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	<title>Comments on: Stupid, stupid upgrade creatures</title>
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	<description>Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made</description>
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		<title>By: tmlbk</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235919</link>
		<dc:creator>tmlbk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me put in a good word for a LaTex solution consisting of MikTex, Lyx and BibTex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Let me put in a good word for a LaTex solution consisting of MikTex, Lyx and BibTex.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Paisley</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235857</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Paisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I just upgraded to MS-Office 2008 for mac. God help me. It’s such a common problem. Now how am I going to solve it?&lt;/i&gt;

Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I just upgraded to MS-Office 2008 for mac. God help me. It&#8217;s such a common problem. Now how am I going to solve it?</i></p>

	<p>Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H Schneider</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235855</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t that be caret, rather than karat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that be caret, rather than karat?</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235790</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Bookends as a biblio package. But as a general matter I tend to like obscure alternatives to market-dominant programs. For WP, I like NisusWriter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I like Bookends as a biblio package. But as a general matter I tend to like obscure alternatives to market-dominant programs. For WP, I like NisusWriter.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235711</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EndNote will do worse than not play well.  It won&#039;t play at all.  The head guy from MBU was at Ars answering questions and whoa there was a lot of hate.

On the other hand you can do macros in Python easily now which is arguably much better than VBA anyway.  But if you&#039;re trying to maintain macros it&#039;s a pain.

I keep hoping the new version of iWork comes out soon.  Numbers has a lot of promise but isn&#039;t there yet.  (It doesn&#039;t even support scripting yet)  Pages 2.0 is arguably better than Word for most things now though.  I rarely open up Word although I upgraded to 2008 just to use Excel and Applescript.  Although inexplicably Applescript in Excel 2004 allowed either Unix or old Sys9 styled path separators whereas Excel 2008 won&#039;t accept Unix paths at all.  You have to use colons (:) for all path separators!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>EndNote will do worse than not play well.  It won&#8217;t play at all.  The head guy from <span class="caps">MBU</span> was at Ars answering questions and whoa there was a lot of hate.</p>

	<p>On the other hand you can do macros in Python easily now which is arguably much better than <span class="caps">VBA</span> anyway.  But if you&#8217;re trying to maintain macros it&#8217;s a pain.</p>

	<p>I keep hoping the new version of iWork comes out soon.  Numbers has a lot of promise but isn&#8217;t there yet.  (It doesn&#8217;t even support scripting yet)  Pages 2.0 is arguably better than Word for most things now though.  I rarely open up Word although I upgraded to 2008 just to use Excel and Applescript.  Although inexplicably Applescript in Excel 2004 allowed either Unix or old Sys9 styled path separators whereas Excel 2008 won&#8217;t accept Unix paths at all.  You have to use colons (:) for all path separators<img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!</p>
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		<title>By: John Holbo</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235679</link>
		<dc:creator>John Holbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, what IS the best bibliography tool. I feel fairly locked into EndNote since I&#039;ve been creating a library over a period of years. But maybe there is something better out there. I have started using Zotero to take notes while surfing. But I haven&#039;t tried to generate MS-Word exportable stuff by means of it. (Is that actually possible?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, what IS the best bibliography tool. I feel fairly locked into EndNote since I&#8217;ve been creating a library over a period of years. But maybe there is something better out there. I have started using Zotero to take notes while surfing. But I haven&#8217;t tried to generate MS-Word exportable stuff by means of it. (Is that actually possible?)</p>
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		<title>By: ben wolfson</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235632</link>
		<dc:creator>ben wolfson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Still using Endnote? Zotero, dammit, Zotero!&lt;/em&gt;

ebib?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><em>Still using Endnote? Zotero, dammit, Zotero!</em></p>

	<p>ebib?</p>
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		<title>By: terence</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235611</link>
		<dc:creator>terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one good thing about Word 2008 for a PC is that, under referencing, it has its own equivalent of Endnote. It&#039;s not quite as good but seems, from first inspection, to work okish. 

Everything else is evil though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The one good thing about Word 2008 for a PC is that, under referencing, it has its own equivalent of Endnote. It&#8217;s not quite as good but seems, from first inspection, to work okish.</p>

	<p>Everything else is evil though.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internet archive&#039;s solution to the line break problem is pretty much &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#171&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the same as yours&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The internet archive&#8217;s solution to the line break problem is pretty much <a href="http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#171" rel="nofollow">the same as yours</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235586</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still using Endnote? Zotero, dammit, Zotero! (Though the Word plugin probably won&#039;t work for you now...)

http://www.zotero.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Still using Endnote? Zotero, dammit, Zotero! (Though the Word plugin probably won&#8217;t work for you now&#8230;)</p>

	<p><a href="http://www.zotero.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zotero.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SamChevre</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235584</link>
		<dc:creator>SamChevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the fairly simple fix I use, copy into TextPad (trial version is free), and save--then open with Word.  TextPad lets you choose encoding type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For the fairly simple fix I use, copy into TextPad (trial version is free), and save&#8212;then open with Word.  TextPad lets you choose encoding type.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As this very blog wisely counseled, &lt;a href=&quot;http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/04/dont-upgrade/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;don&#039;t upgrade&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As this very blog wisely counseled, <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2004/06/04/dont-upgrade/" rel="nofollow">don&#8217;t upgrade</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Zippy the Comment Frog</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235582</link>
		<dc:creator>Zippy the Comment Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I normally search and replace for a space followed by a paragraph break, which avoids removing the second one in a double line break.  That does not necessarily save a step, however, because then I run a search and replace for two spaces in a row -- sometimes there are none, but often there are at least a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I normally search and replace for a space followed by a paragraph break, which avoids removing the second one in a double line break.  That does not necessarily save a step, however, because then I run a search and replace for two spaces in a row&#8212;sometimes there are none, but often there are at least a few.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rynne</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235573</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, MS-Office 2008 for mac is a piece of crap. Fortunately I kept the previous version on hand. Ms Word I have renamed &quot;Kenny&quot;, because it dies in every episode (cf. South Park).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, MS-Office 2008 for mac is a piece of crap. Fortunately I kept the previous version on hand. Ms Word I have renamed &#8220;Kenny&#8221;, because it dies in every episode (cf. South Park).</p>
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		<title>By: Timon</title>
		<link>http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/10/stupid-stupid-upgrade-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-235572</link>
		<dc:creator>Timon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for \r\n read \\r\\n, they were interpreted by the comment parser as escapes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>for rn read \r\n, they were interpreted by the comment parser as escapes</p>
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