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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/04/skibbereen-eagle-how-are-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-227021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the pollsters first missed the mark in Iowa, the social media research company I work for decided to see if the blogosphere was as wrong as the traditional media. Using a more primitive version of our current methodology, we were pleasantly surprised to see that a measurement of blog sentiment and activity would have correctly (if narrowly) predicted an Obama win. Our theory as to why this is: people so engaged in the political process that they publicly blog about their favorite candidates could fairly represent those who are engaged enough to vote in the primaries and caucuses at all. We followed 5 states for Super Tuesday and made overall and specific predictions, which can be found here, if you’re interested:

http://blog.collectiveintellect.com/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-blogosphere-predicts-mccain-obama-as-winners/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When the pollsters first missed the mark in Iowa, the social media research company I work for decided to see if the blogosphere was as wrong as the traditional media. Using a more primitive version of our current methodology, we were pleasantly surprised to see that a measurement of blog sentiment and activity would have correctly (if narrowly) predicted an Obama win. Our theory as to why this is: people so engaged in the political process that they publicly blog about their favorite candidates could fairly represent those who are engaged enough to vote in the primaries and caucuses at all. We followed 5 states for Super Tuesday and made overall and specific predictions, which can be found here, if you&#8217;re interested:</p>

	<p><a href="http://blog.collectiveintellect.com/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-blogosphere-predicts-mccain-obama-as-winners/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.collectiveintellect.com/2008/02/05/super-tuesday-blogosphere-predicts-mccain-obama-as-winners/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was clearly a joke, but although I feel a little guilty at the cheapness of laughing at bad English, it&#039;s a pretty well-done parody.  And I wouldn&#039;t call it &quot;warmed-over Borat&quot; because it&#039;s far more prudish and Justin Smith makes the wise decision to stick to politics, or a version thereof.

For comparison, read Eduard Limonov in the Exile.

In fact, concerning annoying precedents, I sense more of a kinship to that narrator/driver in &lt;i&gt;Everything is Illuminated&lt;/i&gt;, although this is an older and, as I said, more political voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It was clearly a joke, but although I feel a little guilty at the cheapness of laughing at bad English, it&#8217;s a pretty well-done parody.  And I wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;warmed-over Borat&#8221; because it&#8217;s far more prudish and Justin Smith makes the wise decision to stick to politics, or a version thereof.</p>

	<p>For comparison, read Eduard Limonov in the Exile.</p>

	<p>In fact, concerning annoying precedents, I sense more of a kinship to that narrator/driver in <i>Everything is Illuminated</i>, although this is an older and, as I said, more political voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/04/skibbereen-eagle-how-are-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-226977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novakant @18,

there was a French comedy show back in the late 80s, IIRC, that had a character (an actual American, I belive) whose shtick was speaking French with an exaggerated American accent.[FN1] So yes, this is pretty much one of those universals, I think.

[FN1] And as such, completely unrealistic. As everybody knows, Americans cannot speak French &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt;, but do so in flawless Parisian accents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Novakant @18,</p>

	<p>there was a French comedy show back in the late 80s, <span class="caps">IIRC</span>, that had a character (an actual American, I belive) whose shtick was speaking French with an exaggerated American accent.[FN1] So yes, this is pretty much one of those universals, I think.</p>

	<p>[FN1] And as such, completely unrealistic. As everybody knows, Americans cannot speak French <i>at all</i>, but do so in flawless Parisian accents.</p>
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		<title>By: novakant</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/04/skibbereen-eagle-how-are-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-226965</link>
		<dc:creator>novakant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never liked Borat - he crossed the fine line between satire and defamation.

That said, the non-english speaking world makes fun of english-only speakers all the time, particularly Americans, as captured in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTe5GOYGz8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;timeless classic&lt;/a&gt;; it&#039;s just that for obvious reasons they don&#039;t notice it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Never liked Borat &#8211; he crossed the fine line between satire and defamation.</p>

	<p>That said, the non-english speaking world makes fun of english-only speakers all the time, particularly Americans, as captured in this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTe5GOYGz8" rel="nofollow">timeless classic</a>; it&#8217;s just that for obvious reasons they don&#8217;t notice it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/04/skibbereen-eagle-how-are-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-226964</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One clue that it isn&#039;t real was Justin Smith&#039;s by-line at the top.

