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		<title>By: Michael Bérubé</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-234094</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bérubé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Clever, Michael, but rather unfair.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I agree that that item of pro-Obama/Antichrist outrage is a tad, shall we say, manufactured.  But JP, I thought you told me the Internets were &lt;i&gt;invented&lt;/i&gt; for the &quot;clever but unfair&quot; genre of comment snark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Clever, Michael, but rather unfair.</i></p>

	<p>Actually, I agree that that item of pro-Obama/Antichrist outrage is a tad, shall we say, manufactured.  But JP, I thought you told me the Internets were <i>invented</i> for the &#8220;clever but unfair&#8221; genre of comment snark.</p>
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		<title>By: Western Dave</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233992</link>
		<dc:creator>Western Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  Comment 10:
To be fair, reading “most of his support, aside from black voters, was coming from the highly-educated” as “black voters and the highly-educated are mutually exclusive groups” seems extremely uncharitable. It seems pretty clear that the claim is that black voters of all levels of education support Obama, while mostly only the highly-educated segment of the non-black voting population do.

Except it doesn&#039;t hold true for Latino voters who tend to support Clinton at all education levels.  (I also think that is true of Asian voters but am less sure of that.)  By leaving the word white unstated it treats white as normative, which is, well, racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re:  Comment 10:<br />
To be fair, reading &#8220;most of his support, aside from black voters, was coming from the highly-educated&#8221; as &#8220;black voters and the highly-educated are mutually exclusive groups&#8221; seems extremely uncharitable. It seems pretty clear that the claim is that black voters of all levels of education support Obama, while mostly only the highly-educated segment of the non-black voting population do.</p>

	<p>Except it doesn&#8217;t hold true for Latino voters who tend to support Clinton at all education levels.  (I also think that is true of Asian voters but am less sure of that.)  By leaving the word white unstated it treats white as normative, which is, well, racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday links: Indecent exposure edition &#171; Red Telephone</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233911</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuesday links: Indecent exposure edition &#171; Red Telephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama most likely not the Antichrist // Crooked Timber [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[...] Obama most likely not the Antichrist // Crooked Timber [...]</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233845</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Say Antichrist Controversy To Distract Public From More Damning Is Obama Satan Question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Some Say Antichrist Controversy To Distract Public From More Damning Is Obama Satan Question</p>
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		<title>By: e julius drivingstorm</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233842</link>
		<dc:creator>e julius drivingstorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there were no antiChrist, man would have found it necessary to invent one.  (sorry, Neitzsche)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If there were no antiChrist, man would have found it necessary to invent one.  (sorry, Neitzsche)</p>
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		<title>By: MFB</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233840</link>
		<dc:creator>MFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely we cannot be certain who is the Antichrist until we know who the Democratic nominee is.

And, by the way, I thought Hillary was the Antichrist already!

Maybe Barack Obama is the antipope of the Antichrist!

And if he is the Antichrist, is he also anti-semitic?

I fear my head is going to explode. On, on, boats against the current, backwards into the future with the Angel of Internet History.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Surely we cannot be certain who is the Antichrist until we know who the Democratic nominee is.</p>

	<p>And, by the way, I thought Hillary was the Antichrist already!</p>

	<p>Maybe Barack Obama is the antipope of the Antichrist!</p>

	<p>And if he is the Antichrist, is he also anti-semitic?</p>

	<p>I fear my head is going to explode. On, on, boats against the current, backwards into the future with the Angel of Internet History.</p>
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		<title>By: terence</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233838</link>
		<dc:creator>terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;but many of the 1000+ commenters are serious&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ohhh...kaay. Can we please stop the planet now? I wanna get off. Things are starting to get scary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;but many of the 1000+ commenters are serious&#8221;</i></p>

	<p>Ohhh&#8230;kaay. Can we please stop the planet now? I wanna get off. Things are starting to get scary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233836</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Antichrist faces an electability issue, but has high name recognition amongst likely voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Antichrist faces an electability issue, but has high name recognition amongst likely voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233835</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the Antichrist beat McCain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can the Antichrist beat McCain?</p>
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		<title>By: JP Stormcrow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233834</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Stormcrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, there goes the hexakosioihexekontahexaphobe vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yep, there goes the hexakosioihexekontahexaphobe vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackmormon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233832</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As apostropher&#039;s thread suggests, a couple of years ago this &quot;barack obama is the antichrist&quot; thing sort of spontaneously generated from cranks&#039; heads. These days, it seems to be bubbling up from more and more places. Ridiculous as it is, I&#039;m starting to fear that it&#039;s some sort of barmy whisper campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As apostropher&#8217;s thread suggests, a couple of years ago this &#8220;barack obama is the antichrist&#8221; thing sort of spontaneously generated from cranks&#8217; heads. These days, it seems to be bubbling up from more and more places. Ridiculous as it is, I&#8217;m starting to fear that it&#8217;s some sort of barmy whisper campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: lemuel pitkin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233830</link>
		<dc:creator>lemuel pitkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly 30 comments and no one has yet linked to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apostropher.com/blog/archives/001712.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;definitive discussion&lt;/a&gt; of the Obama-antichrist connection? 

(Not to mention, one of the all-time great comments threads. Three and half years old and still going strong.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nearly 30 comments and no one has yet linked to the <a href="http://www.apostropher.com/blog/archives/001712.html" rel="nofollow">definitive discussion</a> of the Obama-antichrist connection?</p>

	<p>(Not to mention, one of the all-time great comments threads. Three and half years old and still going strong.)</p>
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		<title>By: JP Stormcrow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233828</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Stormcrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;OK, I’ll stop now.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t worry, I&#039;ve got your back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>OK, I&#8217;ll stop now.</i></p>

	<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;ve got your back.</p>
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		<title>By: JP Stormcrow</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233827</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Stormcrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;which is easily the slimiest part of Clinton’s responses,&lt;/i&gt;

Which clause is easily the slimiest part of your comment.

&lt;i&gt;because that is how the transcript – yes, the whole transcript – reads.&lt;/i&gt;

Ok fine, but then really include the whole transcript including her further clarifying unequivocal statement and the absolute asshattery of the questioning. And further yet, watch a clip and see what is really going on. Look I am in support of Obama and think that Hillary has gone a bit of the deep end, but this one is pretty much total fucking bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>which is easily the slimiest part of Clinton&#8217;s responses,</i></p>

	<p>Which clause is easily the slimiest part of your comment.</p>

	<p><i>because that is how the transcript &#8211; yes, the whole transcript &#8211; reads.</i></p>

	<p>Ok fine, but then really include the whole transcript including her further clarifying unequivocal statement and the absolute asshattery of the questioning. And further yet, watch a clip and see what is really going on. Look I am in support of Obama and think that Hillary has gone a bit of the deep end, but this one is pretty much total fucking bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/24/of-course-one-cant-be-certain-but/comment-page-1/#comment-233824</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both are real. The one at my URL is a humor site, but many of the 1000+ commenters are serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Both are real. The one at my <span class="caps">URL</span> is a humor site, but many of the 1000+ commenters are serious.</p>
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