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	<title>Comments on: National Histories</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Stephanides</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-226160</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Stephanides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claims of post-WWII Stalinist propaganda that everything was invented in Russia were well-known enough to be satirized in &lt;i&gt;Pogo&lt;/i&gt;. In one sequence, the Communist cowbirds claim that baseball was invented in Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The claims of post-WWII Stalinist propaganda that everything was invented in Russia were well-known enough to be satirized in <i>Pogo</i>. In one sequence, the Communist cowbirds claim that baseball was invented in Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: notsneaky</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225965</link>
		<dc:creator>notsneaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thomas Paine...
... Ur-socialist (welfare, income equality, social security).&lt;/i&gt;

Also an ardent free trader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Thomas Paine&#8230;<br />
&#8230; Ur-socialist (welfare, income equality, social security).</i></p>

	<p>Also an ardent free trader.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry (not the famous one)</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225909</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry (not the famous one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since others are posting both here and out West, let me repeat myself:

(1) Ella Baker–who not only was there throughout every critical stage of the civil rights movement, but played a critical role in it in more ways than one.

(2) E.D. Nixon of Montgomery, Alabama. A. Philip Randolph already has a movie and a shelf of books about him. Nixon exemplifies what being a member of the Brotherhood allowed activists to do in the depths of the Deep South during the 40’s and 50’s.

(3) Rose Schneiderman, whose life traces the arc from sweatshops and the Uprising of the 20,000 to New Deal reformism, with some detours through the class-based fissures in early feminism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And since others are posting both here and out West, let me repeat myself:</p>

	<p>(1) Ella Baker&#8211;who not only was there throughout every critical stage of the civil rights movement, but played a critical role in it in more ways than one.</p>

	<p>(2) E.D. Nixon of Montgomery, Alabama. A. Philip Randolph already has a movie and a shelf of books about him. Nixon exemplifies what being a member of the Brotherhood allowed activists to do in the depths of the Deep South during the 40&#8217;s and 50&#8217;s.</p>

	<p>(3) Rose Schneiderman, whose life traces the arc from sweatshops and the Uprising of the 20,000 to New Deal reformism, with some detours through the class-based fissures in early feminism.</p>
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		<title>By: SamChevre</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225778</link>
		<dc:creator>SamChevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone knows the name, but what about Florence Nightingale?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Everyone knows the name, but what about Florence Nightingale?</p>
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		<title>By: SGEW</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225728</link>
		<dc:creator>SGEW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;… who’s the most important … [American] historical figure about whom most people know nothing?&lt;/i&gt;

I humbly put forth the name of Thomas Paine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_paine
(note: wiki artickle contains recently disputed biographical details. Hope someone (who isn&#039;t as lazy as me) updates it soon)

The catalyst for the American Revolution. Coined the phrase &quot;The United States of America.&quot; Originator of &quot;constitutionalism&quot; and many modern human rights ideals. Arguably the 18th century&#039;s biggest best-seller (American revolutionaries usually owned only the Bible and &quot;Common Sense&quot;). Participated in both the American and French Revolutions (and had an abortive attempt at a British one as well). Invented the first entirely metal stanchion-less bridge and a smokeless candle. Ur-socialist (welfare, income equality, social security). Lived his entire life in poverty. Later vilified for his open Deism (Teddy Roosevelt inaccurately called him a &quot;filthy little atheist&quot;). Oh, and he fought pirates(!) when he was a young man.

Advocated women&#039;s suffrage; the abolition of slavery, the death penalty, and animal cruelty; and recognizing the sovereignty of aboriginal tribal nations;  . . . in &lt;i&gt;1774&lt;/i&gt;. Only one of the &quot;founding fathers&quot; who would be labeled &quot;liberal&quot; or &quot;progressive&quot; nowadays (eat it, Jefferson: you owned slaves). 

Obviously, I&#039;m rather fond of the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230; who&#8217;s the most important &#8230; [American] historical figure about whom most people know nothing?</i></p>

	<p>I humbly put forth the name of Thomas Paine.</p>

	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_paine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_paine</a><br />
(note: wiki artickle contains recently disputed biographical details. Hope someone (who isn&#8217;t as lazy as me) updates it soon)</p>

	<p>The catalyst for the American Revolution. Coined the phrase &#8220;The United States of America.&#8221; Originator of &#8220;constitutionalism&#8221; and many modern human rights ideals. Arguably the 18th century&#8217;s biggest best-seller (American revolutionaries usually owned only the Bible and &#8220;Common Sense&#8221;). Participated in both the American and French Revolutions (and had an abortive attempt at a British one as well). Invented the first entirely metal stanchion-less bridge and a smokeless candle. Ur-socialist (welfare, income equality, social security). Lived his entire life in poverty. Later vilified for his open Deism (Teddy Roosevelt inaccurately called him a &#8220;filthy little atheist&#8221;). Oh, and he fought pirates(!) when he was a young man.</p>