Lemuel @4,

of course mocking foreigners&#039; funny English can degenerate into outright xenophobia. So yes, I can see how one might have some slight uneasiness with the practice. But there&#039;s no need for that uneasiness, I think, where the foreigners themselves are holding themsleves out as accomplished English-speakers, as for example in the case of &lt;i&gt;English As She Is Spoke&lt;/i&gt;; or in the case of an official translation from a government ministry, had that been what the 3QD piece really was (but, so infinitely sadly, was not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One clue that it isn&#8217;t real was Justin Smith&#8217;s by-line at the top.</p>

	<p>Lemuel @4,</p>

	<p>of course mocking foreigners&#8217; funny English can degenerate into outright xenophobia. So yes, I can see how one might have some slight uneasiness with the practice. But there&#8217;s no need for that uneasiness, I think, where the foreigners themselves are holding themsleves out as accomplished English-speakers, as for example in the case of <i>English As She Is Spoke</i>; or in the case of an official translation from a government ministry, had that been what the 3QD piece really was (but, so infinitely sadly, was not).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke -- to quibble in return:  My statement was that &quot;FDR won 3 elections in a row before the US entered the war&quot;, and your comment does not contradict this. 

In any case, those of us from the Eastern Hemisphere would put the start of that Second World War well before August 1939.  Japanese fascist troops occupied China in July 1937, and there had been sporadic fighting between the two countries through the 1930s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Luke&#8212;to quibble in return:  My statement was that &#8220;FDR won 3 elections in a row before the US entered the war&#8221;, and your comment does not contradict this.</p>

	<p>In any case, those of us from the Eastern Hemisphere would put the start of that Second World War well before August 1939.  Japanese fascist troops occupied China in July 1937, and there had been sporadic fighting between the two countries through the 1930s.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, to quibble: FDR won two elections prior to the war. The Fall of France solidified his 1940 run, and to a degree, his 1940 victory once Wilkie was the nominee. It&#039;s certainly a wartime election, though US troops weren&#039;t marching and American bombs weren&#039;t falling (from American planes).

Just &#039;cause I&#039;m a lil contrarian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Peter, to quibble: <span class="caps">FDR</span> won two elections prior to the war. The Fall of France solidified his 1940 run, and to a degree, his 1940 victory once Wilkie was the nominee. It&#8217;s certainly a wartime election, though US troops weren&#8217;t marching and American bombs weren&#8217;t falling (from American planes).</p>

	<p>Just &#8216;cause I&#8217;m a lil contrarian</p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I thought it was hilarious.  But I was the guy at the Borat movie who was laughing so hard he almost choked to death.  I went with my teenage boys and every five minutes they had to elbow me in the ribs and say, DAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, I thought it was hilarious.  But I was the guy at the Borat movie who was laughing so hard he almost choked to death.  I went with my teenage boys and every five minutes they had to elbow me in the ribs and say, <span class="caps">DAD</span>!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The only president in American history to have held on his power more than two terms was Franklin Roosevelt. And he was cripple! He stayed long because of war-time situation, not strength. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, FDR won 3 elections in a row before the US entered the war, so I would credit a fair amount of his electoral appeal to &quot;strength&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;The only president in American history to have held on his power more than two terms was Franklin Roosevelt. And he was cripple! He stayed long because of war-time situation, not strength. </i></p>

	<p>Well, <span class="caps">FDR</span> won 3 elections in a row before the US entered the war, so I would credit a fair amount of his electoral appeal to &#8220;strength&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with bloix:  warmed-over Borat.  It&#039;s been done before (and before Sascha Baron Cohen did it, too), and it&#039;s never really that funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m with bloix:  warmed-over Borat.  It&#8217;s been done before (and before Sascha Baron Cohen did it, too), and it&#8217;s never really that funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Borat found a new job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Looks like Borat found a new job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lemuel pitkin: Actually, poking fun at foreigners who get your language wrong is an old and popular pastime in all countries. The Swedes, for example, like to poke fun at the Finns.

The fun stops when the foreigners are from an inglisj-spiking kåntri, though, in whits case we traj to adapt our way of spiking.

PS: Centrifuge man, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@lemuel pitkin: Actually, poking fun at foreigners who get your language wrong is an old and popular pastime in all countries. The Swedes, for example, like to poke fun at the Finns.</p>

	<p>The fun stops when the foreigners are from an inglisj-spiking k&#229;ntri, though, in whits case we traj to adapt our way of spiking.</p>

	<p>PS: Centrifuge man, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fake.  My link however, is gloriously real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s fake.  My link however, is gloriously real.</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is this really, really real? &lt;/i&gt;

No. Not even a little real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Is this really, really real? </i></p>

	<p>No. Not even a little real.</p>
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		<title>By: roac</title>
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		<dc:creator>roac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno.  Is this really, really real?  The &quot;I Heart Huckabee&#039;s&quot; reference seems too good to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I dunno.  Is this really, really real?  The &#8220;I Heart Huckabee&#8217;s&#8221; reference seems too good to be true.</p>
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