Comments on: Going viral http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:27:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bro. Bartleby http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227353 Bro. Bartleby Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:39:28 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227353 I can picture Joseph Goebbels watching and smiling and saying, "Very interesting ... where is Leni? She must see this!" I can picture Joseph Goebbels watching and smiling and saying, “Very interesting … where is Leni? She must see this!”

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227166 abb1 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:25:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227166 Never mind, I was probably wrong. It's just that I hate stupid identity politics. Never mind, I was probably wrong. It’s just that I hate stupid identity politics.

]]> By: seth edenbaum http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227139 seth edenbaum Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:34:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227139 "Seth, I got the impression" from where? “Seth, I got the impression”

from where?

]]> By: wolfgang http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227098 wolfgang Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:56:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227098 to follow up on my comment #15: it seems that the song did the job (at least for now) ... to follow up on my comment #15: it seems that the song did the job (at least for now) …

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227079 abb1 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:26:18 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227079 Seth, I got the impression that he only won the black vote in deep south - Alabama, Georgia, the Carolinas. That's a very specific and very different variety of black culture, church-going, god-fearing, authority-respecting, bowtie-wearing folks. It's not very significant, I don't think. Otherwise - Idaho??? Alaska??? Friggin Kansas??? It is incredible. I dunno, maybe Clinton-hatred out there is much stronger than we realize. Seth, I got the impression that he only won the black vote in deep south – Alabama, Georgia, the Carolinas. That’s a very specific and very different variety of black culture, church-going, god-fearing, authority-respecting, bowtie-wearing folks. It’s not very significant, I don’t think.

Otherwise – Idaho??? Alaska??? Friggin Kansas??? It is incredible. I dunno, maybe Clinton-hatred out there is much stronger than we realize.

]]> By: Seth Edenbaum http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227070 Seth Edenbaum Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:03:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227070 Abb kiddo, read <a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/177218.php" rel="nofollow">this</a>. The rest of you too. Abb kiddo, read this.
The rest of you too.

]]> By: Seth Edenbaum http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227066 Seth Edenbaum Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:56:29 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227066 "The man is inspiring" Oh jezuz... He's auditioning for a job as <i>our employee</i> idiot, not our savior. “The man is inspiring”
Oh jezuz…
He’s auditioning for a job as our employee idiot, not our savior.

]]> By: Marc http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227045 Marc Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:41:16 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227045 The man is inspiring, and the intensely sour comments by abb1 indicate only that he doesn't get it. I guess that he's still hoping that the revolution will come if we accentuate the contradictions. The man is inspiring, and the intensely sour comments by abb1 indicate only that he doesn’t get it. I guess that he’s still hoping that the revolution will come if we accentuate the contradictions.

]]> By: Elaine http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227044 Elaine Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:22:48 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227044 I saw it as a post from one of my Facebook contacts. The video is feed from YouTube, but embedded in the Facebook interface. I saw it as a post from one of my Facebook contacts. The video is feed from YouTube, but embedded in the Facebook interface.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227014 abb1 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:48:11 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227014 What I'm seeing in the news is him being endorsed by a bunch of Kennedys and people like Alec Baldwin. A lot of excitement among various rich paleolibs and college students. Also those (mostly politicians) hurrying to join the more popular team. Nothing's wrong with any of that, of course. FWIW, I heard Jesse Jackson recently trying to endorse him in the most un-enthusiastic way possible and volunteering that his wife likes Clinton more. I just don't get the same impression you do, sorry. What I’m seeing in the news is him being endorsed by a bunch of Kennedys and people like Alec Baldwin. A lot of excitement among various rich paleolibs and college students. Also those (mostly politicians) hurrying to join the more popular team. Nothing’s wrong with any of that, of course. FWIW, I heard Jesse Jackson recently trying to endorse him in the most un-enthusiastic way possible and volunteering that his wife likes Clinton more.

I just don’t get the same impression you do, sorry.

]]> By: s.e. http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227012 s.e. Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:17:14 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227012 "So, you’ve been captivated by the fad, so, fine, enjoy it while it lasts" I'm not captivated by anything about the politics of this country Abb [Obama on Israeli expansionism? At least as bad as everyone else and probably worse] I'm making an observation about the current response to Obama in the black community, and the divisions between the old school leadership and the younger generation. I could be wrong, who knows? But you're spouting ideas based on old reports and preconceptions, and arguing for the sake of defending those, and what else, your own honor? It's not about where Obama went to school it's about how he's perceived. I don't have to like the man much to pay attention. “So, you’ve been captivated by the fad, so, fine, enjoy it while it lasts”

I’m not captivated by anything about the politics of this country Abb [Obama on Israeli expansionism? At least as bad as everyone else and probably worse] I’m making an observation about the current response to Obama in the black community, and the divisions between the old school leadership and the younger generation. I could be wrong, who knows? But you’re spouting ideas based on old reports and preconceptions, and arguing for the sake of defending those, and what else, your own honor?
It’s not about where Obama went to school it’s about how he’s perceived. I don’t have to like the man much to pay attention.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227009 abb1 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:00:47 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227009 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School" rel="nofollow">Punahou School</a> Punahou School

]]> By: Jon H http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-227001 Jon H Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:37:13 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-227001 "I used to work with dark-skinned recent immigrants from India, and they were nothing like dark-skinned Americans, nothing in common whatsoever. So what?" Uh, it's culture. Obama grew up as a black kid in America. Not in India. You're talking like Obama is himself from Kenya, grew up out of the country, and has no experience of what it means to be black in the US. Which is not the case. “I used to work with dark-skinned recent immigrants from India, and they were nothing like dark-skinned Americans, nothing in common whatsoever. So what?”

Uh, it’s culture.

Obama grew up as a black kid in America. Not in India. You’re talking like Obama is himself from Kenya, grew up out of the country, and has no experience of what it means to be black in the US. Which is not the case.

]]> By: Andrea http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-226994 Andrea Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:15:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-226994 I found it because one of my internet friends emailed it to our email chat group. I found it because one of my internet friends emailed it to our email chat group.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/comment-page-2/#comment-226989 abb1 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:38:30 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/03/going-viral/#comment-226989 I see Obama <i>trying</i> to move into that territory - very slowly and carefully and ready to retreat at any moment. His "we can all get along" mantra doesn't even impress <i>me</i> - hey, it doesn't even impress Paul Krugman! - let alone people in the Bronx. So, you've been captivated by the fad, so, fine, enjoy it while it lasts. I see Obama trying to move into that territory – very slowly and carefully and ready to retreat at any moment. His “we can all get along” mantra doesn’t even impress me – hey, it doesn’t even impress Paul Krugman! – let alone people in the Bronx. So, you’ve been captivated by the fad, so, fine, enjoy it while it lasts.

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