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	<title>Comments on: Iraqi interpreters coming to Australia</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: john i</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235592</link>
		<dc:creator>john i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having first hand family experience of the situation of Iraqi refugees in Amman, many of whom had worked with American forces, I am ashamed at the absolutely glacial pace and tiny scope of what the US is doing for these people.  They are truly stuck.  Many are working on the black market as cab drivers and trying not to get deported back by the Jordanians while the US takes months and years to triple check that all who apply for refugee status never had any sort of Baath ties, never mind their very dangerous service to the US cause.  Bah.

-j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having first hand family experience of the situation of Iraqi refugees in Amman, many of whom had worked with American forces, I am ashamed at the absolutely glacial pace and tiny scope of what the US is doing for these people.  They are truly stuck.  Many are working on the black market as cab drivers and trying not to get deported back by the Jordanians while the US takes months and years to triple check that all who apply for refugee status never had any sort of Baath ties, never mind their very dangerous service to the US cause.  Bah.</p>

	<p>-j</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235580</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...America is still attempting to ‘spread’ it [civilization], for better or for worse.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s your interpretation. More obvious interpretation would be that &#039;America&#039; (the Bushies, that is) don&#039;t give a hoot about translators or civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;America is still attempting to &#8216;spread&#8217; it [civilization], for better or for worse.</i></p>

	<p>That&#8217;s your interpretation. More obvious interpretation would be that &#8216;America&#8217; (the Bushies, that is) don&#8217;t give a hoot about translators or civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Sk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235578</link>
		<dc:creator>Sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;please go away&lt;/em&gt;
 
Sk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>please go away</em></p>

	<p>Sk</p>
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		<title>By: Shan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235559</link>
		<dc:creator>Shan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@6 &quot;wasn’t the point to build an independent country&quot;

I think that _became_ the selling point. I seem to recall us marching off to war because Saddam posed this imminent WMD threat &amp;c. &amp;c.

You have to smile because the alternatives are pretty grim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>@6 &#8220;wasn&#8217;t the point to build an independent country&#8221;</p>

	<p>I think that <em>became</em> the selling point. I seem to recall us marching off to war because Saddam posed this imminent <span class="caps">WMD</span> threat &#038;c. &#038;c.</p>

	<p>You have to smile because the alternatives are pretty grim!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235557</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While supporting wholeheartedly the adherence of Australian government to its commitment to these people who helped soldiers in difficult time &amp; place, I cannot help but wonder... doesn&#039;t this totally defeat the purpose? wasn&#039;t the point to build an independent country, not one which the soldiers and anyone who is associated with them would have to flee sooner or later...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While supporting wholeheartedly the adherence of Australian government to its commitment to these people who helped soldiers in difficult time &#038; place, I cannot help but wonder&#8230; doesn&#8217;t this totally defeat the purpose? wasn&#8217;t the point to build an independent country, not one which the soldiers and anyone who is associated with them would have to flee sooner or later&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235556</link>
		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I looked high and low for a certified translator of Farsi and in the Boston area it should be a snap&lt;/i&gt;

Greensmile, I&#039;m not a lawyer, but are you sure you really need a certified translator? Translate it yourself, have someone (anyone) confirm that the translation is correct and notarize his/her signature - and I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;ll count as a valid affidavit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I looked high and low for a certified translator of Farsi and in the Boston area it should be a snap</i></p>

	<p>Greensmile, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but are you sure you really need a certified translator? Translate it yourself, have someone (anyone) confirm that the translation is correct and notarize his/her signature &#8211; and I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;ll count as a valid affidavit.</p>
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		<title>By: Witt</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235547</link>
		<dc:creator>Witt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve probably linked this before, but the intense frustration of the glacial pace of US admitance of Iraqi refugees is compounded by their troubles locating employment, as illustrated &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0225/p02s04-usmi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;LEWISTON, Maine -  Safaa Wadi moved to this former mill city after his life was threatened in his native Iraq while serving as an interpreter for the US Army. He expects to soon head back to Iraq – not as a civilian interpreter, but as a US soldier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Wadi arrived in the United States in September with a special immigrant visa for Iraqi and Afghan interpreters. But with his savings nearly depleted and unable to land a decent job, Wadi enlisted in the Army.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve probably linked this before, but the intense frustration of the glacial pace of US admitance of Iraqi refugees is compounded by their troubles locating employment, as illustrated <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0225/p02s04-usmi.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>:</p>

	<p><blockquote><span class="caps">LEWISTON</span>, Maine &#8211;  Safaa Wadi moved to this former mill city after his life was threatened in his native Iraq while serving as an interpreter for the <span class="caps">US </span>Army. He expects to soon head back to Iraq &#8211; not as a civilian interpreter, but as a US soldier.</blockquote></p>

	<p><blockquote>Mr. Wadi arrived in the United States in September with a special immigrant visa for Iraqi and Afghan interpreters. But with his savings nearly depleted and unable to land a decent job, Wadi enlisted in the Army.</blockquote></p>
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		<title>By: greensmile</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235546</link>
		<dc:creator>greensmile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes US immigration policy and particularly US reluctance to take on Iraqis via refugee status look so stupid.

My employer has required me to get our marriage certificate translated for purposes of documenting legitimacy of insurance coverage for dependents. That is another stupidity in its own right and a vexation but I digress.  I looked high and low for a certified translator of Farsi and in the Boston area it should be a snap...but none found yet.  My old employers, SAIC, is absolutely begging for people literate in Arabic or Farsi to work in certain of its DC-area offices...you could make a damn nice wage just for knowing how to read if you could get through all the security clearance hoops.

I think Oz has just scored a windfall and should contact SAIC and other such US employers about outsourcing for skills the US denys itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This makes US immigration policy and particularly US reluctance to take on Iraqis via refugee status look so stupid.</p>

	<p>My employer has required me to get our marriage certificate translated for purposes of documenting legitimacy of insurance coverage for dependents. That is another stupidity in its own right and a vexation but I digress.  I looked high and low for a certified translator of Farsi and in the Boston area it should be a snap&#8230;but none found yet.  My old employers, <span class="caps">SAIC</span>, is absolutely begging for people literate in Arabic or Farsi to work in certain of its DC-area offices&#8230;you could make a damn nice wage just for knowing how to read if you could get through all the security clearance hoops.</p>

	<p>I think Oz has just scored a windfall and should contact <span class="caps">SAIC</span> and other such US employers about outsourcing for skills the US denys itself.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235542</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, another example perhaps of how Rudd is not quite the Tony Blair many cynical observers were expecting...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, another example perhaps of how Rudd is not quite the Tony Blair many cynical observers were expecting&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Sk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/09/iraqi-interpreters-coming-to-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-235535</link>
		<dc:creator>Sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Stupid snark from banned commenter deleted&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>Stupid snark from banned commenter deleted</em></p>
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