Comments on: All Out For May Day! http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/ Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:54:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: the Other Paul http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238586 the Other Paul Mon, 05 May 2008 04:38:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238586 Does this do it? Does this do it?

]]> By: peter ramus http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238463 peter ramus Sat, 03 May 2008 04:02:04 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238463 Unforseen preview syndrome. Sorry. Unforseen preview syndrome. Sorry.

]]> By: peter ramus http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238462 peter ramus Sat, 03 May 2008 04:01:17 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238462 <em>In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict.</em> —some random internet opinion <em>"I want freedom, the right to self-expression, everyboy's right to beautiful, radiant things." Anarchism meant that to me, and I would live it in spite of the whole world — prisons, persecution, everything. Yes, even in spite of the condemnation of my own comrades I would live my beautiful ideal.</em> — Emma Goldman In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict.
—some random internet opinion

“I want freedom, the right to self-expression, everyboy’s right to beautiful, radiant things.” Anarchism meant that to me, and I would live it in spite of the whole world — prisons, persecution, everything. Yes, even in spite of the condemnation of my own comrades I would live my beautiful ideal.
— Emma Goldman

]]> By: peter ramus http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238461 peter ramus Sat, 03 May 2008 04:00:13 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238461 <em>In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict.</em> —some random internet opinion <em."I want freedom, the right to self-expression, everyboy's right to beautiful, radiant things." Anarchism meant that to me, and I would live it in spite of the whole world — prisons, persecution, everything. Yes, even in spite of the condemnation of my own comrades I would live my beautiful ideal. — Emma Goldman In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict.
—some random internet opinion

— Emma Goldman

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238407 abb1 Fri, 02 May 2008 19:07:15 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238407 It's just not the right time for anarchy yet. Evolution, experimentation, trial and error - this is how it happens. Anabaptim, Kibbutzim, Jura federation, Makhno, Catalonia; stay tuned. It’s just not the right time for anarchy yet. Evolution, experimentation, trial and error – this is how it happens. Anabaptim, Kibbutzim, Jura federation, Makhno, Catalonia; stay tuned.

]]> By: salient downs http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238404 salient downs Fri, 02 May 2008 18:48:27 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238404 <i>Now, tell me: why should a decent bourgeois teenager still want to become an anarchist?</i> Because it justifies stealing clothes from Hot Topic. Now, tell me: why should a decent bourgeois teenager still want to become an anarchist?

Because it justifies stealing clothes from Hot Topic.

]]> By: salient downs http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238403 salient downs Fri, 02 May 2008 18:40:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238403 <i>If anarchism hasn’t produced the perfect revolution yet, do you think it might have something to do with the relentless campaign of murders, tortures, imprisonments and harassment that the bosses have been waging against us this last century and a half?</i> No, I don't. Let me be pre-emptive and say: in this statement, I'm not 'condoning' or 'refusing to acknowledge' those murders, tortures, imprisonments and/or incidents of harassment. At its best, anarchy is to revolution/reform what household bleach is to dishwasher fluid: an inherently and indiscriminately destructive component, with the capacity to disinfect or to tarnish depending upon the circumstances under which it is employed, and with utility directly proportional to the severity of the task. In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict. Either way, I don't think that anarchy unattended-to by Teh Man would result in any form of revolution, perfect or imperfect - a redistribution of power, perhaps, but not one that would be substantially more egalitarian. If anarchism hasn’t produced the perfect revolution yet, do you think it might have something to do with the relentless campaign of murders, tortures, imprisonments and harassment that the bosses have been waging against us this last century and a half?

No, I don’t. Let me be pre-emptive and say: in this statement, I’m not ‘condoning’ or ‘refusing to acknowledge’ those murders, tortures, imprisonments and/or incidents of harassment.

At its best, anarchy is to revolution/reform what household bleach is to dishwasher fluid: an inherently and indiscriminately destructive component, with the capacity to disinfect or to tarnish depending upon the circumstances under which it is employed, and with utility directly proportional to the severity of the task.

In its worst, anarchy is bestial anger with nihilistic veneer, fueling inconsequential confrontation rather than purposeful conflict.

Either way, I don’t think that anarchy unattended-to by Teh Man would result in any form of revolution, perfect or imperfect – a redistribution of power, perhaps, but not one that would be substantially more egalitarian.

