt;/i&gt;

But this is whole damn point y&#039;see.  When a major news broadcaster (and every other damn broadcaster) can apparently be completely oblivious to the fact that they treat white and male as the default state of existence, it illustrates how little has really changed.  It&#039;s more than driving me crazy, it&#039;s depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i> as if men have no gender and whites have no race</i></p>

	<p>But this is whole damn point y&#8217;see.  When a major news broadcaster (and every other damn broadcaster) can apparently be completely oblivious to the fact that they treat white and male as the default state of existence, it illustrates how little has really changed.  It&#8217;s more than driving me crazy, it&#8217;s depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: CJColucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJColucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Looks a little like Nina Hartley.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;

You&#039;re right, I see the resemblance.  Nina is still working, by the way, well into middle age.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Looks a little like Nina Hartley.</i><i></i></p>

	<p>You&#8217;re right, I see the resemblance.  Nina is still working, by the way, well into middle age.</p>
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		<title>By: amrood</title>
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		<dc:creator>amrood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more concerned with social security and health coverage [issues] but unfortunately the fuss has been about experience vs. change [whatever that suppose to mean] or black man vs. woman. It&#039;s made a big deal in the US about choosing a woman leader.  We did it in a Pakistan back in the 90s [twice].  Bhutto was no different than her male counterparts.  Same is true in other countries that had female leaders.  Sadly, the media isn&#039;t covering the issues  

At the end of the day, both are Clinton Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am more concerned with social security and health coverage [issues] but unfortunately the fuss has been about experience vs. change [whatever that suppose to mean] or black man vs. woman. It&#8217;s made a big deal in the US about choosing a woman leader.  We did it in a Pakistan back in the 90s [twice].  Bhutto was no different than her male counterparts.  Same is true in other countries that had female leaders.  Sadly, the media isn&#8217;t covering the issues</p>

	<p>At the end of the day, both are Clinton Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s far and away the hottest picture of Hillary Clinton I’ve seen.&quot;

Looks a little like Nina Hartley.

gag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s far and away the hottest picture of Hillary Clinton I&#8217;ve seen.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Looks a little like Nina Hartley.</p>

	<p>gag.</p>
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		<title>By: CJColucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJColucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s far and away the hottest picture of Hillary Clinton I&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s far and away the hottest picture of Hillary Clinton I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 - That could be the basis for a pretty funny article in the satirical &quot;&lt;em&gt;The Onion&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - something like &quot;Area Yellow-Dog Democrats torn between discomfort with blacks, women&quot; (&quot;Trog Lydite has been a conservative Democrat all his life. But with the current front-runners, he now finds himself faced with a uncomfortable choice  ...&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#15 &#8211; That could be the basis for a pretty funny article in the satirical &#8220;<em>The Onion</em>&#8221; &#8211; something like &#8220;Area Yellow-Dog Democrats torn between discomfort with blacks, women&#8221; (&#8220;Trog Lydite has been a conservative Democrat all his life. But with the current front-runners, he now finds himself faced with a uncomfortable choice  &#8230;&#8221;)</p>
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