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		<title>By: jesus orzo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228369</link>
		<dc:creator>jesus orzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When classroom frustrations build up, it must be very empowering for a student to know that when you graduate you can get the president canned. I bet that&#039;s why William &amp; Mary managed to avoid the mass murders that happen in most second-rate Virginia state schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When classroom frustrations build up, it must be very empowering for a student to know that when you graduate you can get the president canned. I bet that&#8217;s why William &#038; Mary managed to avoid the mass murders that happen in most second-rate Virginia state schools.</p>
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		<title>By: T C</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228271</link>
		<dc:creator>T C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, the article states: &quot;a dispute over a cross he had removed from a prominent campus building&quot;, when in fact, the prominent building was the oldest active Chapel on a University in America. 

Mr. Ellis contemplates life in America with &quot;Crazy Conservatives&quot;. Leaves me to wonder, why is it that Progressives appear to embrace only their &quot;Unilateral Equal Justice System&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting, the article states: &#8220;a dispute over a cross he had removed from a prominent campus building&#8221;, when in fact, the prominent building was the oldest active Chapel on a University in America.</p>

	<p>Mr. Ellis contemplates life in America with &#8220;Crazy Conservatives&#8221;. Leaves me to wonder, why is it that Progressives appear to embrace only their &#8220;Unilateral Equal Justice System&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228266</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Orson, for stopping by here as well as the IHE thread, and thanks also for not referencing Ward Churchill and Johnson and Taylor&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Until Proven Innocent&lt;/i&gt; on the Duke lacrosse case, as you did there.  I do think (as I suggested above) it&#039;s fair to compare Nichol and Summers -- with, of course, the proviso that one of those cases involved a nationwide wingnut-media outrage-generator to try to get a college president ousted, and the other involved a nationwide wingnut-media outrage-generator to protest a college president&#039;s ouster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Orson, for stopping by here as well as the <span class="caps">IHE</span> thread, and thanks also for not referencing Ward Churchill and Johnson and Taylor&#8217;s <i>Until Proven Innocent</i> on the Duke lacrosse case, as you did there.  I do think (as I suggested above) it&#8217;s fair to compare Nichol and Summers&#8212;with, of course, the proviso that one of those cases involved a nationwide wingnut-media outrage-generator to try to get a college president ousted, and the other involved a nationwide wingnut-media outrage-generator to protest a college president&#8217;s ouster.</p>
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		<title>By: Orson Buggeigh</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228248</link>
		<dc:creator>Orson Buggeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nichol was a failure as an administrator.  Like the under-qualified Alberto Gonzalez as Attorney General, it appears that he was hired less for his managerial skills than his political beliefs.  Nichol was asked to leave the University of Colorado and University of North Carolina.  With his track record, one has to wonder why W&amp;M hired him in the first place.  

His lack of the needed talents to be a successful university president is obvious from his manner of leaving.  Like corporate executives, academic managers are generally hired to serve at the pleasure of their board, and can be non-renewed or flat out fired if the board loses confidence in them.  A financial parachute - think severance package - is generally part of this understanding.  The guy goes quietly, and takes the check if his contract isn&#039;t renewed.  The university doesn&#039;t bad mouth him, and doesn&#039;t go out of its way to publicize why he&#039;s being let go, so his chances of getting another administrative position are better.  With any luck, an administrator learns from such an unsuccessful experience, and does a better job in his next place of employment.  Nichol did just the opposite by trying to claim the severance package was &#039;hush money&#039; or a bribe.  It was inappropriate, and it demonstrates clearly how  unsuited he is for an administrative position.   His behavior also shows that he learned nothing from his previous experience at CU and UNC.   

Nichol was no martyr for free speech, either.  The experience at W&amp;M appears to be like many universities:  Speech codes and star chamber courts to enforce them; hostility toward some religions, and acceptance of others.  His unequal treatment of differing political and philosophical perspectives upset some of the W&amp;M stakeholders, and they took their complaints to the board, who acted on them.  Not much different from the situation at Harvard.  A controversial president offended a group that had enough political pull on the board to get him removed.  Nothing new, or terribly unusual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nichol was a failure as an administrator.  Like the under-qualified Alberto Gonzalez as Attorney General, it appears that he was hired less for his managerial skills than his political beliefs.  Nichol was asked to leave the University of Colorado and University of North Carolina.  With his track record, one has to wonder why W&#038;M hired him in the first place.</p>

