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	<title>Comments on: Riddles Wrapped in Mysteries Inside Enigmas</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Johnson/ cognitorex</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234917</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Johnson/ cognitorex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;Leverage&quot; An off off Wall Street Drama&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;Who&#039;s knocking on our door ?&quot; the CFO of a huge investment bank asked.
&quot;Why it&#039;s the government Banking Auditor. It&#039;s his day of the week to ask us to mark our assets to market.&quot;
&quot;Are we in shape for his visit?&quot;
&quot;Uhm, Yes and no. Sorta good news, bad news.&quot;
&quot;What&#039;s the good news?&quot;
&quot;We&#039;ve done the math and we figure our remaining mortgages on the books, good and bad, are worth $43 billion, so we&#039;re okay.&quot;
&quot;What&#039;s the bad news?&quot;
&quot;Uhm, well, nobody will buy any mortgage paper at the moment and some righteous auditors have been saying, no valid quotes, no value.&quot;
&quot;That&#039;s absurd. That would mean we have negative equity.&quot;
&quot;Shhh! He&#039;s leaving. Bernanke&#039;s got him on the phone.&quot;

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&lt;b&gt;The Crooked Citizen takes a Mortgage&lt;/b&gt;

John and Jane, brokers, sit in their mortgage originator store front office. They spy a couple reading their window adverts.
&quot;Come in, come in. And how are you lovely folks today?&quot;
&quot;Good.&quot; &quot;Good.&quot;
&quot;May we ask you if you rent or own?&quot;
&quot;Ah, you rent. $900 a month and it&#039;s tight. We see.&quot; (They huddle a moment.)
&quot;Folks, we&#039;ve assessed your case and our thinking is if you sign right here for a thousand a month mortgage, we&#039;ll see that you get a quarter of a million dollars to get that home you have your eye on. How&#039;s that?&quot;
&quot;Don&#039;t you have to write down all your credit card debt?&quot; &quot;No. Your application looks great, just as it is.&quot;
&quot;And what will your mortgage and mortgage rate be at the end of the initial term? No one can say for sure but the standard operating procedure is that you come back and refinance with the new higher value of your home&quot;. &quot;Everybody does, just SOP, right Jane?&quot;
&quot;SOP, everybody does.&quot;
&quot;You&#039;re curious how we get paid. Well, it comes from the lender&#039;s part of the deal. It isn&#039;t a lot but we get to put good folks in great homes. That&#039;s a big reward right there.&quot;
&quot;All set? See ya later. You&#039;re welcome, thank you.&quot;
John and Jane high five, laughing!
&quot;What a couple of con artists those two are, borrowing a quarter mil on their credit record.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>&#8220;Leverage&#8221; An off off Wall Street Drama</b></p>

	<p>&#8220;Who&#8217;s knocking on our door ?&#8221; the <span class="caps">CFO</span> of a huge investment bank asked.<br />
&#8220;Why it&#8217;s the government Banking Auditor. It&#8217;s his day of the week to ask us to mark our assets to market.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Are we in shape for his visit?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Uhm, Yes and no. Sorta good news, bad news.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What&#8217;s the good news?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ve done the math and we figure our remaining mortgages on the books, good and bad, are worth $43 billion, so we&#8217;re okay.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What&#8217;s the bad news?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Uhm, well, nobody will buy any mortgage paper at the moment and some righteous auditors have been saying, no valid quotes, no value.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s absurd. That would mean we have negative equity.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Shhh! He&#8217;s leaving. Bernanke&#8217;s got him on the phone.&#8221;</p>

