Comments on: Wingnut Talking Point Bingo

By: Roy Belmont

Roy Belmont — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:51:54 +0000

It’s pretty naive to think a political gamesman like Stephanopolous would turn into a little bag of corn syrup on his own dime, just because it felt good.
We’re viewing close at hand the manipulative strength of the most powerful and sophisticated, and organized, whatever that ever was.
Pretending still, after all the evidence that’s available, that Iraq and the last two elections were some kind of massive incompetence on the part of people who should know better is probably comforting to those who can still do it, but it’s whack.
This was an intentional move, to create a desired climate of soft absurdity around the candidates in the minds of the mass audience.

“…we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out.”

Remember those guys? They’re still there.

By: LC

LC — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:20:13 +0000

abb1 @ 57: thanks for the translation.

By: Jim Johnson

Jim Johnson — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:31:18 +0000

Pardon the bad Ricky Ricardo impersonation; should’ve been “seem to think”

By: Jim Johnson

Jim Johnson — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:26:56 +0000

I agree with Henry’ WTF. And I found Don’s (#10) fictional universe intriguing. In our real universe, though, there are the folks over at Michelle Malkin (and, I am sure, many other elsewheres)who thought the behavior of the panel was just swell. Of course the press are idiots. That is depressing enough. But many, many people seem to thin that is just fine. That is REALLY depressing!

By: Markup

Markup — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:07:57 +0000

‘’This thread is over, but (via TPM) this McClatchy article on the voter who asked the “flag” question is worth a read.’’

Seems she’s bitter about being left out in the list of being bitter and clinging to G_d and guns. Quite the tough life she’s had, and understandably similar to Hilary’s struggles…

By: abb1

abb1 — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:48:57 +0000

Looks to me like devoweled “I’m sick of all you”.

By: LC

LC — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:33:12 +0000

re 54: i have no idea what “m s sck f ll y” means. i assume it is something that can’t be spelled out in polite company.

By: JP Stormcrow

JP Stormcrow — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:23:05 +0000

This thread is over, but (via TPM) this McClatchy article on the voter who asked the “flag” question is worth a read. (She had previously been quoted in a NYTimes article.)

By: abb1

abb1 — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:29:00 +0000

‘Fairness’ is meaningless now because most of the wingnut dogmas (and their perverse logic) is the common wisdom these days.

And that includes the liberals, of course. “‘m s sck f ll y nlghtnd mthrfckrs” is a bit too strong to my taste, but it’s easy to understand how one might feel that way.

By: LC

LC — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:30:05 +0000

I was opposed to the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine when it occurred under Reagan. That said, I agree that trying to revive it is basically a waste of time. It was vaguely worded, never that effective, and its largest positive impacts probably had to do with broadcast coverage of local issues, not national (or global). The language in the federal Communications Act saying that broadcasters have to serve “the public interest, convenience, and necessity” has not meant very much for a long time—and that trend predates the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine.

By: Markup

Markup — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:23:23 +0000

‘’more and better Democrats in Congress is a great place to at least start.’’

No doubt, and a few more good ones on the other side would be nice too. I don’t give a rat’s dropping what party they are in the aquisition and abuse of power, like your wannbe majic powers, are learned. The is much to be said of big Gov being the/a problem, just like those of both parties have a strong (learned ?) disposition to abuse their privilege when getting in the high chair – no, not all, but enough to keep the game from really moving. Sorry you missed the train, perhaps in a few decades we’ll have a meaningful system of mass transit… fueled by some Harkin for change ethanol of course.

By: Crystal

Crystal — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:34:46 +0000

@47: Who can forget the big-wig Dem donors threatening to whack Nancy Pelosi’s kneecaps if she didn’t toe their line?

Alas, the Dems do have a $pine in place of a spine. It appears to me that one of the best things that can be done for the US political system is to get big donors and special interests out of politics. I wish that could happen. I also wish I could have gone to Hogwarts and learned to be an Animagus.

Realistically, Steve @46 is right – more and better Democrats in Congress is a great place to at least start. The internet and blogosphere really do seem to be helping that along – if for no other reason than it makes people feel like their votes and voice matter on some level.

By: Uncle Kvetch

Uncle Kvetch — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:11:42 +0000

‘m s sck f ll y nlghtnd mthrfckrs.

Thanks, Henry. You’ve made it fun to read Seth Edenbaum’s comments again.

By: Grand Moff Texan

Grand Moff Texan — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:05:53 +0000

Does the rev. Wright love America as much as me?

I dunno, ABC. For that, we’ll need a dozen virgins, a volcano, two cardamom pods, a geigercounter, and a tub of vaseline.

OK, George: bend over!
.

By: Uncle Kvetch

Uncle Kvetch — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:21:28 +0000

Someone explain to me why we shouldn’t simply “give up” on the race for national office.

I’ve asked myself the same thing, Tyro. Best answer? The Supreme Court. I’ve given up on Iraq (and foreign/military policy more generally), health care, and real campaign reform, and I have very little optimism about climate change. But the one thing I can say with certainty is that Obama’s or Clinton’s SCOTUS nominees would look nothing like McCain’s. As a gay man, that has a very direct and immediate impact on my life.

There are a hell of a lot of absolutely crucial issues where it really doesn’t matter anymore. Don’t let that obscure those crucial issues where it still does.