	<p>His lack of the needed talents to be a successful university president is obvious from his manner of leaving.  Like corporate executives, academic managers are generally hired to serve at the pleasure of their board, and can be non-renewed or flat out fired if the board loses confidence in them.  A financial parachute &#8211; think severance package &#8211; is generally part of this understanding.  The guy goes quietly, and takes the check if his contract isn&#8217;t renewed.  The university doesn&#8217;t bad mouth him, and doesn&#8217;t go out of its way to publicize why he&#8217;s being let go, so his chances of getting another administrative position are better.  With any luck, an administrator learns from such an unsuccessful experience, and does a better job in his next place of employment.  Nichol did just the opposite by trying to claim the severance package was &#8216;hush money&#8217; or a bribe.  It was inappropriate, and it demonstrates clearly how  unsuited he is for an administrative position.   His behavior also shows that he learned nothing from his previous experience at CU and <span class="caps">UNC</span>.</p>

	<p>Nichol was no martyr for free speech, either.  The experience at W&#038;M appears to be like many universities:  Speech codes and star chamber courts to enforce them; hostility toward some religions, and acceptance of others.  His unequal treatment of differing political and philosophical perspectives upset some of the W&#038;M stakeholders, and they took their complaints to the board, who acted on them.  Not much different from the situation at Harvard.  A controversial president offended a group that had enough political pull on the board to get him removed.  Nothing new, or terribly unusual.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228229</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is tailor-made for Prof Berube. Professor, are you working on it?&lt;/i&gt;

Uh, no it isn&#039;t and no I&#039;m not.  If it&#039;s a situation I know about only from reading the higher-ed press, I usually figure I don&#039;t have any special insight into it.  But I can say that the sex workers&#039; show has been something of a Wingnut Outrage Generator on other campuses.

Nichol&#039;s farewell email, together with the accounts of his management style, suggests that although Outer Wingnuttia (e.g., La Malkin) did indeed hound him for the usual culture-war reasons, he also lacked some key political skills.  In that respect, I wonder whether the campaign against him wasn&#039;t -- at least for some very dedicated wingnuts -- karmic payback for the downfall of their hero among bull-in-china-shop college presidents, Larry Summers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>This is tailor-made for Prof Berube. Professor, are you working on it?</i></p>

	<p>Uh, no it isn&#8217;t and no I&#8217;m not.  If it&#8217;s a situation I know about only from reading the higher-ed press, I usually figure I don&#8217;t have any special insight into it.  But I can say that the sex workers&#8217; show has been something of a Wingnut Outrage Generator on other campuses.</p>

	<p>Nichol&#8217;s farewell email, together with the accounts of his management style, suggests that although Outer Wingnuttia (e.g., La Malkin) did indeed hound him for the usual culture-war reasons, he also lacked some key political skills.  In that respect, I wonder whether the campaign against him wasn&#8217;t&#8212;at least for some very dedicated wingnuts&#8212;karmic payback for the downfall of their hero among bull-in-china-shop college presidents, Larry Summers.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith M Ellis</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228198</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith M Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the comments from that link are terribly depressing.  I am losing my ability to tolerate living in this country with these crazy conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow, the comments from that link are terribly depressing.  I am losing my ability to tolerate living in this country with these crazy conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia Peabody</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228162</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia Peabody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three local papers, once all die-hard Nichol fans, have put out editorials recently that sum up best by his contract was not renewed. Please read them:

Daily Press: Nichol&#039;s Farewell: www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story

Virginia Gazette: End of an Error: http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg

Flat Hat: Nichol Lied, the Dream Died: www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Three local papers, once all die-hard Nichol fans, have put out editorials recently that sum up best by his contract was not renewed. Please read them:</p>

	<p>Daily Press: Nichol&#8217;s Farewell: <a href="http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story</a></p>

	<p>Virginia Gazette: End of an Error: <a href="http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg</a></p>

	<p>Flat Hat: Nichol Lied, the Dream Died: <a href="http://www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost" rel="nofollow">http://www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amelia Peabody</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228148</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia Peabody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three local editorials (all from big Nichol fans) sum up best the reasons for his non-renewal:

Daily Press: www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story 

Virginia Gazette: End of an Error : http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg

Flat Hat: Nichol lied, the Dream Died:  www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Three local editorials (all from big Nichol fans) sum up best the reasons for his non-renewal:</p>

	<p>Daily Press: <a href="http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_nichol_edit_0213feb13,0,7332211.story</a></p>