	<p><i></i>_____________________</p>

	<p><b>The Crooked Citizen takes a Mortgage</b></p>

	<p>John and Jane, brokers, sit in their mortgage originator store front office. They spy a couple reading their window adverts.<br />
&#8220;Come in, come in. And how are you lovely folks today?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Good.&#8221; &#8220;Good.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;May we ask you if you rent or own?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Ah, you rent. $900 a month and it&#8217;s tight. We see.&#8221; (They huddle a moment.)<br />
&#8220;Folks, we&#8217;ve assessed your case and our thinking is if you sign right here for a thousand a month mortgage, we&#8217;ll see that you get a quarter of a million dollars to get that home you have your eye on. How&#8217;s that?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t you have to write down all your credit card debt?&#8221; &#8220;No. Your application looks great, just as it is.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;And what will your mortgage and mortgage rate be at the end of the initial term? No one can say for sure but the standard operating procedure is that you come back and refinance with the new higher value of your home&#8221;. &#8220;Everybody does, just <span class="caps">SOP</span>, right Jane?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;SOP, everybody does.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;re curious how we get paid. Well, it comes from the lender&#8217;s part of the deal. It isn&#8217;t a lot but we get to put good folks in great homes. That&#8217;s a big reward right there.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;All set? See ya later. You&#8217;re welcome, thank you.&#8221;<br />
John and Jane high five, laughing!<br />
&#8220;What a couple of con artists those two are, borrowing a quarter mil on their credit record.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: shteve</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234849</link>
		<dc:creator>shteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To round off my &quot;do nothing&quot; comment (#8):

“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.”

Not me - Andrew Jackson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To round off my &#8220;do nothing&#8221; comment (#8):</p>

	<p>&#8220;Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.&#8221;</p>

	<p>Not me &#8211; Andrew Jackson</p>
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		<title>By: SamChevre</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamChevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to &quot;it helps a lot if the regulators believe in the rules&quot;; it is worth noting that it also helps if the rules make reasonable sense (and aren&#039;t, for example, an attempt by existing institutions to handicap new entrants, like many insurance reserving rules; or designed before secure electronic communication was normal, like many banks&#039; check-crediting rules.)  If the rules don&#039;t make sense, sensible people won&#039;t believe in them; they have to be enforced either by not-sensible people, or by people who know they are stupid and will focus on paper compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>With regard to &#8220;it helps a lot if the regulators believe in the rules&#8221;; it is worth noting that it also helps if the rules make reasonable sense (and aren&#8217;t, for example, an attempt by existing institutions to handicap new entrants, like many insurance reserving rules; or designed before secure electronic communication was normal, like many banks&#8217; check-crediting rules.)  If the rules don&#8217;t make sense, sensible people won&#8217;t believe in them; they have to be enforced either by not-sensible people, or by people who know they are stupid and will focus on paper compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234501</link>
		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting sleight of hand in the Bush administration&#039;s regulatory &quot;response&quot; to the credit crisis in the increase in discretion permitted to regulators acting according to vague &quot;principles,&quot; and the diminution of formal regulatory structure. This is exactly what a corrupt government would seek: shifting power from the strictures of explicit laws to the discretion of pliable men. 

These people are shameless knaves, and because the US public has normalized dishonesty, their mischief is brazenly described as &quot;reform.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The interesting sleight of hand in the Bush administration&#8217;s regulatory &#8220;response&#8221; to the credit crisis in the increase in discretion permitted to regulators acting according to vague &#8220;principles,&#8221; and the diminution of formal regulatory structure. This is exactly what a corrupt government would seek: shifting power from the strictures of explicit laws to the discretion of pliable men.</p>

	<p>These people are shameless knaves, and because the US public has normalized dishonesty, their mischief is brazenly described as &#8220;reform.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: MarkUp</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234439</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BC - &quot;It helps to have regulators who believe in the legitimacy of the regulations they are charged with implementing—it produces less knavery and corruption.

This means that the regulatory reform response to the current mess will come in two stages, if it happens at all:...&quot;

Well, the current admin was able to re-corral a whole lot of goodness in to  DHS as well as revamp the Intelligence [sic] collection folks structure, so it would be unwise to wonder if it will happen, just how bad it will be.  Perhaps if the &#039;regulators&#039; had a capitalistic incentive that surpassed the revolving doors and favors, or even just saw some real punishment happen with what they do find now, they would be mo properly motivated.  Remember, if they pull off Paulson&#039;s plan right the ice trucks will be there* when needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">BC </span>- &#8220;It helps to have regulators who believe in the legitimacy of the regulations they are charged with implementing&#8212;it produces less knavery and corruption.</p>

	<p>This means that the regulatory reform response to the current mess will come in two stages, if it happens at all:&#8230;&#8221;</p>

	<p>Well, the current admin was able to re-corral a whole lot of goodness in to  <span class="caps">DHS</span> as well as revamp the Intelligence [sic] collection folks structure, so it would be unwise to wonder if it will happen, just how bad it will be.  Perhaps if the &#8216;regulators&#8217; had a capitalistic incentive that surpassed the revolving doors and favors, or even just saw some real punishment happen with what they do find now, they would be mo properly motivated.  Remember, if they pull off Paulson&#8217;s plan right the ice trucks will be there* when needed.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;hh—I’ve heard marching around outdoors with a giant sign that says “repent the end is near” is good fun AND sometimes provides a suntan to boot. You may want to look into it.&lt;/i&gt;

Repentance is called for, but also a rediscovery of serviceable old words relegated to the attic of political correctness. Words like WICKEDNESS, THEFT, LYING, and CIVIC DUTY need a good airing and reintroduction into common parlance. 