	<p>Advocated women&#8217;s suffrage; the abolition of slavery, the death penalty, and animal cruelty; and recognizing the sovereignty of aboriginal tribal nations;  . . . in <i>1774</i>. Only one of the &#8220;founding fathers&#8221; who would be labeled &#8220;liberal&#8221; or &#8220;progressive&#8221; nowadays (eat it, Jefferson: you owned slaves).</p>

	<p>Obviously, I&#8217;m rather fond of the guy.</p>
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		<title>By: mmm...lemonheads</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225722</link>
		<dc:creator>mmm...lemonheads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask me: Who invented sarcasm?

I did.  I invented sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ask me: Who invented sarcasm?</p>

	<p>I did.  I invented sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225687</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonardo da Vinci invented everything there is to invent.</description>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225686</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Archytas invented the rocket/airplane in 400 BC. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archytas


Right I&#039;m going out now. I may be some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh and Archytas invented the rocket/airplane in 400 BC.</p>

	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archytas" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archytas</a></p>


	<p>Right I&#8217;m going out now. I may be some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei McDonald</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225685</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexei McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn me, but that Smedley Butler book would fit a gap on my bookshelf nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Damn me, but that Smedley Butler book would fit a gap on my bookshelf nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225684</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;he certainly got there before Darwin did. He simply didn’t hit upon natural selection as the explanation for it

I suppose you could also say that about Anaximander.&#039;

According to some people, Empedocles not only agreed with Anaximander&#039;s evolutionary viewpoint but was the first person (so far as we know) to propose natural selection. 

&#039;Empedocles even suggested a form of natural selection, which Aristotle summarized as, &quot;Wherever then all the parts came about [to be] just what they would have been if they had come to be for an end, such things survived, being organized spontaneously in a fitting way; whereas those which grew otherwise perished and continue to perish.&#039;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;he certainly got there before Darwin did. He simply didn&#8217;t hit upon natural selection as the explanation for it</p>

	<p>I suppose you could also say that about Anaximander.&#8217;</p>

	<p>According to some people, Empedocles not only agreed with Anaximander&#8217;s evolutionary viewpoint but was the first person (so far as we know) to propose natural selection.</p>

	<p>&#8216;Empedocles even suggested a form of natural selection, which Aristotle summarized as, &#8220;Wherever then all the parts came about [to be] just what they would have been if they had come to be for an end, such things survived, being organized spontaneously in a fitting way; whereas those which grew otherwise perished and continue to perish.&#8217;</p>

	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hidari</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225682</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the steam engine was invented by  
Hero of Alexandria. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria

As you would know if you spent a bit less of your time reading these new fangled &#039;books&#039; and spent just a bit more time doing something constructive: like watching reruns of QI on Channel Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, the steam engine was invented by<br />
Hero of Alexandria.</p>

	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria</a></p>

	<p>As you would know if you spent a bit less of your time reading these new fangled &#8216;books&#8217; and spent just a bit more time doing something constructive: like watching reruns of QI on Channel Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225681</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivan Polzunov invented the steam engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ivan Polzunov invented the steam engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Who&#8217;s the most important Chinese historical figure that most people have never heard of?</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225677</link>
		<dc:creator>Who&#8217;s the most important Chinese historical figure that most people have never heard of?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] call was then much discussed in the comments section of his own blog, and then picked up by others and given the old internet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] call was then much discussed in the comments section of his own blog, and then picked up by others and given the old internet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jsm fotherington-thomas</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225643</link>
		<dc:creator>jsm fotherington-thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have the books to hand to check this, but didn&#039;t the curriculum at St Custard&#039;s reveal that Stalin invented the steam engine. 

Perhaps amongst you there is a Willans &amp; Searle expert, hem hem, wot mite be able to enlighten me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t have the books to hand to check this, but didn&#8217;t the curriculum at St Custard&#8217;s reveal that Stalin invented the steam engine.</p>

	<p>Perhaps amongst you there is a Willans &#038; Searle expert, hem hem, wot mite be able to enlighten me.</p>
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		<title>By: DonBoy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/01/24/national-histories/comment-page-1/#comment-225639</link>
		<dc:creator>DonBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody versed in the original Star Trek series would be unaware of this joke, which was given to Ensign Chekov on various occasions (our pals at Wikipedia list nine).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nobody versed in the original Star Trek series would be unaware of this joke, which was given to Ensign Chekov on various occasions (our pals at Wikipedia list nine).</p>
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