]]> By: Michael Pugliese http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238381 Michael Pugliese Fri, 02 May 2008 15:16:25 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238381 >...Turnout was even less impressive in the nation's capital. About a dozen people began protesting outside of the Republican national headquarters Thursday afternoon and later moved to the Democratic national headquarters. Another 60 people gathered about noon by the U.S. Capitol's Reflecting Pool where, in the rain, some finished writing protest signs. A group of American Indians joined the demons tration, saying they are often mistaken for illegal immigrants. Via ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:08 AM Subject: [debsian] Protesters across America call for immigration reform To: Debsian >...Watch the CNN Videos at this link - http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/01/immigration.protests/index.html?iref=hpmostpop# \cnnSTCVideo ----------------------------------------------------- CNN.com >…Turnout was even less impressive in the nation’s capital. About a
dozen people began protesting outside of the Republican national
headquarters Thursday afternoon and later moved to the Democratic
national headquarters.

Another 60 people gathered about noon by the U.S. Capitol’s Reflecting
Pool where, in the rain, some finished writing protest signs. A group
of American Indians joined the demons tration, saying they are often
mistaken for illegal immigrants.
Via—————Forwarded message—————From:
Date: Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:08 AM
Subject: [debsian] Protesters across America call for immigration reform
To: Debsian
>…Watch the CNN Videos at this link –
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/01/immigration.protests/index.html?iref=hpmostpop#
cnnSTCVideo
——————————————————————————-

CNN.com

]]> By: bernarda http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238356 bernarda Fri, 02 May 2008 12:41:17 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238356 Like George Orwell, many Americans fought in the Spanish Civil in the International Brigades. For the Americans it was the Abraham Lincoln Brigade. San Francisco(of course)dedicated a monument to them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWmWEJKshbA There is a documentary about them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1uvodA1t0&feature=related Like George Orwell, many Americans fought in the Spanish Civil in the International Brigades. For the Americans it was the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

San Francisco(of course)dedicated a monument to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWmWEJKshbA

There is a documentary about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1uvodA1t0&feature=related

]]> By: Great Zamfir http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238355 Great Zamfir Fri, 02 May 2008 12:32:36 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238355 They're dead. They’re dead.

]]> By: bernarda http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238351 bernarda Fri, 02 May 2008 12:05:32 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238351 What makes some of you think that anarchists don't think about the future? Kropotkin seemed to. The CNT during the Spanish Civil War thought about it. http://tinyurl.com/5tss9d The IWW in the U.S. certainly thought about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5oK82AB0Y What makes some of you think that anarchists don’t think about the future? Kropotkin seemed to. The CNT during the Spanish Civil War thought about it.

http://tinyurl.com/5tss9d

The IWW in the U.S. certainly thought about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5oK82AB0Y

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238276 virgil xenophon Thu, 01 May 2008 18:14:20 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238276 Jacob. White or black tie? I don't want to be out of step--especially on day like this--just a warm-up for Derby Day and millionaires row at Churchill. Jacob. White or black tie? I don’t want to be out
of step—especially on day like this—just a warm-up
for Derby Day and millionaires row at Churchill.

]]> By: Jacob Christensen http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238273 Jacob Christensen Thu, 01 May 2008 17:09:52 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238273 @abb1: Speaking of which - Swedish TV celebrates May Day by screening... ...wait for it!... ... The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie! (drum-roll) Time to get dressed for dinner. @abb1: Speaking of which – Swedish TV celebrates May Day by screening…

…wait for it!…

… The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie! (drum-roll)

Time to get dressed for dinner.

]]> By: abb1 http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238271 abb1 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:47:53 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238271 Toothpaste is such a bourgeois concept, dude. Toothpaste is such a bourgeois concept, dude.

]]> By: Jacob Christensen http://crookedtimber.org/2008/04/30/all-out-for-may-day/comment-page-1/#comment-238270 Jacob Christensen Thu, 01 May 2008 16:35:31 +0000 http://crookedtimber.org/?p=6881#comment-238270 I'll just note that my local Co-op supermarket was open for business today. Great - I was out of toothpaste. I’ll just note that my local Co-op supermarket was open for business today. Great – I was out of toothpaste.

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