What amuses me in these discussions is the resolute insistance on the invariant character of American homo economicus, as though his/her character has not deteriorated markedly since Reagan. We have gone from Great Society to Grifter Society in one generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>hh&#8212;I&#8217;ve heard marching around outdoors with a giant sign that says &#8220;repent the end is near&#8221; is good fun <span class="caps">AND</span> sometimes provides a suntan to boot. You may want to look into it.</i></p>

	<p>Repentance is called for, but also a rediscovery of serviceable old words relegated to the attic of political correctness. Words like <span class="caps">WICKEDNESS</span>, THEFT, <span class="caps">LYING</span>, and <span class="caps">CIVIC DUTY</span> need a good airing and reintroduction into common parlance.</p>

	<p>What amuses me in these discussions is the resolute insistance on the invariant character of American homo economicus, as though his/her character has not deteriorated markedly since Reagan. We have gone from Great Society to Grifter Society in one generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234437</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kuzma -- Those
responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked
have been sacked?  Sounds a bit Montypythonesque.  

I personally think these are the kinds of functions for which we the people elect a gummint, rather than wheels within wheels of private-sector guarantors of accountability, the gears of which always turn out to be a bit too greasy.

hh -- I&#039;ve heard marching around outdoors with a giant sign that says &quot;repent the end is near&quot; is good fun AND sometimes provides a suntan to boot.  You may want to look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>kuzma&#8212;Those<br />
responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked<br />
have been sacked?  Sounds a bit Montypythonesque.</p>

	<p>I personally think these are the kinds of functions for which we the people elect a gummint, rather than wheels within wheels of private-sector guarantors of accountability, the gears of which always turn out to be a bit too greasy.</p>

	<p>hh&#8212;I&#8217;ve heard marching around outdoors with a giant sign that says &#8220;repent the end is near&#8221; is good fun <span class="caps">AND</span> sometimes provides a suntan to boot.  You may want to look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Kuzma</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234436</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Kuzma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obvious solution is a new set of ratings agencies that rate ratings agencies.  That will solve the information imbalance, and if not, then certainly another layer of ratings agencies will.

Secondly, you may be using a technical definition of irrational, but as someone who was involved in the real-estate business first-hand during this period I don&#039;t think the behavior qualified for the more general definition.  Consistently lowering interest rates caused a surge of qualified buyers, driving up demand and correspondingly prices.  It may have been myopic to think 15% annual appreciation was here to stay, but that&#039;s more an example of information imbalance than irrationality.

Finally, what is your assessment of things like prosper.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The obvious solution is a new set of ratings agencies that rate ratings agencies.  That will solve the information imbalance, and if not, then certainly another layer of ratings agencies will.</p>

	<p>Secondly, you may be using a technical definition of irrational, but as someone who was involved in the real-estate business first-hand during this period I don&#8217;t think the behavior qualified for the more general definition.  Consistently lowering interest rates caused a surge of qualified buyers, driving up demand and correspondingly prices.  It may have been myopic to think 15% annual appreciation was here to stay, but that&#8217;s more an example of information imbalance than irrationality.</p>

	<p>Finally, what is your assessment of things like prosper.com?</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that people are missing a trick when they focus on the issuer-pay conflict of interest. It exists, sure, but conflicts also exist when investors pay, and at least issuer-pay ratings are public. The really dangerous conflict, which nobody seems to be picking up on, is that rating agencies have a vested interest in allowing/encouraging innovation in structures and products. The more ratable, and especially triple-A ratable, structures/products the more business they get, and they don&#039;t even have to bother with grubby favouritism. It&#039;s doubly dangerous because it bypassed the agencies&#039; undeniable strength - statistical analysis of historical credit performance. If the structure or product has no history, statistical analysis is useless. So they were forced to venture deeper into the world of assumptions and analsyis of factors outside their expertise, like liquidity or market value.