	<p>Virginia Gazette: End of an Error : <a href="http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkbruno.com/Feb%2013.%202008%20Gazette%20editorial%20End%20of%20an%20Error.jpg</a></p>

	<p>Flat Hat: Nichol lied, the Dream Died:  <a href="http://www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost" rel="nofollow">http://www.flathatnews.com/opinions/1588/with-released-e-mail-nichol-supporters-feel-lost</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228132</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is tailor-made for Prof Berube.  Professor, are you working on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is tailor-made for Prof Berube.  Professor, are you working on it?</p>
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		<title>By: SamChevre</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228124</link>
		<dc:creator>SamChevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

The most helpful thing about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/2008/02/nichol_and_dime.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Critical Mass article&lt;/a&gt; is the links; ignore the commentary if you want.

I&#039;ve now provided a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steve,</p>

	<p>The most helpful thing about the <a href="http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/2008/02/nichol_and_dime.html" rel="nofollow">Critical Mass article</a> is the links; ignore the commentary if you want.</p>

	<p>I&#8217;ve now provided a link.</p>
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		<title>By: mpowell</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228123</link>
		<dc:creator>mpowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way that working for the American Civil Liberties Union, at any time, makes you a crazy left winger.  The only thing crazy about working for the ACLU to me is that if I had gone to the trouble of becoming a lawyer, I would like to get paid like one.  I can see it as being a demerit whithin the conservative movement, but it is ridiculous that conservatives expect the population, generally, to view such gracious public service in a negative light.  But that&#039;s why the conservative movement is so successfull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I love the way that working for the American Civil Liberties Union, at any time, makes you a crazy left winger.  The only thing crazy about working for the <span class="caps">ACLU</span> to me is that if I had gone to the trouble of becoming a lawyer, I would like to get paid like one.  I can see it as being a demerit whithin the conservative movement, but it is ridiculous that conservatives expect the population, generally, to view such gracious public service in a negative light.  But that&#8217;s why the conservative movement is so successfull.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Bartow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Bartow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to read his good-bye e-mail if you haven&#039;t seen it:
http://feministlawprofs.law.sc.edu/?p=2998</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You might want to read his good-bye e-mail if you haven&#8217;t seen it:<br />
<a href="http://feministlawprofs.law.sc.edu/?p=2998" rel="nofollow">http://feministlawprofs.law.sc.edu/?p=2998</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve LaBonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve LaBonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Critical Mass has some useful detail also.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That being such an objective, non-ideological source, as we know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><blockquote>Critical Mass has some useful detail also.</blockquote>That being such an objective, non-ideological source, as we know.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloix</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/13/william-and-mary-firing/comment-page-1/#comment-228116</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you image-google &quot;wren cross&quot; you can see the thing he was fired over.  It&#039;s butt-ugly. Apparently it was donated in the 1930&#039;s (the chapel was built in 1732).  Someone less ham-handed than Nichol would have done an architectural study of the chapel and commissioned a restoration to its 18th-century historical condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you image-google &#8220;wren cross&#8221; you can see the thing he was fired over.  It&#8217;s butt-ugly. Apparently it was donated in the 1930&#8217;s (the chapel was built in 1732).  Someone less ham-handed than Nichol would have done an architectural study of the chapel and commissioned a restoration to its 18th-century historical condition.</p>
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		<title>By: eric- W&#38;M class of '94</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric- W&#38;M class of '94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree with samchevre that Nichol managed to anger/alienate every single group- certainly the contemprorary news coverage has made it clear that he is a well, although of course not universally, loved figure by the actual people on campus- students &amp; faculty.  also, there are many, many alumni- myself included who found Nichol to be the sort of leader we would hope for in a unversity as proud as William and Mary.  I would imagine there were some issues other than the obvious controversies that led to his dismissal (a non renewal of contract is a polite way of saying you&#039;re fired)  but for the Board of Visitors to suggest that conservative ideology did not play a part in the dismissal beggars belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would disagree with samchevre that Nichol managed to anger/alienate every single group- certainly the contemprorary news coverage has made it clear that he is a well, although of course not universally, loved figure by the actual people on campus- students &#038; faculty.  also, there are many, many alumni- myself included who found Nichol to be the sort of leader we would hope for in a unversity as proud as William and Mary.  I would imagine there were some issues other than the obvious controversies that led to his dismissal (a non renewal of contract is a polite way of saying you&#8217;re fired)  but for the Board of Visitors to suggest that conservative ideology did not play a part in the dismissal beggars belief.</p>
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