It was probably this conflict that led the agencies to grant triple-A ratings to products that turned out not to deserve them - CDOs of ABS (especially mezzanine ABS), SIVs, CPDOs etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think that people are missing a trick when they focus on the issuer-pay conflict of interest. It exists, sure, but conflicts also exist when investors pay, and at least issuer-pay ratings are public. The really dangerous conflict, which nobody seems to be picking up on, is that rating agencies have a vested interest in allowing/encouraging innovation in structures and products. The more ratable, and especially triple-A ratable, structures/products the more business they get, and they don&#8217;t even have to bother with grubby favouritism. It&#8217;s doubly dangerous because it bypassed the agencies&#8217; undeniable strength &#8211; statistical analysis of historical credit performance. If the structure or product has no history, statistical analysis is useless. So they were forced to venture deeper into the world of assumptions and analsyis of factors outside their expertise, like liquidity or market value.</p>

	<p>It was probably this conflict that led the agencies to grant triple-A ratings to products that turned out not to deserve them &#8211; CDOs of <span class="caps">ABS </span>(especially mezzanine <span class="caps">ABS</span>), SIVs, <span class="caps">CPD</span>Os etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Carruthers</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234432</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Carruthers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly appreciate the reactions to my post, and there is far more at play in your comments than I can hope to respond to. But a couple of thoughts particularly caught my eye because they raised the issue of whether regulatory reform can ever succeed if the regulatory machinery is subsequently operated by &quot;corrupt knaves&quot;. As many have noted, formal rules are one thing, implementation is another. If the person implementing a rule is ideologically opposed to that rule (for example, if a deregulatory zealot is put in charge of a regulatory body), then one is likely to get half-hearted, foot-dragging quasi-implementation at best, and at worst, outright subversion. Most regulations have enough flexibility and discretion built into them that an uncooperative regulator can do a really bad job, and still remain in formal compliance. It helps to have regulators who believe in the legitimacy of the regulations they are charged with implementing -- it produces less knavery and corruption. 

This means that the regulatory reform response to the current mess will come in two stages, if it happens at all: first, some new formal regulations or institutions will be put in place; and later on, someone will have to implement those regulations and inhabit those institutions. Both stages will matter in constituting the full regulatory response, although it is usually the first stage that gets most of the attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I certainly appreciate the reactions to my post, and there is far more at play in your comments than I can hope to respond to. But a couple of thoughts particularly caught my eye because they raised the issue of whether regulatory reform can ever succeed if the regulatory machinery is subsequently operated by &#8220;corrupt knaves&#8221;. As many have noted, formal rules are one thing, implementation is another. If the person implementing a rule is ideologically opposed to that rule (for example, if a deregulatory zealot is put in charge of a regulatory body), then one is likely to get half-hearted, foot-dragging quasi-implementation at best, and at worst, outright subversion. Most regulations have enough flexibility and discretion built into them that an uncooperative regulator can do a really bad job, and still remain in formal compliance. It helps to have regulators who believe in the legitimacy of the regulations they are charged with implementing&#8212;it produces less knavery and corruption.</p>

	<p>This means that the regulatory reform response to the current mess will come in two stages, if it happens at all: first, some new formal regulations or institutions will be put in place; and later on, someone will have to implement those regulations and inhabit those institutions. Both stages will matter in constituting the full regulatory response, although it is usually the first stage that gets most of the attention.</p>
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		<title>By: HH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pessimists who predict human extinction sometime this century point to wider and wider oscillations in the consequences of human error. If you look at the size of the current US credit collapse it will be roughly a $1 trillion writeoff, as compared to $100 billion for the S&amp;L debacle. 

WWII was about four times more damaging than WWI in global fatalities, but a nuclear exchange involving even a few hundred warheads will kill a vastly greater number of people. The selfish gene has conserved traits of predation and destructive ideological problem simplification that are disastrous when coupled with the magnifying effects of global electronic and nuclear technologies. As we built increasingly powerful, unstable, and dangerous technologies, we have failed to build a better human beast, and our beastly instincts may well destroy us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The pessimists who predict human extinction sometime this century point to wider and wider oscillations in the consequences of human error. If you look at the size of the current US credit collapse it will be roughly a $1 trillion writeoff, as compared to $100 billion for the S&#038;L debacle.</p>

	<p><span class="caps">WWII</span> was about four times more damaging than <span class="caps">WWI</span> in global fatalities, but a nuclear exchange involving even a few hundred warheads will kill a vastly greater number of people. The selfish gene has conserved traits of predation and destructive ideological problem simplification that are disastrous when coupled with the magnifying effects of global electronic and nuclear technologies. As we built increasingly powerful, unstable, and dangerous technologies, we have failed to build a better human beast, and our beastly instincts may well destroy us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.B. --

:)</description>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234428</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But, R.B.&lt;/i&gt;

Paying less attention to me makes me feel smarter.

I blame that stupid energy drink and the fingers that type dumb things when I clearly intended to type smart things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But, R.B.</i></p>

	<p>Paying less attention to me makes me feel smarter.</p>

	<p>I blame that stupid energy drink and the fingers that type dumb things when I clearly intended to type smart things.</p>
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		<title>By: mq</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234427</link>
		<dc:creator>mq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; It will take about a decade to flush the remaining knaves out of all the institutions they invaded during the Reagan/Bush “movement conservative” integrity collapse &lt;/i&gt;

I actually don&#039;t think this is just about movement conservatism. There were a lot of celebratory neoliberal assumptions about markets that got broad creedence across the whole political spectrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i> It will take about a decade to flush the remaining knaves out of all the institutions they invaded during the Reagan/Bush &#8220;movement conservative&#8221; integrity collapse </i></p>

	<p>I actually don&#8217;t think this is just about movement conservatism. There were a lot of celebratory neoliberal assumptions about markets that got broad creedence across the whole political spectrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/31/riddles-wrapped-in-mysteries-inside-enigmas/comment-page-1/#comment-234426</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, R.B. -- in the case of an auto mechanic, first, everyone is explicitly aware that bribery is a risk of the car inspection system.  If a particular shop takes bribes to hand out inspection passes and thus has a higher than normal pass rate,  they will attract the notice of the authorities and be fined or prevented from continuing to provide auto inspection tags etc.  No one expects that to be a system that will work on its own without checks, since yes -- the people paying for the inspection want a thumbs up, not a thumbs down, and might be willing to pay extra to get it or go to a shop known to give everybody a pass. In the case of these ratings agencies, the attitude I take it was -- &quot;they are doing a great job that is great and that does not require external oversight yaaaaay!&quot;  ie, a damn stupid attitude.

Second, if you just mean -- I pay an auto mechanic to fix my car, sure, but the point is it&#039;s not in my interest to have the auto mechanic NOT tell me my brakes are out such that I die in a horrible accident.  for one thing, I won&#039;t go back again afterward, obviously, for more services.  In the case of the ratings agencies, it is actually in the payer&#039;s interest for the payee to say &quot;wow, things are just great!&quot; and the payer will therefore go back again and again for the same sunshiney message that enables them to sell their crappy bonds at a higher price than they warrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But, R.B.&#8212;in the case of an auto mechanic, first, everyone is explicitly aware that bribery is a risk of the car inspection system.  If a particular shop takes bribes to hand out inspection passes and thus has a higher than normal pass rate,  they will attract the notice of the authorities and be fined or prevented from continuing to provide auto inspection tags etc.  No one expects that to be a system that will work on its own without checks, since yes&#8212;the people paying for the inspection want a thumbs up, not a thumbs down, and might be willing to pay extra to get it or go to a shop known to give everybody a pass. In the case of these ratings agencies, the attitude I take it was&#8212;&#8220;they are doing a great job that is great and that does not require external oversight yaaaaay!&#8221;  ie, a damn stupid attitude.</p>

	<p>Second, if you just mean&#8212;I pay an auto mechanic to fix my car, sure, but the point is it&#8217;s not in my interest to have the auto mechanic <span class="caps">NOT</span> tell me my brakes are out such that I die in a horrible accident.  for one thing, I won&#8217;t go back again afterward, obviously, for more services.  In the case of the ratings agencies, it is actually in the payer&#8217;s interest for the payee to say &#8220;wow, things are just great!&#8221; and the payer will therefore go back again and again for the same sunshiney message that enables them to sell their crappy bonds at a higher price than they warrant.</p>
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